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Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
My SUV can get through most of the flooding if I really need to, but it always baffles me how little people in my town have no issue just plowing through salt water puddles without worry. I try to avoid them. Then a Subaru zooms by in the opposite direction splashing my car with their wake...:banghead:

I never thought about the Salt Water, we generally are only dealing with the muck from the river in the flood waters.

We have a road closure, bridge replacement we will be dealing with for 4 months, that is where the river in the residential area of our town usually goes over first, so last night I couldn't tell in the dark how badly the river went over, if it has yet. Sometimes it takes a few hours to rise and longer to recede.
 

NYwdwfan

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A chiropractor who practices A R T (active release techniques, it's a lot more muscle work and hands on manual traction compared to the usual chiropractor bing bang boom done and next please routine. ART specialists get recertified every year and keep afloat on latest techniques and treatments. It's really rather cool. A good ART chiro is going to spend a minimum of 30 minutes working on you per session.) might help him out...I don't wanna do the "try the chiro!" Harp but it could be well worth it if it helps versus surgery.

My ART chiro fixed a sprained ankle in three treatments and used kinesio tape on it twice...went to disney a few weeks afterwards and didn't have any problems :)

Thanks for the advice - he did regular chiro and PT when this happened a few years ago and it definitely helped. He will try anything to avoid surgery. Especially since he had testicular cancer surgery with lymph node dissection when he was in his 20s - so he has a big scar down his stomach and a lot of scar tissue. Sometimes these surgeries need to go in from the front and that would probably not be an option for him.

Oh Boy. Poor him. I hope they perfect the new laser surgery by the time he does decide to have surgery.
{{{Hugs to Him}}}

Thanks!!
 

MOXOMUMD

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My SUV can get through most of the flooding if I really need to, but it always baffles me how little people in my town have no issue just plowing through salt water puddles without worry. I try to avoid them. Then a Subaru zooms by in the opposite direction splashing my car with their wake...:banghead:
There's some cars in some neighborhoods sitting in water over the bottom of their doors. Makes me glad I live on a hillside.
 

acishere

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I never thought about the Salt Water, we generally are only dealing with the muck from the river in the flood waters.

We have a road closure, bridge replacement we will be dealing with for 4 months, that is where the river in the residential area of our town usually goes over first, so last night I couldn't tell in the dark how badly the river went over, if it has yet. Sometimes it takes a few hours to rise and longer to recede.
My town is bordered by the ocean on one and an inlet with sections of it running through certain neighborhoods, and some man-made canals connecting to the inlet. A lot of the town is a floodplain so when a lot of rain, high tide, and the moon phases can result in the water rising onto the road by one bridge and water rising up out of the sewers on other roads.
 

Goofyernmost

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My SUV can get through most of the flooding if I really need to, but it always baffles me how people in my town have no issue just plowing through salt water puddles without worry. I try to avoid them. Then a Subaru zooms by in the opposite direction splashing my car with their wake...:banghead:
The biggest danger in driving through standing water is not clearance, it is the fact that water many times hides a washed away portion of the road. That is why, SUV or not, they try to make it understood how dangerous water over a road can be.

I never thought about the Salt Water, we generally are only dealing with the muck from the river in the flood waters.
I'm not sure why being splashed with salt water is any different then fresh water. It's not like there are large chunks of salt floating around in it. Wait though... maybe it's the shark possibility.:jawdrop::joyfull:
 

acishere

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The biggest danger in driving through standing water is not clearance, it is the fact that water many times hides a washed away portion of the road. That is why, SUV or not, they try to make it understood how dangerous water over a road can be.


I'm not sure why being splashed with salt water is any different then fresh water. It's not like there are large chunks of salt floating around in it. Wait though... maybe it's the shark possibility.:jawdrop::joyfull:
I avoid using the one bridge if I know that area is flooding for that reason. The water rises out of the drains and floods the roads very regularly though. So sometimes it has be driven through here.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
I'm not sure why being splashed with salt water is any different then fresh water. It's not like there are large chunks of salt floating around in it.

