Disneyfalcon
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I figured that's what you were referencing.That's a great line in a great movie.
Agreed!
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Will Carnival Cruise Incident Affect Disney Cruise Line?
- Thread starter Hedwig's Keeper
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Agreed!
RandomPrincess
Keep Moving Forward
We are still planning on taking a cruise with Disney in 2015. We would never have considered Carnival anyway, just doesn't seem to be our style.
Isn't this the 3rd Carnival ship or Carnival affiliate ship to have major problems in the last 3 years? That says more to me than anything else. Why aren't other cruise lines having major problems?
Isn't this the 3rd Carnival ship or Carnival affiliate ship to have major problems in the last 3 years? That says more to me than anything else. Why aren't other cruise lines having major problems?
flynnibus
Premium Member
Oops.
I'm sure some people did feel like they were in danger. Even in grave danger.
Yes, add that on top of incomplete information and people act like it was armageddon. My biggest peeve is when people see a situation.. and just assume that means EVERYWHERE was like that.. when it was not.
I feel for them too - but I'm not about to give them a purple heart for surviving it
Many people have gone through much worse without playing themselves off as huge victims. It's like after the flooding in NY.. when some lady was screaming her head off because 'people are dying! we've been without power for 3 days!!!'. 3 days... sure it sucks but in the grand scheme of things.. that's nothing. Even your hurricane experiences sweatpea have been much worse. These people dodged a bullet with a potential for a major disaster and while their voyage 'stunk' (pun intended).. people need some perspective before they tell us how they bared survived..
flynnibus
Premium Member
The same could have been said of Disney after it had a slew of employee deaths and transportation problems within a short period. Sometimes things can happen in a cluster purely out of randomness. We have to wait to see if there is something connecting these events or what lead up to them.
lego606
MagicBandit
Yes, add that on top of incomplete information and people act like it was armageddon. My biggest peeve is when people see a situation.. and just assume that means EVERYWHERE was like that.. when it was not.
I feel for them too - but I'm not about to give them a purple heart for surviving it
These people dodged a bullet with a potential for a major disaster and while their voyage 'stunk' (pun intended).. people need some perspective before they tell us how they bared survived..
At least they had a poop-deck to sleep on.
RandomPrincess
Keep Moving Forward
True.
Looks like a fuel leak was to blame for the fire.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2013/02/18/carnival-triumph-fire-cause/1928695/
Disneyfalcon
Well-Known Member
They have not.
rufio
Well-Known Member
About the worst catastrophe that I can remember on a Disney cruise was when they ran out of liquor on one of their first cruises in 90's
Disneyfalcon
Well-Known Member
I think it was actually when they ran out of Mickey bars about two years ago! The insanity!!
sweetpee_1993
Well-Known Member
I believe there was a fire in one of the stacks once. Think it was the Magjc. Tracey found info on it somewhere. He showed me pics of the pool below closed and some cleanup or repair going on. The funnel surface was warped, I think. I was in the middle of doing like 4 things when he was trying to show me so I wasn't fully paying attention.
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Cruise Critic had an article about it in March 2002. Fire occured at 4:30 a.m. Here's pics from another source:
http://www.angelfire.com/my/disneycruiser/fire.htm
Looks like the only inconvenience to passengers was the shuffling of pools.
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Cruise Critic had an article about it in March 2002. Fire occured at 4:30 a.m. Here's pics from another source:
http://www.angelfire.com/my/disneycruiser/fire.htm
Looks like the only inconvenience to passengers was the shuffling of pools.
sweetpee_1993
Well-Known Member
Also, part of the great Carnival debate is their maintenance. Apparently they'd been having other mechanical issues that had caused delays in the cruises before the last ill-fated Triumph sailing (not necessarily related to whatever caused the fire).
I'd like to share a little tid-bit about our last Disney Magic cruise (last month) that I didn't incorporate into my TR because I didn't think it was pertinant at the time. When we left Castaway Cay we pretty much pulled out and cranked it on out of there. We thought they seemed in a might-fine hurry considering we were spending the next day at-sea just to sail from CC to Key West. It's not that far. Talked to an officer who told us there's a channel thru some reefs they like to carry power to get thru when leaving so the currents don't push them to where they don't want to be. Understandable. We were cool with that. But then we noted how we spent quite a bit of time after shooting out just drifting. I'd say it was a few hours. We kept noting the bridge report channel and how we literally were only drifting. We could tell we were not steaming...just sorta hanging out there. We mentioned how odd it was to just be sorta sitting there drifting for hours after the big hurry to leave CC. Another CM, one with a lot of tidbits of info for us, mentioned that they currently had 1 engine that the crew had been working on for our entire sailing. In fact, I believe he said it was being rebuilt. He thought maybe the "dead" time was them prepping to bring that engine back up or something. I'm not sure exactly...I know we did some drinking so it could be a little fuzzy. I didn't even remember any of that until after the Triumph thing and Tracey brought it back up.
