When rules don't apply to others; I want to hear your stories

[Bender123]

The most frequent "rules don't apply" thing I saw was line jumpers...everywhere...

The new way of abusing I kept seeing was a single person would go in the fast pass line and have their entire group jump the railing when the FP and stand by lines would be close. Think of IaSW, where the fast pass runs parallel to the stand by lines. A single ider takes FP when the group gets to a point where the lines run by each other. The whole group then jumps the rail to join the FP lane and run past everybody, leaving everybody that saw them behind and the people they are skipping oblivious. I saw the same group do this over and over one day. Six people who each got three FP so they could have 18 FP as a group to keep doing this. At the MK, I don't think I saw a single secondary FP check in operation near load...In fact, the only ones I saw running were Pandora, ToT and Frozen, which actually can stop this behavior.

 

[Goofyernmost]

"Those people" who don't follow the parking CM's directions and try to stop too early in the row instead of going all the way to the end like everybody else...

I've seen that happen and listened to the CM literally scream at them to move on down the line. The driver completely ignored her, until the CM got on the radio and called for security. I don't know whether it was real or just fake, but, it worked the guy uttered a few swear words and moved on down.

 

[Goofyernmost]

The most frequent "rules don't apply" thing I saw was line jumpers...everywhere...

The new way of abusing I kept seeing was a single person would go in the fast pass line and have their entire group jump the railing when the FP and stand by lines would be close. Think of IaSW, where the fast pass runs parallel to the stand by lines. A single ider takes FP when the group gets to a point where the lines run by each other. The whole group then jumps the rail to join the FP lane and run past everybody, leaving everybody that saw them behind and the people they are skipping oblivious. I saw the same group do this over and over one day. Six people who each got three FP so they could have 18 FP as a group to keep doing this. At the MK, I don't think I saw a single secondary FP check in operation near load...In fact, the only ones I saw running were Pandora, ToT and Frozen, which actually can stop this behavior.

By definition FP itself is line jumping. Sanctioned and approved by Disney and anyone that happens to be holding one. However, it is still line jumping and it never fails to make me angry. (Please don't tell me that I could have gotten one, we all know that isn't true.

I am not sure how each person could have gotten three of the same FP to the same attraction all at one time, but, maybe I'm missing something in the story.

 

[graphite1326]

Well, that's a croc anyway...

punny

 

[Bender123]

By definition FP itself is line jumping. Sanctioned and approved by Disney and anyone that happens to be holding one. However, it is still line jumping and it never fails to make me angry. (Please don't tell me that I could have gotten one, we all know that isn't true.

I am not sure how each person could have gotten three of the same FP to the same attraction all at one time, but, maybe I'm missing something in the story.

Six people, who can each get three fast passes. Each gets a random selection of FP as a solo rider. The five without passes go in SB line and the one with a live FP uses the FP. The FP person meets the group as the lines pass. The group only needs one FP per ride to make this work, so they can keep repeating this process until all six have used heir FP, meaning a group of six can do this for six rides. You only need a single person to use a FP to meet the group in the SB lines. The next time you do it, you can send another person with their FP to meet the group and so on.

Its pretty awful and its almost undetectable to cast members as it happens in Queue and away from their view, by the time you can find a cast member to inform, the people are long finished with the ride and on to the next one.

Here is a bad MS Paint example of how they do it on IASW

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[Disney4family]

When you get to Beauty and the Beast stage show early, and then a family with 3 little ones sits next to you. The show hasn't started yet, the parents are looking at their phones, and their kids are playing, kicking and pushing me. Their mom looks over, sees it, DOES NOTHING. I put my giant back pack on the bench between us to protect myself. The mom dirty looks me and starts scooching her fam closer to me, I guess so they could have the best view possible? Then she started speaking spanish to her husband, found out they were from Brazil, my husband also speaks spanish. She was complaining to him about me. I left my backpack in place and put them on ignore. I guess I was the one out of line. Lol.

