Where in the World Isn't Bob Saget?

Goofyernmost

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I'm gonna vote in my polling place on election day.
I'll wear a mask. It'll be fine ;)
Well, like a stripper, I'm working the poles both in early voting and on November 3rd. So I didn't know when I would actually get the chance to physically vote so I did it ahead of time and let me tell you there is quite a protocol this year especially for mail in's.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
I'm in a high risk group.

Oh, I should have added to my post yesterday, no biggie. (With this particular virus, many more people are placed in high risk, due to specific particulars of the illness.) Aside of COVID-19 only, I'm not in any other high risk group - at least at the present time.

So that's the only reason why I was seriously considering mail-in voting this time.
 

Songbird76

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You should be alright once it gets here. Leadership has gone to great lengths to make sure that postal workers are determined to get the ballots to the proper placed come hell or high water. They have their livelihood hanging on the outcome of this election. What really important to get across to the public is that Mail in Ballots and Absentee Ballots are exactly the same thing and handled in the same way. There is no difference. It appears that even those that have made a point of trying to convince people of the "danger" of mail in voting are using mail in voting.
Amen to that! I've done mail in voting for the last 2 elections....I don't remember if I voted in the election before that. I don't think I did because if I remember correctly, Wyoming's law said you had to register in person, and I couldn't fly all the way there just to register to vote. But now they have the postcard application to register, so it's not as huge of an effort/explense. But I've had to argue about that with various people on the book of face that absentee voting is the same as mail in voting, and we've been doing it for decades.
But with Corona, mail is slower from here anyway, I think. So I'd rather get 'er done in advance. Actually, Wyoming has set up a secure fax line for mail in ballots, but I have NO idea where I would fax from. My husband's office doesn't have a fax line anymore. I guess there are companies that will do it, but I will have to look into that, and otherwise I'll just mail it in.
 

NYwdwfan

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I'm not looking to get political just curious as to the process. I'm hoping someone knows how the logistics work. When someone requests a mail in ballot does it somehow trigger something that prints out in that book you have to sign when you go in person so someone can't do both? If you request a mail in ballot are you then obligated to vote that way since you have been marked as voted even if you don't mail it in? What is the actual process for keeping track of all that? I never really gave it much thought.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
I'm not looking to get political just curious as to the process. I'm hoping someone knows how the logistics work. When someone requests a mail in ballot does it somehow trigger something that prints out in that book you have to sign when you go in person so someone can't do both? If you request a mail in ballot are you then obligated to vote that way since you have been marked as voted even if you don't mail it in? What is the actual process for keeping track of all that? I never really gave it much thought.
I think the process can differ from state to state so I’m not exactly sure. I do know that some states are mailing out ballots or ballot applications to everyone in their voter rolls, which is very different for most compared to previous elections. Lots of those rolls are inaccurate. Also, I expect an influx of a large amount of mail in ballots to be overwhelming for many states. We have already seen that in some elections this year. Many just don’t have a proper system to be able to handle the amount they are expecting. That is where I’m worried the most.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
I'm not looking to get political just curious as to the process. I'm hoping someone knows how the logistics work. When someone requests a mail in ballot does it somehow trigger something that prints out in that book you have to sign when you go in person so someone can't do both? If you request a mail in ballot are you then obligated to vote that way since you have been marked as voted even if you don't mail it in? What is the actual process for keeping track of all that? I never really gave it much thought.
Yes, it does! Here in NC, at least, you receive a ballot only if you are registered. Once registered you are entered into the system and as they send you the ballot it is recorded. If you were to go to the poll, in person, after that when you give your name it comes up with a large coded word that states that you have been issued a mail in. And you cannot vote in person at that time. When you send it in, they register it as already voted. That way if you decided to vote in person on the same day that you send in the ballot it will not be counted twice. There are usually a lot of people that work in the Elections office and this is their really busy time of year.
 

