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englanddg

One Little Spark...
Okay Peeps - I need some advice.

If I report something to my boss, she is either going to shrug it off (not at all likely) or she is going to lose her freaking mind.

The situation involves my ever more forgetful, ever more cantankerous partner G.

Things have been really slow the past two weeks. Absolutely dead yesterday, with a few people coming in early today. Then, while I was in the office finishing up a deal mid-afternoon, we got slammed!

Four groups of people, all legit buyers, were there forever. They had many questions, most of which G could not answer. No biggie. He dealt with any new people coming in, and I juggled the 4 couples.

At one point, he left the floor and went in the back room. As I have mentioned before, I have acute hearing, and I clearly heard the pop top of a carbonated canned beverage. G does not drink soda pop.

When he comes out, I can clearly smell toothpaste (and beer) and he has sprayed the whole back room with Febreze Air Effects. G is a drinker, and often brings Heineken tall cans (500 ml) to work to enjoy after hours. I have never known him to drink in the middle of a shift, however. And certainly not while I am trying to nail down 5 deals. (All coming in tomorrow at 6:30 BTW.)

After G returned to the floor, the Builder came in. I pulled him into the office to ask him a question. (He does not like Purchasers to know who he is, so I always ask him things in private.). He immediately commented on the air freshener smell being a little heavy.

When hubby came to pick me up (an hour late!) I was still working on another deal, and G pulled hubby into the back room and tried to get him to have a beer with him. Hubby declined, pointing out that there were people in the office, and that he had to drive.

Here's the dilemma. Do I mention it to my manager? If she reacts the way I think she will - buh-bye G.
I could escape the nuclear fallout if she confronted G saying the Builder smelled beer in our office. Everyone knows I don't drink, so there is zero chance that I would be imbibing at 4:00 in the afternoon.

G is becoming almost impossible to work with. He argues about everything! And now, he is drinking on the job, while the Sales Presentation area is completely slammed, and I'm trying to nail down offers. The boss said that if G starts costing deals, then he is 100% gone. Sadly, I think we are nearly there.

What say you all?
Have you told G how you feel about it?
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
Thanks guys (and gals) for your input.

Time to be honest.

I am now at the point where I care less that he may be let go, and more that I don't end up bearing the brunt of his vitriol when he is canned.

I'm not even sure that there is another person available to work with me. They will have to hire someone.

I am thinking. Thinking hard. In the meantime, I want to vomit, and need some Gaviscon.
From what you describe, would you really miss his "assistance" (or lack thereof) when he's gone?
 

JenniferS

When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
Have you told G how you feel about it?
I can't even talk to G about the weather.

Furthermore, he honestly believes that he is carrying the entire site.

The boss worked with us for our grand opening weekend, and on the Sunday night, she said to me, "I had no idea he had gotten this bad. If you can't work with him, or he can't do the job, I'll replace him immediately."
So, I know it's not just me being hyper-critical.

It was at that time that I resolved to put up with him for the duration of the phase. I promised the boss that I would make it work; but more importantly, I promised myself that I would make it work.

Truthfully, after this phase, I already know that he is done. Can I just hold out a few more months? Ay, there's the rub.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
I can't even talk to G about the weather.

Furthermore, he honestly believes that he is carrying the entire site.

The boss worked with us for our grand opening weekend, and on the Sunday night, she said to me, "I had no idea he had gotten this bad. If you can't work with him, or he can't do the job, I'll replace him immediately."
So, I know it's not just me being hyper-critical.

It was at that time that I resolved to put up with him for the duration of the phase. I promised the boss that I would make it work; but more importantly, I promised myself that I would make it work.

Truthfully, after this phase, I already know that he is done. Can I just hold out a few more months? Ay, there's the rub.
If he's drinking at work, I doubt it's going to get much better...

Good luck. Seriously.

Now, I'm off to Taco Bell to get breakfast (not kidding...it's like a train wreck...I must try it, just to say I have)...
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
My credit would transfer in as pass/fail. I wouldn't be trying that hard if C meant the same thing as A:joyfull:

My DS's Disney University credits transferred as pass fail however he took a couple of distance classes from his University during the program.