My dad had to do something similar one year when we were waiting for Illuminations. We had the kids in their strollers right up to the fence so they would have a nice view. A family who didn't ("choose to"?) speak/understand English tried to squeeze in front. My dad didn't have a backpack like you so he stuck his knee into the fence and held his place. (It helped, I guess, that he was a little Sicilian and could have his knee there quite comfortably!) They weren't happy, but he didn't budge.

 

[Foltzy]

Line jumpers are the worst.
I understand if you have to leave the line to go to the bathroom or whatever but when dad saves the place in line and mom, junior, junior number 2 come through the line it isn't okay. My family and I block them from coming through in ways that look casual-ish. I feel that why should they be allowed to have fun while I suffer in line only for them to get on even sooner.

The worst I remember is IASW. A mom saved a spot for a group of 12. We didn't let them through and made them go to the end of line. They ended up swearing at us in Spanish and calling us other things. Thankfully my sister and I have studied it for years and can translate. I was called a "bruha" or witch, multiple times.

 

[TiggerDad]

Six people, who can each get three fast passes. Each gets a random selection of FP as a solo rider. The five without passes go in SB line and the one with a live FP uses the FP. The FP person meets the group as the lines pass. The group only needs one FP per ride to make this work, so they can keep repeating this process until all six have used heir FP, meaning a group of six can do this for six rides. You only need a single person to use a FP to meet the group in the SB lines. The next time you do it, you can send another person with their FP to meet the group and so on.

Its pretty awful and its almost undetectable to cast members as it happens in Queue and away from their view, by the time you can find a cast member to inform, the people are long finished with the ride and on to the next one.

Here is a bad MS Paint example of how they do it on IASWView attachment 219907 ...

seems like they wouldn't need to have one person go through FP to do this. I've seen people jump from regular standby to FP queue when they weren't meeting someone else from their party. It's the absence of the secondary checkpoint that permits this.

 

[Bender123]

That's it , i call for a WALL to be built between standby and fastpass queues!

I saw a group do this at Test Track...there is only about 10 feet where the lines are close, just as you enter the building. Even walls don't stop them. HM, SM, Peter Pan, Splash and Pirates were all rides at MK I saw various groups do this. The only way to really stop it is a secondary FP check at the load platform. If you give an ill mannered person a chance to screw people over, hey will find it. After I noticed it the first time, I kept noticing it again and again. Not sure if I just didn't notice it before, because I wasn't watching, but once I saw it, I kept seeing it.

 

[KBLovedDisney]

That's it , i call for a WALL to be built between standby and fastpass queues!

 

[Bender123]

seems like they wouldn't need to have one person go through FP to do this. I've seen people jump from regular standby to FP queue when they weren't meeting someone else from their party. It's the absence of the secondary checkpoint that permits this.

You, technically, wouldn't, but what having one person in FP does do is it allows the group an excuse if they get busted. "We all had fastpasses and we just got in the wrong line, so we jumped into the line we belonged in." Plus, having a person in FP gives you an easy "explain it away" to people that see you skip, which happened to me. Call them out and they just say they are meeting their group as they run off.

I just hate line jumpers and this is such a cheesy way to do it.

 

[thomas998]

OMG, yes!! This drives me insane, especially on HM!

This happened to us in Under the Sea, we were stopped and the people next to us in their clamshell sat there and took several flash photos...I may have blatantly said that they told us not to use Flash Photography, but did they listen? No!

Maybe the best thing Disney could do would be to post photos of the ride taken with flashes somewhere in the queue... maybe then people would realize that when you take a flash picture it never looks good.... although it might spoil the magic for some kids when they see the wires and things you get when you look at a dark ride with full illumination.

 

[Raineman]

This whole thread just confirms to me that respect and common courtesy is somewhat rare these days. It is amazing how some of the idiots that do the things that are discussed here can make you go from thoroughly enjoying your day at WDW to wanting to beat the crap out of complete strangers. Maybe I am just unaware that there is a rule that spending $100 to get into a theme park gives you the right to do whatever you want, regardless of the rules-it's all about me, me, me.

