doctornick
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Attendance has been flat for a while; doesn't seem to have spurned Disney into any sort of substantial action.
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Why Hollywood Studios is being rebuilt
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Attendance has been flat for a while; doesn't seem to have spurned Disney into any sort of substantial action.
spacemt354
Chili's
Actually it's been trending upwards ever so slightly. And that's really my main point. Unless something takes a big drop or is completely flat compared to the other 3 parks slightly increasing over the next few years, you're going to keep the status quo and the process of expansion/refurb of the park will be elongated over time.
Unplugged
Well-Known Member
Ah yes, the old Chinese theme park philosopher Mr. Status Quo. I heard the Disney bean counters have him tied up in a broom closet and use his predictions for everything they do these days.
cheezbat
Well-Known Member
Everybody please stop going to DHS. I skipped it this year. If we all do it the turn style clicks will drop subststancially and maybe we'll finally see some investment back into this park.
I love Tower of Terror. I really enjoy the Indy stunt show, Star Tours and Rock N Roller coaster, but I'm not about to give Disney my money for this park. It's become a major joke and currently my least favorite park in central Florida.
We've got to take a stand...even if its hard to skip on your vacations, do it. We will all be rewarded for it down the road.
I love Tower of Terror. I really enjoy the Indy stunt show, Star Tours and Rock N Roller coaster, but I'm not about to give Disney my money for this park. It's become a major joke and currently my least favorite park in central Florida.
We've got to take a stand...even if its hard to skip on your vacations, do it. We will all be rewarded for it down the road.
AdventureHasAName
Well-Known Member
Because it is missing several attractions that made the park feel like a working studio:
Backlot Tour
Monster Sound Show
Superstar Television
The sweet-spot was Summer 1998, when you still had the Monster Sound Show and Superstar Television. By the next summer, you had lost them both, but gained the Aerosmith ride and Fantasmic. On paper, most people would say "great trade" ... but when the park stopped pretending it was a working studio, it lost 80% of its charm (99% of the rest of its charm disappeared with the BAH).
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mahnamahna101
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If 2021/2022 is the time the good stuff opens (Star Wars Land and a Pixar D/E), I definitely think at least ONE Universal Orlando park will pass DHS in attendance according to TEA numbers. Most on OU and other insiders are saying Universal Orlando's parks have already passed DHS and DAK. DHS really gets 7.5-8 million/yr, so by official TEA numbers, both UO parks are around DHS already.
By 2019, one of the two should pass DHS. Because by 2019, Indy should be gone. LMA will be gone. GMR could potentially close down for either a major upgrade or a replacement. B&TB could go down either as a cost-cutting measure or for a Moana/Tangled replacement. Same for Mermaid. Muppets might close down for an upgrade at some point - or replacement.
For 2018/2019, DHS' lineup could very well be:
- Star Tours
- Jedi Training Academy
- Frozen Sing-a-Long
- HITSK play area
- TSMM
- One Man's Dream
- Disney Junior Live on Stage
- Tangled and Moana replacements (likely cheap) for Mermaid/B&TB
- RnRC
- ToT
2015
USF - 9.1 million
IOA - 8.4 million
DHS - 9.9 million
2016
USF - 9.5 million
IOA - 9.0 million
DHS - 9.8 million
2017
USF - 10.3 million
IOA - 9.7 million
DHS - 9.7 million
2018
USF - 11.4 million (Nintendo grand opening, F&F and Fallon spillover)
IOA - 10.5 million (Avengers E-ticket?)
DHS - 9.5 million
2019
USF - 12.2 million (MoM plus Nintendo spillover)
IOA - 11.2 million (Avengers spillover plus something new for IOA)
DHS - 9.4 million (TSPL should open this year, so a mild decline)
2020
USF - 12.7 million (MoM spillover, something in the MIB/Springfield plot?)
IOA - 12.0 million (something major for IOA?)
DHS - 9.2 million (calm before the storm)
2021
USF - 13.2 million (spillover)
IOA - 12.5 million (spillover)
DHS - 10.6 million (Star Wars Land)
By 2021, it'll be too late. USF and IOA should both be either equal with or ahead of DHS. AK and Epcot aren't really achievable currently. MK is never happening.
googilycub
Active Member
Here are trailers 1, 2, and 3. George was in all of them...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sH0__SpV88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNzukD8pS_s
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
In our market we never saw those trailers - just the creepy one with the kid and the tram
Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
We only had 2 trailers and one of them had no george.
so I suppose it changes country by country, area by area?