Simply because salt is highly corrosive. Most salt that comes into contact with vehicles lets say, it is not in chunk form. In cold climates the rock salt dissolves into the water and is very damaging to cars. Ocean water is horribly corrosive and one doesn't see chunks of salt floating in the oceans and yet it seeps into all the components of a car. You will also see the same damage with swim suits, they deteriorate more quickly in salt water and in chlorine then they will in a freshwater lake. Even with rain, fog or humidity, depending on weather conditions, water molecules will combine with tiny particles of dust, salt, and smoke in the air. Fun stuff.

When I would have water damage claims for steel coils being shipped into the ports we would do a silver nitrate test to see if the water or condensation was fresh or salt water as there are not chunks of salt to visually tell you. When we would have to bid out the rejected coils on the secondary market because the auto makers no longer would take them we would get substantially more for salvage for fresh water damaged coils that salt damaged.

And this concludes today's public service science lesson. :)
 

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Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
My town is bordered by the ocean on one and an inlet with sections of it running through certain neighborhoods, and some man-made canals connecting to the inlet. A lot of the town is a floodplain so when a lot of rain, high tide, and the moon phases can result in the water rising onto the road by one bridge and water rising up out of the sewers on other roads.

Yeah we have that issue here because the river snakes and creates pockets that almost surround certain areas.
When the river goes over at her low spots it also runs into the fresh water sewers and then the sewers can't take it anymore or the treatment plant, then we have floody floodies even as far from the river as I am. We have only had sewers since around 9/11 ( I will always remember when they went in because I set up a radio for the workers to come and listen to the updates that day(s) on the front of the property.) We had big deep ditches before and that actually was less problem-some. Not nearly as pretty and a pain for residents to mow but actually a better system being close to a low lying area of the river.
 

Goofyernmost

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Simply because salt is highly corrosive. Most salt that comes into contact with vehicles lets say, it is not in chunk form. In cold climates the rock salt dissolves into the water and is very damaging to cars. Ocean water is horribly corrosive and one doesn't see chunks of salt floating in the oceans and yet it seeps into all the components of a car. You will also see the same damage with swim suits, they deteriorate more quickly in salt water and in chlorine then they will in a freshwater lake. Even with rain, fog or humidity, depending on weather conditions, water molecules will combine with tiny particles of dust, salt, and smoke in the air. Fun stuff.

When I would have water damage claims for steel coils being shipped into the ports we would do a silver nitrate test to see if the water or condensation was fresh or salt water as there are not chunks of salt to visually tell you. When we would have to bid out the rejected coils on the secondary market because the auto makers no longer would take them we would get substantially more for salvage for fresh water damaged coils that salt damaged.

And this concludes today's public service science lesson. :)
While what you are saying is all true. Cars are manufactured a bit differently then they were years ago when that danger list came out. Back in the 60's, 70's and 80's your car would rust out if you passed by someone using a clogged up salt shaker. Today, not so much. I currently own a 2005 Cadillac that spent the first 6 years of it's life in Vermont where the use of salt is abundant. There were times that my car would go for months without being washed because it was just to cold to bother with.

There is not one speck of rust on the car... not one. Bodies of autos are now sealed and submerged in special solvents that protect the metal from corrosion quite well. So, in my mind the last thing to worry about now is being splashed with salt water. It will all be fine.
 

Gabe1

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While what you are saying is all true. Cars are manufactured a bit differently then they were years ago when that danger list came out. Back in the 60's, 70's and 80's your car would rust out if you passed by someone using a clogged up salt shaker. Today, not so much. I currently own a 2005 Cadillac that spent the first 6 years of it's life in Vermont where the use of salt is abundant. There were times that my car would go for months without being washed because it was just to cold to bother with.

There is not one speck of rust on the car... not one. Bodies of autos are now sealed and submerged in special solvents that protect the metal from corrosion quite well. So, in my mind the last thing to worry about now is being splashed with salt water. It will all be fine.

Yeah, I'm not going to debate this. This is the field of my education and an industry I have a long term connection with along with being a Marine Surveyor. You are welcome to be a disbeliever I am fine with that.
 
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Goofyernmost

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Yeah, I'm not going to debate this. This is the field of my education and an industry I have a long term connection with along with being a Marine Surveyor. You are welcome to be a disbeliever am I am fine with that.
I believe I said that everything you said was true. I don't see how that is debating you, sorry if you feel that way. I then recounted my own experience and what I know about cars. Not a conflict at all. There are many things that can and will be affected by salt. I'm just saying that the affect on today's vehicles are minimal.:)
 
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