Why Hollywood Studios is being rebuilt

Pixiedustmaker

Well-Known Member
One thing I never understood with the Rocket Rods change - if you couldn't bank the turns, why wouldn't you use a vehicle like those for Primeval Whirl or Goofy's Sky School. Take the turn a little faster and let the car spin. I mean I understand why they wanted to stick with the initial proposal they had already invested everything in, but I'm not sure why that thought for a replacement wasn't used after it failed.

Newton's second law. Force equals mass times acceleration. The Rocket Rods features a fast acceleration towards the entrance of Tomorrowland (and in other straight-aways), that's alot of force, and undisturbed the RR would go in a straight line (Newton's First Law) . . . and you fly off the track. RR got around it be accelerating and then slowing down quickly, so they took the curve at a slower speed. In theory, it worked for a while, but the cost of maintenance was too much. Sometimes you have to try something before you know that it doesn't work as well as you hoped.

DL already has Indy, another such ride mechanism would be derivative. Plus, Indy's "jeeps" are big and obviously "rigged" if you see them in action from outside the ride vehicle, would have look weird up there on the People Mover track . . . plus not enough room for Indy size vehicles.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
One thing I never understood with the Rocket Rods change - if you couldn't bank the turns, why wouldn't you use a vehicle like those for Primeval Whirl or Goofy's Sky School. Take the turn a little faster and let the car spin. I mean I understand why they wanted to stick with the initial proposal they had already invested everything in, but I'm not sure why that thought for a replacement wasn't used after it failed.

That won't change the fact the track needs to support the lateral acceleration forces. Even when the passengers move... The track interface doesn't .
 

steve2wdw

WDW Fan Since 1973
I'd suck all the water outta that sub lagoon and dip the track into the show building.... If the speed of any new bike style coaster is greater than that of the RR's, it would be over in the blink of an eye. Using the Nemo show building, in combination with the existing route, could add a few thousand feet of twisting, turning fun. The current indoor portions of track could be utilized for show scenes.
 

ezralou

Member
Newton's second law. Force equals mass times acceleration. The Rocket Rods features a fast acceleration towards the entrance of Tomorrowland (and in other straight-aways), that's alot of force, and undisturbed the RR would go in a straight line (Newton's First Law) . . . and you fly off the track. RR got around it be accelerating and then slowing down quickly, so they took the curve at a slower speed. In theory, it worked for a while, but the cost of maintenance was too much. Sometimes you have to try something before you know that it doesn't work as well as you hoped.
DL already has Indy, another such ride mechanism would be derivative. Plus, Indy's "jeeps" are big and obviously "rigged" if you see them in action from outside the ride vehicle, would have look weird up there on the People Mover track . . . plus not enough room for Indy size vehicles.

lets get pixiedustmaker and marni on sum of all thrills and settle this (virtually) fairly
 

doctornick

Well-Known Member
The MI coaster.... As bit of artistic licence. The suspended ride cars have door styling on them, not actually being strapped to a door.

So... have the plans for the door coaster officially been scrapped for DHS? And will Soundstage 1 just sit empty this round of expansion?

I'm still having trouble understanding why only Cars is apparently being looked at for the Pixar Place expansion... especially if they are replacing Backlot Tour, LMA and the SoA which is a very large area.
 

pheneix

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Wow... Just wow.....

Glad to see Micechat's spies are now concurring with what was passed along to me the same night TPI went live with their story. Lots of heavy emphasis on "modest" in their article.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
SoA is just...boring. I hate to say it. It made a lot of sense when it was part of the Backlot Tour, but now...not so much.

I won't be sad to see it go. Muppets, however...the least they could do is move it...not send it to yesterland!!
 

pheneix

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Why are they tearing down half of DHS for a "modest" expansion. Couldn't it be done with at least keeping SoA/Osborne lights, for example?

Streets of America are just facades. Very cheap to remove to free up real estate. Another reason why I am not overly concerned with Osborne Lights not being performed somewhere else. I could easily see them "running and gunning" that attraction HHN style where they lay out a temporary street with facades and some ODV and retail on a parking lot for 2 months and then break it all down and store it until the next season.

Osborne Lights are cheap. Facades are cheap. I'm relatively certain they will have a future at WDW.
 

Magenta Panther

Well-Known Member
Pixiedust... I think you misread it. Speeder bike coaster, as in the prop from the movies. Not the type of ride system. The Rocket Rods track and busbar is defunct anyway and needs removing whatever uses the ride path. This has been proposed for several years now.

The MI coaster.... As bit of artistic licence. The suspended ride cars have door styling on them, not actually being strapped to a door.

TLF is indeed a go for the Magic Eye in DL.


I don't get the hate for TLF. I think it's lots of fun. It's the best interactive show in WDW, with Turtle Talk a close second IMO.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Just curious, but was the WDW MK version going to replace the Peoplemover? Or some other attraction? Or build on an expansion pad?

Expansion pad plus some creative Rocket-Rod style preshow queuing. The WEDWay was safe.

So the other argument is still going this morning? Kinda funny.
 

Captain Neo

Well-Known Member
Expansion pad plus some creative Rocket-Rod style preshow queuing. The WEDWay was safe.

So the other argument is still going this morning? Kinda funny.

Oh that sounds neat so it was gonna be like a seperate track running around TL in addition to the Peoplemover?
I wish Disney did that I loved the kinetics of Disneyland's Tomorrowland when everything was operational.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Oh that sounds neat so it was gonna be like a seperate track running around TL in addition to the Peoplemover?
I wish Disney did that I loved the kinetics of Disneyland's Tomorrowland when everything was operational.
It would have been inside a new showbuilding on the parking lot south of Buzz. Entry and queue where MILF is. Exit where the M&G is at the old theatre entrance area roller shutter.
 

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