Why not just park for free?

Should non resort guests use the buses?


  • Total voters
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unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
What if someone gave you a free ticket into the park and you had no money on you because you lost your last job and your wife kicked you out the house for cheating on her and you were about to climb on top of the monorail line and jump because your world had no more meaning and now all of a sudden you can go to the happiest place on earth and forget about your problems?

:lookaroun


I say we quit answering this guys polls..:D

Perhaps he should play a Country/Western song backwards, so that he can get his car back, his wife back, his job back...
 

mousermerf

Account Suspended
Wow.. craziness..

1) Parking is ridiculously priced. Did you know they try to make APs pay for parking during hard ticket events?

2) The parking people often aren't doing their job and directing you to spaces. If it's a free-for-all why would anyone need to pay? They dont charge after a certain hour at night, so it's not covering some wear/tear cost.

3) I often park my car and then ride Disney transport to my next destination, knowing i'll return to where i parked it at the end of the night. Can't say people are being lazy/stupid/cheap for doing that. Just planning ahead.

4) I never pay for parking. I wont, it's stupid, i'm still mad Universal charged me for it when i went in with my AP voucher (I knew it before arriving and sucked it up). Paying to park at a theme park is a joke.
 

SweetMagic

Oh Meyla Weyla
4) I never pay for parking. I wont, it's stupid, i'm still mad Universal charged me for it when i went in with my AP voucher (I knew it before arriving and sucked it up). Paying to park at a theme park is a joke.

That's kinda rude, they had to suck the last 11 bucks (or whatever they charge) out of you before you got your "real" pass? :rolleyes:
 

Jimmy Thick

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
By the way, do you think of these questions just to get people fired up?

Of course not. I just ask interesting questions with no real answers, or questions that require debate.

How people choose to answer them is what a discussion forum is all about.
 

maggiegrace1

Well-Known Member
Then that person's car has probably either been repossessed for inability to make his next payment, or his wife took the car, or he doesn't have money to pay for gas to drive the car there. So he's either walked or hitch-hiked there, in which case he's not gonna be arguing that he must take the bus due to inability to afford to pay 10 bucks for parking. He's gonna have to take the bus or walk, since he ain't got no wheels of his own. :D:ROFLOL:
Umm He stole the car from the nice guy who gave him the free ticket..:(
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
1) Parking is ridiculously priced. Did you know they try to make APs pay for parking during hard ticket events?

And rightfully so. Their parks, their rules. And they don't try to make, they do make :)

Bear in mind that your AP does not include admission to hard ticket events. Those are separate, and thus parking benefits do not apply for these.

Lastly, the parking is not ridiculously priced. Try parking for a day in any major US city for the same price a day at WDW costs, with the same in/out privileges that WDW has. You won't find it.

But maybe if you're complaining about the price of something, then maybe regular WDW visits should be budgeted for.

2) The parking people often aren't doing their job and directing you to spaces. If it's a free-for-all why would anyone need to pay? They dont charge after a certain hour at night, so it's not covering some wear/tear cost.

It's covering their "we're a business, and all businesses exist solely to make money" costs. Nothing more, nothing less.

3) I often park my car and then ride Disney transport to my next destination, knowing i'll return to where i parked it at the end of the night. Can't say people are being lazy/stupid/cheap for doing that. Just planning ahead.

And I agree wholeheartedly with this.

4) I never pay for parking. I wont, it's stupid, i'm still mad Universal charged me for it when i went in with my AP voucher (I knew it before arriving and sucked it up). Paying to park at a theme park is a joke.

Is it stupid for a business to make money? I feel that it's not. Again, it's their property, so their rules. If you have a problem, be vocal with your wallet and not the internet (like I was when the DDE changed its terms to include forced tipping). Or fight the small fight by making it inconvenient for the place to take your money (bring pennies, bring a credit card to pay for parking, etc)
 

PigletIsMyCat

Well-Known Member
I'm in a terribly good mood, and thus feel the need to respond to numerous points made in the past six pages.