AdventureHasAName
Well-Known Member
I think it more likely changes according to what product the trailer is attached to. People watching Nickelodeon or the Disney Channel get the kid-centric no-Clooney trailer. People watching network TV after 9 PM, on the other hand, will get Clooney-centric commercials.
The Walt Disney Company does a lot of things right. But they are the absolute worst at marketing their non-animated films; just the worst. And a good portion of the reason is that they get too cute with the micro-targeting.
Two wrongs don't make it right...
flyerjab
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Soooo, getting back to why DHS is being rebuilt/rebranded. I have been thinking about this, and in a best case scenario, let us say that DHS gets the full Star Wars, Pixar, and whatever else treatment. I know that there was some rumor not too long ago indicating that Disney was supposedly talking to some architect/designer about potential new resorts. If DHS were to ever be made into the park that it could be, is it possible that a resort could be built anywhere near that park that has some type of Hollywood theme? Has that ever been thought of as a possibility?
Bairstow
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spacemt354
Chili's
Boardwalk, Swan/Dolphin, and Yacht/Beach Club are all within walking distance of the studios.
I can't see them building another hotel in that area when so many already have an ideal location.
OvertheHorizon
Well-Known Member
I suggested previously that Disney should build a Star Wars themed hotel (in addition to what might be planned for a Star Wars Land) and place it across World Drive from DHS - then connect the hotel to that park with a People Mover. I made the point that while a Star Wars land might want to have a "Cantina" it would be better located in the lobby of a Star Wars themed hotel, which would permit late night hours versus a park that is usually closed by 9 p.m. (depending on seasons).
OvertheHorizon
Well-Known Member
I have a book about Epcot that was published in 1982. In its description of the UK pavilion it noted potential future plans for a "music hall" to be built at the rear of the pavilion. Mary Poppins is an enduring Disney legacy and would be perfect in that location.
doctornick
Well-Known Member
Or, I suppose, a Star Wars theme potentially. There's "developable" space on the other side of World Drive. I thought a great idea would be a SW hotel there (different areas themed to different worlds) which had transport/a ride (like a train or monorail) that went over World Drive and took you into DHS' Star Wars land. It could work like the monorail at DL where you can only get on at DTD with park admission.
You kind of have a "Hollywood theme" with All Star Movies. Pop Century also draws a little on that.
El Grupo
Well-Known Member
JMO, I suspect Disney will simply follow a similar plan for DHS as was used for DCA: work in the park will be done in stages over a 5 - 6 year period and new/refurbished attractions will open throughout that time. In that scenario, the largest addition (hopefully a Star Wars land) and park re-dedication would be completed at the end of the redo.
I believe Marni shared things are still moving slowly behind the scenes and Articos mentioned something about a good deal of progress should be made with Avatar over the next six months. With the MK hub work nearing completion and Disney Springs wrapping up in 2016, it sounded like more attention could be shifted in the months ahead to DHS.
There again, I may have just misinterpreted some of the insiders' comments.
I believe Marni shared things are still moving slowly behind the scenes and Articos mentioned something about a good deal of progress should be made with Avatar over the next six months. With the MK hub work nearing completion and Disney Springs wrapping up in 2016, it sounded like more attention could be shifted in the months ahead to DHS.
There again, I may have just misinterpreted some of the insiders' comments.
If SOA is really going soon, any idea why they re-did a store front to be themed to Once Upon A Time?
Magenta Panther
Well-Known Member
Everybody please stop going to DHS. I skipped it this year. If we all do it the turn style clicks will drop subststancially and maybe we'll finally see some investment back into this park.
I love Tower of Terror. I really enjoy the Indy stunt show, Star Tours and Rock N Roller coaster, but I'm not about to give Disney my money for this park. It's become a major joke and currently my least favorite park in central Florida.
We've got to take a stand...even if its hard to skip on your vacations, do it. We will all be rewarded for it down the road.
I understand and sympathize with what you're saying...but I don't know if your plan will work. I've been skipping AK for the last 5 years, and Disney still hasn't put Beastly Kingdomme in it.