But just to contrast for you, the Carnival Triumph had been having other mechanical issues in the sailings prior to the ill-fated one. We didn't have any mechanical issues other than that bit of time when we were perplexed as to why we were drifting and had a CM mention an engine rebuild. There's never a time during daylight hours we didn't see a crew of guys cleaning, painting, or maintaining the ship's exterior. Also during our Key West day we know the interior crews were steam cleaning carpeting. Seems to me the maintenance on the Disney Magic, the oldest ship in Disney's fleet & I believe about the same age as the Carnival Triumph, is taken quite seriously. I won't say what happened on the Triumph could never happen on a Disney ship. From MY experience and what I have seen, Disney Cruise Line keeps their ships..well..ship shape!
I'd like to share a little tid-bit about our last Disney Magic cruise (last month) that I didn't incorporate into my TR because I didn't think it was pertinant at the time. When we left Castaway Cay we pretty much pulled out and cranked it on out of there. We thought they seemed in a might-fine hurry considering we were spending the next day at-sea just to sail from CC to Key West. It's not that far. Talked to an officer who told us there's a channel thru some reefs they like to carry power to get thru when leaving so the currents don't push them to where they don't want to be. Understandable. We were cool with that. But then we noted how we spent quite a bit of time after shooting out just drifting. I'd say it was a few hours. We kept noting the bridge report channel and how we literally were only drifting. We could tell we were not steaming...just sorta hanging out there. We mentioned how odd it was to just be sorta sitting there drifting for hours after the big hurry to leave CC. Another CM, one with a lot of tidbits of info for us, mentioned that they currently had 1 engine that the crew had been working on for our entire sailing. In fact, I believe he said it was being rebuilt. He thought maybe the "dead" time was them prepping to bring that engine back up or something. I'm not sure exactly...I know we did some drinking so it could be a little fuzzy. I didn't even remember any of that until after the Triumph thing and Tracey brought it back up.
But just to contrast for you, the Carnival Triumph had been having other mechanical issues in the sailings prior to the ill-fated one. We didn't have any mechanical issues other than that bit of time when we were perplexed as to why we were drifting and had a CM mention an engine rebuild. There's never a time during daylight hours we didn't see a crew of guys cleaning, painting, or maintaining the ship's exterior. Also during our Key West day we know the interior crews were steam cleaning carpeting. Seems to me the maintenance on the Disney Magic, the oldest ship in Disney's fleet & I believe about the same age as the Carnival Triumph, is taken quite seriously. I won't say what happened on the Triumph could never happen on a Disney ship. From MY experience and what I have seen, Disney Cruise Line keeps their ships..well..ship shape!
tracyandalex
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One of the big reasons I feel better about DCL than Carnival is because it seems to me that DCL has more to lose than Carnival if something bad were to happen. The Disney name and the fact that DCL is generally held to a higher standard than Carnival. I feel like Disney knows it would be much more damaging to them to other lines (not just Carnival).
Also, I was very happy to see that both the Mickey Bar and alcohol disasters were taken care of before our cruise!!
Does teh shutting down of the Mickey pool every day for "special cleaning" count as an on going disaster?
Also, I was very happy to see that both the Mickey Bar and alcohol disasters were taken care of before our cruise!!
Does teh shutting down of the Mickey pool every day for "special cleaning" count as an on going disaster?
Disneyfalcon
Well-Known Member
Oh good point. That is kind of tragic.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
How many people know that Disney killed two guests at Disneyland?
bsiev1977
Well-Known Member
Well said. You think people who suffered through an ordeal like that would blame the crew, be it fair or not to do so. But like you said, I haven't seen any reports of people saying anything other than how fantastic the crew was. Many people realized that the crew suffered more than they did, crew quarters being lower down in the ship.
wdwstateofmind
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Disney Cruise line has a different consumer group than Carnival cruises (they mostly market to different crowds as well)...so in short, not at all...
ChuckElias
Well-Known Member
After they were waterboarded in the secret jail under Disneyland?