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JenniferS

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@JenniferS I was intrigued by your ginger ale ham, so I did a little googling and poured ginger ale over my 6lb (~3kg) and put some brown sugar on it,and it came out probably the best Easter.ham we've ever eaten, so thanks for the inspo!!

I was disappointed that there was so little fat on my ham that I had almost nothing to score or put cloves into. But it was still.yummy.
Our ham comes from a specialty German delicatessen, pre-scored with cloves and an apricot glaze. 15.566 lbs (bone-in) … $105.

My SIL bought it for us as a thank you gift.

There was so much leftover that each of my brothers took a large portion, and I was still able to bring home 3+ pounds of pure meat.

Ski just fried some up. It smells divine.

I don’t think I shared a pic of (Wilbur) cooked.

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And my lunch today.

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Figgy1

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MinnieM123

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@JenniferS I was intrigued by your ginger ale ham, so I did a little googling and poured ginger ale over my 6lb (~3kg) and put some brown sugar on it,and it came out probably the best Easter.ham we've ever eaten, so thanks for the inspo!!

I was disappointed that there was so little fat on my ham that I had almost nothing to score or put cloves into. But it was still.yummy.
We had a ham slice that was precooked. All I had to do was open the package and put it in a frying pan for about 8 minutes to heat up. (It still took some culinary skill, as I did have to flip it over in about 4 minutes, so there's that.) :joyfull:
 

Goofyernmost

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Old or new math allows the student to better understand percentages , graphs and problem solving by self or with a team. This helps one improve understanding about personal finance. I grew up with the old math. I like to problem solve and work with teams during school and post school in the companies I've worked for. I tell some of the younger guys if you invest $400 monthly to a Vanguard index fund from age 22 to 65 , with compounding interest one's net worth at age 65 will be a cool $1M. At times the reasons come out can't do it, can t afford to, etc, etc. There are a number of ways to save $400 monthly but it takes a new mindset and sacrifice to make it happen.
Would some of those ways be not eating, living under a highway bridge or worse, not having cable? Starting up, a person might be able to put $400 per month in a retirement based investment, but only if they were single, living with their parents and taking a bus to work. When the whole idea of 401's first came out that fictitious number was $25 per month and by retirement you would have a "cool" million. However, all thing being relative, many, including myself didn't have an extra $25 to put away for use around 50 years from then. And besides, if that were truly something that was likely to happen by then it would cost $100 for a loaf of bread.

Personally all my available cash was already invested in commodities like food, shelter, clothing and transportation (i.e. everyday costs of living) It wasn't until my two children were finished with college and basically on their own was I able to even start accumulating anything to use for retirement. Now, I know that is one personal experience and there are a never ending possibilities that apply differently to every person. And maybe todays starting salaries are significantly higher, but again relativity raised its ugly head because the increased cost of everything has pretty much exceeded incomes over those years.
 

Songbird76

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Technically yes, it's common core math, but common core math isn't what people think it is. It's really not a way of teaching at all. Common core is a set of standards that students are supposed to meet before the end of each grade level. The standards do not prescribe a specific way you have to teach. They were created so that every grade level has the same expectations, regardless of where you go to school. Different states use different things, but the majority of states use something very common. There might just be a tweak in language.

I'm sorry you had that experience. There are bad apples no matter what the profession. That's inevitable. In cases like that, it's justifiable.

Teaching is a unique profession. There isn't another profession that is entrusted with your children's futures as much as educators are. I welcome support from parents. I can't do the job on my own. Kids don't just learn from me. But I also need parents to trust me that I'm doing what's right for their child. And not just me, but the school in general. I know it can be hard because those are their babies, but I have never met a teacher that doesn't go out of their way for the betterment of their students.