1) As someone stated, there are parking garages/lots in New York City that charge waaaaaaaaaaaaay more than Disney.

2) I am an AP holder, and I was not required to pay to park at any of the hard ticketed events that I recently attended.

3) Disney buses are available to all ticketed guests, whether or not they're staying in a resort. While the Disney website now considers buses part of the benefits of staying in a resort (http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/wd...=BenefitComplimentaryTransportationDetailPage), it is also listed on the Transportation FAQ (http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/wdw/common/helpFAQ?id=HelpFAQTransportationPage) allll the way down towards the bottom, but it's listed in a very public way, if you get my meaning: it says nothing about needing to be a resort guest.

It also states that parking is available for a price, but is free for resort guests. So, if buses were not for the regular ticketed day guest, I feel like the website would have pointed it out the same way it does about parking.

4) While hard to enforce at DTD, you cannot park in any resort parking lot and take the monorail/bus to a park. During busier times of year, you are given a tag to put in your windshield stating how long you can park in a lot. If you have no reason to be there (we're here to drink or shop or look around) you get a 3 hour parking pass. If you have ADRs, you get a 6 hour parking pass. THIS IS ENFORCED - I have seen two trucks hooking up cars in parking lots, and the only people there were the tow truck driver and Disney security - no guests.

Bottom line on this argument: If you park legally at a park, and are a ticketed guest, you can park hop on the buses and monorails to your heart's content. If you are not a ticketed, legally parking guest, don't clog up the other parking lots (DTD, self-park at GF, any other resort lot) because you screw it up for everyone else.

Just because one can 'get away' with something doesn't make it right. Rules are there for a reason: suck it up and follow them.
 

maggiegrace1

Well-Known Member
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4) While hard to enforce at DTD, you cannot park in any resort parking lot and take the monorail/bus to a park. During busier times of year, you are given a tag to put in your windshield stating how long you can park in a lot. If you have no reason to be there (we're here to drink or shop or look around) you get a 3 hour parking pass. If you have ADRs, you get a 6 hour parking pass. THIS IS ENFORCED - I have seen two trucks hooking up cars in parking lots, and the only people there were the tow truck driver and Disney security - no guests.
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Not completely and not all the time....

:lookaroun
 

scottnj1966

Well-Known Member
My pass includes parking but that is not the point parking somewhere else.

I cannot stand parking in the theme park areas. I know its not anyones fault, many new people, but when your ready to go home you dont want to be behind thousands of people that are already lost.

My dining pass includes valet parking now so I can go anywhere to eat and park with no problem. Of course I am paying a premium but it is so worth it.

I also go to the parks many, mant times a year.
 

wvdisneyfamily

Well-Known Member
Not to be rude but I think your point is not about day guests using WDW transportation (which of course they are allowed to do) but rather about guests parking at Downtown Disney to avoid the parking fee at the parks. For me if someone would rather spend 20 min waiting at DTD for a bus, then take a 10 min ride to a resort, then wait another 20 min at the resort for a bus to the correct park, then take a 20 min ride to the park, THEN do it all again on the way home just to save $11, I say go for it.
Good point. That's sad that someone would do all of that to avoid an $11 fee. Somethings in life are more important than saving a dollar.
 

SweetMagic

Oh Meyla Weyla
Not completely and not all the time....

:lookaroun

Yeah I agree. I have eaten at various resorts dozens of times and have never been given anything that states how long I can stay parked in their lot, nor have I been told that there is a time limit. Not one time. So it may be that it is a practice reserved for extremely busy times when the resorts are very booked :shrug:
 

mousermerf

Account Suspended
I'm in a terribly good mood, and thus feel the need to respond to numerous points made in the past six pages.

1) As someone stated, there are parking garages/lots in New York City that charge waaaaaaaaaaaaay more than Disney.