NYwdwfan

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I think the process can differ from state to state so I’m not exactly sure. I do know that some states are mailing out ballots or ballot applications to everyone in their voter rolls, which is very different for most compared to previous elections. Lots of those rolls are inaccurate. Also, I expect an influx of a large amount of mail in ballots to be overwhelming for many states. We have already seen that in some elections this year. Many just don’t have a proper system to be able to handle the amount they are expecting. That is where I’m worried the most.
Yes, it does! Here in NC, at least, you receive a ballot only if you are registered. Once registered you are entered into the system and as they send you the ballot it is recorded. If you were to go to the poll, in person, after that when you give your name it comes up with a large coded word that states that you have been issued a mail in. And you cannot vote in person at that time. When you send it in, they register it as already voted. That way if you decided to vote in person on the same day that you send in the ballot it will not be counted twice. There are usually a lot of people that work in the Elections office and this is their really busy time of year.
Seems like NC has their [stuff] together. I asked my boss. He's a former Assemblyman in NY state. He said the way they used to do it here was all the mail in ballots were compiled and put in piles, still sealed. After the in person voting on election day the names on the sealed ballots were compared to the names on the voter registry of those who voted and if a vote was recorded in person the mail-in was discarded. THEN the mailed in ballots would be tallied. Sounds kinda backasswards to me. And time consuming. Although I do know that if the margin of victory is greater than the total number of mail in ballots they don't even bother opening them. Crazy.

I've said this before but it bears repeating: I love that this forum has people from all over that can offer localized personal information.
 

Songbird76

Well-Known Member
Seems like NC has their [stuff] together. I asked my boss. He's a former Assemblyman in NY state. He said the way they used to do it here was all the mail in ballots were compiled and put in piles, still sealed. After the in person voting on election day the names on the sealed ballots were compared to the names on the voter registry of those who voted and if a vote was recorded in person the mail-in was discarded. THEN the mailed in ballots would be tallied. Sounds kinda backasswards to me. And time consuming. Although I do know that if the margin of victory is greater than the total number of mail in ballots they don't even bother opening them. Crazy.

I've said this before but it bears repeating: I love that this forum has people from all over that can offer localized personal information.
It definitely differs by state, and I know in the past, you had to have a specific reason for requesting a mail in ballot. Not anyone could request one because they didn't want to go to the polls. I think that's different this year because of Corona. I have no choice....I have to do mail-in or I can't vote. But living in another country is one of the valid reasons for requesting it. I also have to sign a document that swears that I am eligible to vote in the district where I'm mailing the ballot to, that I am not voting in any other place, that I have not been influenced by someone in my voting, and that I have marked the ballot in private and no one else has seen it but authorized officials.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
@NYwdwfan , Yup, varies by state.

My state mails out an application to apply for a mail-in ballot. It has your name and address, and barcode on it, and gets sent to your home, as long as you are a registered voter in your area.

If you decide you want to vote by mail, you sign and date the application card, and mail back (or take to City Hall) the application.

Then at some point (not sure when), they send you your own ballot with an identifying barcode. You fill that out and sign it -- drop it in a mailbox, or take to City Hall -- where they have a secure box built right into the wall of the building. It's locked inside the building and only the city clerk's office as the keys. There is a close captioned TV for additional security over this inside, locked box as well. During a busy election period, they check the box multiple times a day.

Not sure what the turnaround time is to receive (I assume an email) about receipt of the completed and signed, mail-in ballot.
 

PUSH

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Original Poster
@NYwdwfan, I don't know all the answers but at least when I voted by mail in the primaries in April, we requested our ballots online. Within a week or so we got them in the mail. We needed to fill them out privately, but with someone who could sign who was there to verify that I filled it out myself and someone did not fill it out for me. Then we could either mail them back, or they had a special box for ballots at city hall. However, there were issues with people in our state not receiving ballots despite requesting them in the correct timeframe - some had requested them weeks before the deadline - and we were allowed to still vote in person if we did not vote by mail. Even if we received the ballots. I am not sure how they keep track of that, though.
 

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