I think the examples that I've heard here tend to fall more in the upper grades like middle and high school. I don't have experience with that, do I can't speak specifically to that. But I know it's my job to develop a deep understanding of the foundational skills of math. I am teaching the base for everything that they will learn in their futures. I'm not saying I teach one way. That's so far from the truth of how math is taught these days, or at least how it should be taught. If a kid is struggling one way, it's okay because there are so many ways it can be done. But if they don't understand what is happening in the problem, no strategy is going to make sense. That's what I'm trying to say.
Yeah, and those few bad apples make it harder for parents to trust the good teachers. If you've had a bad experience, it's like a sunburn....you're going to be sensitive for a while. My 6th grade teacher was just all-around awful. The very first day of school, we came into the classroom and she told us to find the desk with our name on it. We're all looking, and this one boy couldn't find his desk, so he went to the teacher to ask, and she says "Oh yeah. I heard about YOU. I have a special place for you. Over there!" and she pointed to a desk all the way across the room, facing a wall, with at least 15 feet between him and the closest desk. He had some behavioral issues because he had a horrible home life. His dad was an alcoholic and abusive, his mom had been in prison for dealing drugs (she wasn't DOING drugs, but she was trying desperately to support the family while the alcoholic dad was wasting the money on booze)...it was no wonder he had issues. But she hadn't even met him and she was punishing him before he even did anything. Not to mention she did this in front of the whole class, which had to be humiliating. She was just a real piece of work. And I've had a few really bad teachers like that. And those are the ones that make it hard for the good ones.

E has one now for Biology who has no business being a teacher. They were learning about....I want to say maybe DNA Sequencing? And she didn't understand it, so she asked, and he said he didn't understand it either, and he didn't like that unit. He didn't think it was important. And yeah, they would probably get questions on their final exams for graduation, but they'd just have to miss those questions, because he didn't think it was important enough for him to figure it out to teach the kids. E went in search of videos and resources and she figured it out for herself without him, taught all her friends how to do it, and now they are prepared if they get those questions on the exams. But he's done this several times with different subjects, where he tells the kids he thinks this unit is stupid, or that unit goes too in depth and they shouldn't really have to know it, or HE doesn't know how it works either, so he's just skipping that unit. Then there was a concept that the kids were struggling with, and he chewed them out for not paying attention, because they should have known how to do it from a previous chapter! It was a chapter he had skipped because he didn't think it was important. And one day in the beginning of the year, the bell hadn't rung, and the kids were all chatting. The bell rang, and the teacher just sat there. Never got up from his desk or anything. He waited until the end of the period and then told them they had wasted his time because they never stopped chatting, and he wasn't going to talk over them, etc. He never even tried to get their attention. Just expected that they would suddenly be silent and attentive without any sign that he was about to start teaching. But there's nothing they can do, because their school is closing and the majority of teachers have already moved on to new schools, and the school isn't bothering to replace the ones who left, because the school closes after next school year. So this is the teacher they are left with for Biology. I'll be so glad when she graduates this year and is done with this school!!

That's interesting about Common Core. The way people talked about it, it sounded like a particular method, but if it's just a standard to make education consistent across the board in the US, that explains why we don't have it here. Our system over here is a lot different. We do have national standards, and they take tests a few times a year that are standardized across all of the Netherlands, but it's not used the way standardized tests are used in the US. It's just to see where the kids are and what areas they need to work on with each student, so if there are learning disabilities or whatever, they catch them sooner (hopefully). It's more to look at patterns to identify strengths and weaknesses. And then students who have consistently performed above the national average, particularly in math and reading, will be placed in a more advanced program for high school. Students who consistently perform below the national average will be placed in a more practical high school, learning a trade rather than doing more theoretical classroom learning. And then once they complete that, they can stream through to the next level if they want to, or go on to a trade school for their chosen profession.
 

Tiggerish

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We had a ham slice that was precooked. All I had to do was open the package and put it in a frying pan for about 8 minutes to heat up. (It still took some culinary skill, as I did have to flip it over in about 4 minutes, so there's that.) :joyfull:
Ha, we often have those for dinner during the year, but I was hosting dinner for 8 yesterday! Even so, the smallest ham I could find (6lbs) made plenty of leftovers, so maybe I should've just gotten four ham steaks. :cautious:
 

PUSH

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Original Poster
That's interesting about Common Core. The way people talked about it, it sounded like a particular method, but if it's just a standard to make education consistent across the board in the US, that explains why we don't have it here. Our system over here is a lot different. We do have national standards, and they take tests a few times a year that are standardized across all of the Netherlands, but it's not used the way standardized tests are used in the US. It's just to see where the kids are and what areas they need to work on with each student, so if there are learning disabilities or whatever, they catch them sooner (hopefully). It's more to look at patterns to identify strengths and weaknesses. And then students who have consistently performed above the national average, particularly in math and reading, will be placed in a more advanced program for high school. Students who consistently perform below the national average will be placed in a more practical high school, learning a trade rather than doing more theoretical classroom learning. And then once they complete that, they can stream through to the next level if they want to, or go on to a trade school for their chosen profession.
There was a lot of misinformation spread about Common Core when it first started, from people who didn't understand it. I won't say CC is perfect, it's far from it. A lot of the standards are wordy and vague and left up to interpretation. But that's because the people deciding the standards and laws for education are not educators, nor do they speak to educators.