2) I am an AP holder, and I was not required to pay to park at any of the hard ticketed events that I recently attended.

3) Disney buses are available to all ticketed guests, whether or not they're staying in a resort. While the Disney website now considers buses part of the benefits of staying in a resort (http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/wd...=BenefitComplimentaryTransportationDetailPage), it is also listed on the Transportation FAQ (http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/wdw/common/helpFAQ?id=HelpFAQTransportationPage) allll the way down towards the bottom, but it's listed in a very public way, if you get my meaning: it says nothing about needing to be a resort guest.

It also states that parking is available for a price, but is free for resort guests. So, if buses were not for the regular ticketed day guest, I feel like the website would have pointed it out the same way it does about parking.

4) While hard to enforce at DTD, you cannot park in any resort parking lot and take the monorail/bus to a park. During busier times of year, you are given a tag to put in your windshield stating how long you can park in a lot. If you have no reason to be there (we're here to drink or shop or look around) you get a 3 hour parking pass. If you have ADRs, you get a 6 hour parking pass. THIS IS ENFORCED - I have seen two trucks hooking up cars in parking lots, and the only people there were the tow truck driver and Disney security - no guests.

Bottom line on this argument: If you park legally at a park, and are a ticketed guest, you can park hop on the buses and monorails to your heart's content. If you are not a ticketed, legally parking guest, don't clog up the other parking lots (DTD, self-park at GF, any other resort lot) because you screw it up for everyone else.

Just because one can 'get away' with something doesn't make it right. Rules are there for a reason: suck it up and follow them.

Let you in on a secret - someone at one of the monorail resorts drives the same distinct car I do, and that person is high enough up in the company that when the guards see the car, they wave them through and open the gate without a second thought. I discovered this entirely by accident once, and then parking next to my identical car and seeing who got into it later.

So, the guards aren't always really paying attention - and my little car gets waved through.
 

maryszhi

Well-Known Member
notice how disney is top of the charts then univeral in the surveys???? thats cause disney treats everybody equal, minus the few privilages being an ap memeber, dvc member, staying on property,exc. Also universal charges u for everything, things u can do for free no matter what at disney
 

PigletIsMyCat

Well-Known Member
Let you in on a secret - someone at one of the monorail resorts drives the same distinct car I do, and that person is high enough up in the company that when the guards see the car, they wave them through and open the gate without a second thought. I discovered this entirely by accident once, and then parking next to my identical car and seeing who got into it later.

So, the guards aren't always really paying attention - and my little car gets waved through.

Merf, they are paying attention. You're that important :kiss:
 

mousermerf

Account Suspended
Merf, they are paying attention. You're that important :kiss:

Piglet, has there been some sort of overhaul in parking resort wide?

Last month they started checking the date on my AP, but i figured it was jsut for the holidays, but they still did it early January too.

Maybe the other shoe finally dropped?
 

PigletIsMyCat

Well-Known Member
Piglet, has there been some sort of overhaul in parking resort wide?

Last month they started checking the date on my AP, but i figured it was jsut for the holidays, but they still did it early January too.

Maybe the other shoe finally dropped?

Last Wednesday, no one checked the date. Monday, no one checked the date. Yesterday, the parking guy nearly ripped my AP out of my hand to check the date.

So, I'm guessing yes, it has dropped. And I'm expecting those 3 and 6 hour parking passes to become more common as well. I didn't get one on Monday at the Contemporary, but I did the week before Christmas while parking at GF, Poly, Boardwalk to see the decorations.
 

WDW FAN 4 LIFE

New Member
If people drive to DTD with the intention of spending $$$ AT DTD, and they can't find a parking spot because the lot's full, and they have to leave, then anyone who parked at DTD to shuttle to a park via resort buses effed those people over, as well as the shops, restaurants & other vendors who lost money because those potential shoppers couldn't park.