This was before the health insurance laws changed to keep adult children on business/employee insurance policies until 26 years old. He had to remain a full time student to not permanently fall off our Health Insurance, that was 12 credit hours.
 

Soarin' Over Pgh

Well-Known Member
Okay Peeps - I need some advice.

If I report something to my boss, she is either going to shrug it off (not at all likely) or she is going to lose her freaking mind.

The situation involves my ever more forgetful, ever more cantankerous partner G.

Things have been really slow the past two weeks. Absolutely dead yesterday, with a few people coming in early today. Then, while I was in the office finishing up a deal mid-afternoon, we got slammed!

Four groups of people, all legit buyers, were there forever. They had many questions, most of which G could not answer. No biggie. He dealt with any new people coming in, and I juggled the 4 couples.

At one point, he left the floor and went in the back room. As I have mentioned before, I have acute hearing, and I clearly heard the pop top of a carbonated canned beverage. G does not drink soda pop.

When he comes out, I can clearly smell toothpaste (and beer) and he has sprayed the whole back room with Febreze Air Effects. G is a drinker, and often brings Heineken tall cans (500 ml) to work to enjoy after hours. I have never known him to drink in the middle of a shift, however. And certainly not while I am trying to nail down 5 deals. (All coming in tomorrow at 6:30 BTW.)

After G returned to the floor, the Builder came in. I pulled him into the office to ask him a question. (He does not like Purchasers to know who he is, so I always ask him things in private.). He immediately commented on the air freshener smell being a little heavy.

When hubby came to pick me up (an hour late!) I was still working on another deal, and G pulled hubby into the back room and tried to get him to have a beer with him. Hubby declined, pointing out that there were people in the office, and that he had to drive.

Here's the dilemma. Do I mention it to my manager? If she reacts the way I think she will - buh-bye G.
I could escape the nuclear fallout if she confronted G saying the Builder smelled beer in our office. Everyone knows I don't drink, so there is zero chance that I would be imbibing at 4:00 in the afternoon.

G is becoming almost impossible to work with. He argues about everything! And now, he is drinking on the job, while the Sales Presentation area is completely slammed, and I'm trying to nail down offers. The boss said that if G starts costing deals, then he is 100% gone. Sadly, I think we are nearly there.

What say you all?

So sorry I'm late to the party, I had a crazy busy weekend. :( Ok, so, to put my thoughts together, I'm gonna also quote some posts from others...

I would definitely report him. The reputation of your company is at stake here.

This. Absolutely.


If he is abandoning you during busy times to drink, something needs to be done about it. .

And this. It is not fair to YOU, or the company, or your boss, that a coworker is slacking off (and getting paid) to drink on the job- whether its ONE time or a million times- it doesn't matter. Someone isn't doing their job as they were hired to do and you are getting saddled with the baggage of doing YOUR job, plus HIS job.

At this point he is not functioning in a manner that is anything other then destructive to the company. .

Sliced this one down to the utmost important statement. This behavior is destructive to himself, but more importantly (sorry, in this case, it is) the company.

Furthermore, he honestly believes that he is carrying the entire site.
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Aaaaaaand, this.


My Mom is dealing with a very similar situation at her job (she's an optician, 31 years) and her coworker comes to work smelling like booze. He leaves at lunch time, comes back, and immediately goes to the bathroom to brush teeth, reapply deodorant, body spray, and mouth wash. It's SO obvious.

He is also an optician and about 3/4 of the job is dealing face to face with customers, fitting them with glasses, basically being in their face for minutes at a time. Several customers have gone back to my Mom (31 years, she kinda has a reputation for knowing her stuff) and have pinched their nose while waving their hand in front of their mouth. They can tell he's been boozing and they are reporting it to my Mom and not the boss.

Whether the boss knows or not, she's unsure of. Mom doesn't think so, because the Dr's there have ZERO tolerance for that- he would be out of there quick. She would tell them but she's facing a pretty rough situation if she does- it leaves the company understaffed and pushes his responsibilities onto her, on top of what she does, and she's recently taken on a heavier workload in addition to just the optician job.