 

[Bender123]

This whole thread just confirms to me that respect and common courtesy is somewhat rare these days. It is amazing how some of the idiots that do the things that are discussed here can make you go from thoroughly enjoying your day at WDW to wanting to beat the crap out of complete strangers. Maybe I am just unaware that there is a rule that spending $100 to get into a theme park gives you the right to do whatever you want, regardless of the rules-it's all about me, me, me.

I didn't even get into people saving chairs in crowded restaurants for their bags...that just grinds my mouse ears to have a person say a chair is being saved for a person who never shows up and the chair is used as a storage location for their shopping bags.

 

[Raineman]

I didn't even get into people saving chairs in crowded restaurants for their bags...that just grinds my mouse ears to have a person say a chair is being saved for a person who never shows up and the chair is used as a storage location for their shopping bags.

If myself, my DW or my DD did any of the things being talked about here, I would be completely embarrassed and fully apologetic to whomever was the brunt of the issue. Makes me wonder if the disrespectful idiots at WDW ever bother to say "Please" and "Thank you" to the CMs, or show them any courtesy at all.

 

[Bender123]

If myself, my DW or my DD did any of the things being talked about here, I would be completely embarrassed and fully apologetic to whomever was the brunt of the issue. Makes me wonder if the disrespectful idiots at WDW ever bother to say "Please" and "Thank you" to the CMs, or show them any courtesy at all.

Happened twice in one day a week ago...We are a group of five (three kids) and stopped at Gastons for a snack and break from the heat. Two women took a table with four chairs. Asked politely if we could use one of the empty chairs and they responded by saying "no. we are saving them for somebody" and using them as a bag rest/foot rest for the entire 25 minutes we were there. I stood the entire time so the kids and Fiancée could sit.

Same type of thing happened at Ohana while waiting for our table...a lady took a whole couch and two chairs for her family that were (judging from the drink) sitting in Trader Sams...The buzzer went off and she called them to come back from the bar.

Its really crappy that the main thing that ruins the magic is how rude and thoughtless some other guests are. Its Disney World...we are all there to enjoy the magic, we are all hot, tired and sore...just be a decent person and join in on making somebody's day better.

On a positive note, there are still an overwhelming amount of good people, but the rare people that act line jerks really knock it all down.

 

[Santa Raccoon 77]

This thread reminds me of when we went to the last of the evenings showing of Philharmagic. We were on the back row and 2 cast members were stood there behind us just jabbering away to each other at volume and I could hear them more than the show.

Being a typical Brit all I did was keep tutting loudly and looking behind me occaisonally but they never stopped for the whole duration!

Hope you stepped it up to an affronted glare .

 

[JohnD]

Okay, so this didn't happen at Disney: A group of about 10 people standing in the middle of the parking lot looking at me because I dared to squeeze past them in my car to get to parking spot beyond them. It's a "PARKING" lot, not a standing lot.

This did happen at WDW: A group in front of me on POTC taking flash photos. The person directly in front of me at one point turned around taking a flash photo behind him which put the flash directly in my eyes. I even yelled to them to stop. Didn't do any good. In return, I got a ruined experience on Pirates, and they get crappy photos that probably didn't turn out well anyway.

 

[BoarderPhreak]

Not so much to do with rules, but... I hate it when a group of people decide to stop (often suddenly) wherever they are and just stand there (discussing, confused, observing, whatever) despite the fact that they're blocking the flow of people all around them. I get it, it happens... Just move to the side. Or a family walking (slowly) side-by-side, slowing everything down around them, usually when the path is narrow to begin with and/or has oncoming people. They set the pace for everyone behind them. They probably all drive like this, too.

 

[Sonconato]

seems like they wouldn't need to have one person go through FP to do this. I've seen people jump from regular standby to FP queue when they weren't meeting someone else from their party. It's the absence of the secondary checkpoint that permits this.

Yes! I wish they would bring back those second touchpoints.