Education is a very politicized topic in the US. In the state of Wisconsin, many districts are having to go to referendum to ask the tax payers to increase their taxes just to be able to operate. In 2010, our governor changed all the funding laws for school, so it is pretty much a consistent stream of funding each year, which means it doesn't increase. Inflation has increased a lot over the last 15 years, but the funding has remained pretty much the same. It's gotten to the point where schools don't have the money to fund staff salaries/wages, basic programs, basic maintenance, etc. Our current governor wanted to increase public school funding, but the state house and senate would not agree to it, despite our state having a $7.1 billion surplus. I forget the exact numbers, but with the surplus, the state could have funded all schools who are going to referendum and still have a surplus. But there are people who are so opposed to giving any money to public education because they want schools to be privatized.
 

ajrwdwgirl

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There was a lot of misinformation spread about Common Core when it first started, from people who didn't understand it. I won't say CC is perfect, it's far from it. A lot of the standards are wordy and vague and left up to interpretation. But that's because the people deciding the standards and laws for education are not educators, nor do they speak to educators.

Education is a very politicized topic in the US. In the state of Wisconsin, many districts are having to go to referendum to ask the tax payers to increase their taxes just to be able to operate. In 2010, our governor changed all the funding laws for school, so it is pretty much a consistent stream of funding each year, which means it doesn't increase. Inflation has increased a lot over the last 15 years, but the funding has remained pretty much the same. It's gotten to the point where schools don't have the money to fund staff salaries/wages, basic programs, basic maintenance, etc. Our current governor wanted to increase public school funding, but the state house and senate would not agree to it, despite our state having a $7.1 billion surplus. I forget the exact numbers, but with the surplus, the state could have funded all schools who are going to referendum and still have a surplus. But there are people who are so opposed to giving any money to public education because they want schools to be privatized.
Our district has a referendum on the ballot for 18 million. All of the money, if passed will go to building maintenance and some upgrades. None will go for anything for students in the classroom or salaries. Are district is selling it in terms of that it will not raise taxes, we just paid off a debt so it is just rolling over/continuing payments we were already making.

I hope it passes, we really need the upgrades. Although it will not add air conditioning in my building, might not even fix the sink in my classroom. Voting is tomorrow so I guess we will find out is it passes by Wednesday.
 

PUSH

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Our district has a referendum on the ballot for 18 million. All of the money, if passed will go to building maintenance and some upgrades. None will go for anything for students in the classroom or salaries. Are district is selling it in terms of that it will not raise taxes, we just paid off a debt so it is just rolling over/continuing payments we were already making.

I hope it passes, we really need the upgrades. Although it will not add air conditioning in my building, might not even fix the sink in my classroom. Voting is tomorrow so I guess we will find out is it passes by Wednesday.
Our district is wanting to go to one in the fall, just for operational costs. Right now we have two other referendums that the tax payers are paying for. They were both for upgrades at the high school 5-7 years ago. Our high school has gotten everything it wants, while the elementary school continually gets neglected. We did just remodel our front entrance, so it is secure and you have to go through the office to get into the school. That money was borrowed, though, not a referendum.

As it stands now, I believe our district will be starting next year with a $2.5 million deficit. The district I live in is at a $1.5 million deficit, and the referendum is not expected to pass in tomorrow's vote. Their referendum is also for operational costs. However, they just passed a referendum last spring to add a huge football field and some other things across the district. I get why this one isn't likely to pass, because they knew these budget issues were going to be coming up when they passed the referendum to build a new football field. It drives me crazy when districts put sports above academics, but it happens all the time. Sports are always more important than academics. And the high school is always the most important building. At least in my district.
 

Lilofan

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Would some of those ways be not eating, living under a highway bridge or worse, not having cable? Starting up, a person might be able to put $400 per month in a retirement based investment, but only if they were single, living with their parents and taking a bus to work. When the whole idea of 401's first came out that fictitious number was $25 per month and by retirement you would have a "cool" million. However, all thing being relative, many, including myself didn't have an extra $25 to put away for use around 50 years from then. And besides, if that were truly something that was likely to happen by then it would cost $100 for a loaf of bread.