I'm of the opinion DTD should charge for parking, with the more modern meters that provide a receipt you have to leave in your car that shows the expiration time, with a 6-hour maximum window, $500 fine and/or towage if you're caught with an expired receipt .

The 6-hour window is enough time for most people to shop & eat or see Cirque (and, of course, they can always return to the lot to pay for more time). But it will discourage a lot of people from parking at DTD to avoid theme park lot fees. (Free parking for resort guests, ala every other Disney lot.)

But to compensate most Disney guests, your DTD lot receipt could be used the moment it expires (with a 30 day window) as a sort of gift card in any DTD or resort shop or restaurant. This, in effect makes the parking free for just about everyone. The lone exception would be people spending their last moments at WDW in DTD before heading for home (hey no system is perfect, and since it's all just me spitballing anyway, maybe people can mail parking receipts in when they get home in exchange for Disney dollars).

Well, if parking at DTD is still in effect free, what's the difference between the current situaton and my hypothetical? That 6-hour window. It's "reasonably" easy to get back to your car to leave or pay for more parking if you're at DTD. But if you parked there for free while shuttling to a theme park, you're relying on the schedule of Disney's transportation to get you back in time. Depending on the park you visit, it might take you an hour to get to a park and an hour to get back. Suddenly your 6 hour window shrinks to 4 hours. If you intended to get to a theme park early, before it opens, your window of actual them park family fun time shrinks even more. Some people might like the pressure, during vacation, of checking their watch & sweating bullets, having to forsake long lines or long attractions, or avoiding a parade to wait for a bus to hopefully get them back to DTD in time. Some people, but probably, not many, especially if Disney develops a rep for REALLY enforcing the expiration time.

There's another perk: DTD should have security in parking lots anyway. Checking receipts & enforcing the time limits, while keeping the lots free of dealers thieves or gangs, helps cover the cost of hiring those security guards in the first place.

The only other additional factor I'd add to this is for the buses to deny non-resort guests use of buses - or rather, JUST the buses from DTD to a resort - until after all the parks open. Why else would someone go to DTD in the morning, before the theme parks open, besides a free-but-perhaps-lengthy shuttle to the parks? After all, if you have breakfast ADRs at a resort restaurant, you'd just drive to the resort, right? OR drive to the theme park du jour, bus from there to that resort, then bus back to the park, right? No need to park at DTD to go to a resort for breakfast if you're planning to go to a theme park afterwards, right? And if you REALLY WANTED to look around DTD for a while before breakfast, bus or ferry to a resort for breakfast and then go to a park, you still can do that, you're just paying for it, you've got 6 hours (minus the time you're waiting for the parks to open from the time you've arrived at the lot), and then you've got the receipt to use as cash afterwards.

That's my suggestion anyway, FWIW. I await the picking of nits with baited breath.
If WDW should charge anyone to park there it should be the guests who stay offsite and keeping it free for those who stay onsite. As we all know those guests who stay onsite get free parking at the 4 theme parks, so they would not need to cheat the system by parking for free at DTD and transferring to a Resort bus. If anything this would make those stop trying to cheat the system and if they still want to try this, then WDW can still make money off them.
 

PigletIsMyCat

Well-Known Member
If WDW should charge anyone to park there it should be the guests who stay offsite and keeping it free for those who stay onsite. As we all know those guests who stay onsite get free parking at the 4 theme parks, so they would not need to cheat the system by parking for free at DTD and transferring to a Resort bus. If anything this would make those stop trying to cheat the system and if they still want to try this, then WDW can still make money off them.


That would turn away all the locals and non-Disney guests that bring their money into DTD. If anything, they should only let guests on the buses with valid park tickets or room keys.
 

WDW FAN 4 LIFE

New Member
That would turn away all the locals and non-Disney guests that bring their money into DTD. If anything, they should only let guests on the buses with valid park tickets or room keys.
Well then those guests should blame it on the other guests who are being to cheap and by avoiding the parking fees and parking at DTD, when they should not do that.
 

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