However, he has cost the office a few patients with, essentially, bad bedside manner. I was at the office two weekends ago and he acted HORRIBLY around me- couldn't get the eyedrops in my eyes, couldn't get the test performed (and blamed it on me!) and generally acted like an . The end result was my left eye being very irritated and red before I got to see the Doctor, who ended up doing a manual test of what this goof was trying- and supposed to do- with the eye drops.

Ok, back to how this relates to you (sorry if I went off on a tangent there)...Whether he's drinking on the job, or even after the job, the fact seems pretty clear that he simply isn't "there" anymore and is not performing his job the way he should be. He COULD be costing the company money by not doing this. At this point, I hate to say it, but you could be as well- from what you've said you have been handling 4 cases at once- what if a 5th and 6th walk in? I hope that's not the case. Ever. But it's not YOUR fault that he isn't functioning at his job.

If I were in your shoes (and they are so cute, I kinda wish I were!) I would definitely go to the boss. But I think I would write down a bullet list of what the problems are, any evidence to support it, and walk into his/her office calmly, shut the door, and sit down to discuss the problem and how it's effecting..affecting you and the business as well.

It's time honey. I think you know that. *hugs*

And if you've made it all the way through that post, here's a picture of a cute beagle and a kitty as your reward.

Image-of-Cute-Puppy-and-Kitten.jpg
 

Zweiland

Well-Known Member
So sorry I'm late to the party, I had a crazy busy weekend. :( Ok, so, to put my thoughts together, I'm gonna also quote some posts from others...



This. Absolutely.




And this. It is not fair to YOU, or the company, or your boss, that a coworker is slacking off (and getting paid) to drink on the job- whether its ONE time or a million times- it doesn't matter. Someone isn't doing their job as they were hired to do and you are getting saddled with the baggage of doing YOUR job, plus HIS job.



Sliced this one down to the utmost important statement. This behavior is destructive to himself, but more importantly (sorry, in this case, it is) the company.



Aaaaaaand, this.


My Mom is dealing with a very similar situation at her job (she's an optician, 31 years) and her coworker comes to work smelling like booze. He leaves at lunch time, comes back, and immediately goes to the bathroom to brush teeth, reapply deodorant, body spray, and mouth wash. It's SO obvious.

He is also an optician and about 3/4 of the job is dealing face to face with customers, fitting them with glasses, basically being in their face for minutes at a time. Several customers have gone back to my Mom (31 years, she kinda has a reputation for knowing her stuff) and have pinched their nose while waving their hand in front of their mouth. They can tell he's been boozing and they are reporting it to my Mom and not the boss.

Whether the boss knows or not, she's unsure of. Mom doesn't think so, because the Dr's there have ZERO tolerance for that- he would be out of there quick. She would tell them but she's facing a pretty rough situation if she does- it leaves the company understaffed and pushes his responsibilities onto her, on top of what she does, and she's recently taken on a heavier workload in addition to just the optician job.

However, he has cost the office a few patients with, essentially, bad bedside manner. I was at the office two weekends ago and he acted HORRIBLY around me- couldn't get the eyedrops in my eyes, couldn't get the test performed (and blamed it on me!) and generally acted like an . The end result was my left eye being very irritated and red before I got to see the Doctor, who ended up doing a manual test of what this goof was trying- and supposed to do- with the eye drops.

Ok, back to how this relates to you (sorry if I went off on a tangent there)...Whether he's drinking on the job, or even after the job, the fact seems pretty clear that he simply isn't "there" anymore and is not performing his job the way he should be. He COULD be costing the company money by not doing this. At this point, I hate to say it, but you could be as well- from what you've said you have been handling 4 cases at once- what if a 5th and 6th walk in? I hope that's not the case. Ever. But it's not YOUR fault that he isn't functioning at his job.

If I were in your shoes (and they are so cute, I kinda wish I were!) I would definitely go to the boss. But I think I would write down a bullet list of what the problems are, any evidence to support it, and walk into his/her office calmly, shut the door, and sit down to discuss the problem and how it's effecting..affecting you and the business as well.

It's time honey. I think you know that. *hugs*

And if you've made it all the way through that post, here's a picture of a cute beagle and a kitty as your reward.

Image-of-Cute-Puppy-and-Kitten.jpg
I didn't read it, but I liked your post for the picture at the end.
 
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