Personally all my available cash was already invested in commodities like food, shelter, clothing and transportation (i.e. everyday costs of living) It wasn't until my two children were finished with college and basically on their own was I able to even start accumulating anything to use for retirement. Now, I know that is one personal experience and there are a never ending possibilities that apply differently to every person. And maybe todays starting salaries are significantly higher, but again relativity raised its ugly head because the increased cost of everything has pretty much exceeded incomes over those years.
Your opinion and far out scenarios to save money which I don't agree to. A number of ways some can downsize their life but choose not to. You make your bed , you better be prepared to sleep in it. Former peers went to the nearby Starbucks multiple times a day , eating out 5 lunches a week , one complained can't get ahead of endless bills but spending $40 a day on Starbucks and lunch . One can add up what he spends monthly. Just a tad more than $400. I drank the free Keurig at work and brown bagged. You should read up on FIRE ( Financially Independent Retire Early ). Its a lifestyle not for all but achievable for ones who pursue. I didn't follow the crowd in school. I was on the work study program, washed dishes mop floors in the college cafeteria while eating for free, worked every summer break winter break to earn so I could buy my first home in my mid 20s. 6% compounding interest invest $400 monthly from 20s-age 65 in a Vanguard stock index fund , its a cool $1M . No smoke and mirrors on that.
 
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ajrwdwgirl

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Our district is wanting to go to one in the fall, just for operational costs. Right now we have two other referendums that the tax payers are paying for. They were both for upgrades at the high school 5-7 years ago. Our high school has gotten everything it wants, while the elementary school continually gets neglected. We did just remodel our front entrance, so it is secure and you have to go through the office to get into the school. That money was borrowed, though, not a referendum.

As it stands now, I believe our district will be starting next year with a $2.5 million deficit. The district I live in is at a $1.5 million deficit, and the referendum is not expected to pass in tomorrow's vote. Their referendum is also for operational costs. However, they just passed a referendum last spring to add a huge football field and some other things across the district. I get why this one isn't likely to pass, because they knew these budget issues were going to be coming up when they passed the referendum to build a new football field. It drives me crazy when districts put sports above academics, but it happens all the time. Sports are always more important than academics. And the high school is always the most important building. At least in my district.

Both of our buildings are old our elementary being about 34 years and HS/Ms being 24 years old (at least in the new part, other parts were remodeled 24 years ago with our oldest in the ms/hs being from 1911). I think our district has done a good job of equally updating both.

Sports does get served though but not always with neglect to the actual academics. Our booster club is VERY active and pays for a lot of stuff. In the new referendum there is a new scoreboard and bleachers on the agenda but they are at least 24 years old at our school and purchased from a nearby university when they remodeled so they have at least a decade more on than the 24 years I’ve seen them at school. Plus our bleachers aren’t ADA compliant, so in this case I approve of all the sports related items on the work agenda. Although as a science teacher it would be nice to have a working sink in my classroom. It can’t be turned on because the valve is in an area with asbestos.
 

PUSH

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Both of our buildings are old our elementary being about 34 years and HS/Ms being 24 years old (at least in the new part, other parts were remodeled 24 years ago with our oldest in the ms/hs being from 1911). I think our district has done a good job of equally updating both.

Sports does get served though but not always with neglect to the actual academics. Our booster club is VERY active and pays for a lot of stuff. In the new referendum there is a new scoreboard and bleachers on the agenda but they are at least 24 years old at our school and purchased from a nearby university when they remodeled so they have at least a decade more on than the 24 years I’ve seen them at school. Plus our bleachers aren’t ADA compliant, so in this case I approve of all the sports related items on the work agenda. Although as a science teacher it would be nice to have a working sink in my classroom. It can’t be turned on because the valve is in an area with asbestos.
Our new incoming superintendent is our current HS principal, and he's going to be so HS focused. He told a 3rd grade teacher this year to do something during their "Lego time". When I heard that, my jaw hit the floor. He has no idea what actually takes place in an elementary school. We don't have "Lego time". He's requiring all staff to go to graduation. And there's been more. Everything is from a high school perspective, and he doesn't think about the elementary level at all.
 

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