What's with the wait times!? (hint.. they're low)

fctiger

Well-Known Member
Wait times are slowly trending upward the last few days. Do not let others convince you otherwise. Just look on your own throughout each day. It will be overcrowded again in no time.

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Pretty much. But it was always going to get a little more crowded in July because thats when a lot of the tourists come anyway. I expected it to be busier no matter what but hopefully still not slammed. But the new AP deal will definitely have an effect.
 

fctiger

Well-Known Member
This holds no water. He’s acting as if they built generic spaceships there too, and that there isn’t the holy grail of all Star Wars locations: the Millennium Falcon.

Do you really think that if they tore down the giant petrified trees, and ripped out and replaced the green real trees with piles of desert sand, and put a “Mos Eisley“ sign above the cantina, that suddenly thousands will show up in droves?

Harry Potter’s world is very ‘building’ centric. Hagrid’s Hut, Ministry of Magic, Shrieking Shack, 12 Grimwald Place, etc. these are all places that can be re-created more or less realistically in the theme park setting.

Star Wars jumps from planet to planet. Not only is this difficult to re-create in a theme park, but it is also not the most important part of Star Wars. I’d rather be on the Millennium Falcon than be on Besbin. I’d rather be at a woodsy rebel base that I’ve never heard of, than at a jokey “Look at all this white concrete pretending to be ice” fake Hoth. I’d rather that a large ride (which takes me to a star destroyer) be hidden behind unique rock work than WDI make some vain attempt at a forced perspective Death Star. The MF is really iconic because that's the ship that has defied SW outside of thee prequels. Its the one constant you seen in both the OT and ST. I'm actually curious after Episode 9 will that be the last we see of it for a long time but I guess so since they are moving on to different eras.

Anyone who is making these coy arguments about how they should have built the greatest hits of the Star Wars planets as a theme park just isn’t thinking hard enough.

You make a great point. You can't compare Harry Potter to Star Wars. All those locations in Harry Potter are the prime locations in all the films and books. The characters live in those areas. SW is not the same. As you said they jump planet to planet. For all the talk of Taitoinee, while everyone knows it, its not some pivotal planet to the stories at all. Basically its just Lukes's and Annakin's home, but it has really no bearing on any of the stories outside of that. Yes its more iconic but I highly doubt anyone has ever dreamed of walking around Taitoinne because there is literally nothing there. It's a desert planet with a small town, hence what they have in Batuu now.

The MF is really the most iconic thing in SW because its the one constant in the movies outside of the prequels. Everyone has wanted to walk around the MF and now they can.

For me personally if they had to take a planet from the films I would want Naboo or Coursecant. Those are beautiful and set a more hopeful tone as well. But they are the exception since most SW planets are usually rugged and pretty barren outside a few areas like Batuu itself.
 
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Many=Disney

Are you seriously saying that there aren't a lot of people who believed the park was going to be a nightmare after the land opened? Because that's just silly.

And not just people on forums or who closely follow Disney! I know quite a few people in "real" life who planned early vacations to avoid the imagined crowding that would come after opening.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I can't tell if you're joking or not.... but I do disagree. Hardcore fans would still "dream up adventures of their own..." Wait, no. No they wouldn't. Nobody does that at theme parks. Ever. People have fun with their family and enjoy the tales the park tells them. They don't make up their own fictional adventures. But one way or another, a non-Hogwarts wouldn't be as instantly recognizable and appealing to the GP. That's why they modeled it after the movie sets and not the books.
A very predictable outcome to a reasonable human brain pattern.
Let all hope it stays this way all summer....

Endless Summer!!!!
The good news Star Wars appeal has never been stronger - no matter how many bad movies they make (5 outta the last 7...If you’re honest)
I would gladly take Endor with an Ewok village speedbike coaster, a Falcon walkthrough and ROTR over Batuu. I’d be willing to sacrifice the cantina that sits 30 people, the droid experience and Savis- although Disney wouldn’t. Although they could probably make the latter two work.
Any of us old gen X fans would. But just because we now have the biggest share of the money and only have 50 or so years to live...doesn’t mean it should be about us.

After all...toys are meant for kids. Even though all the Toy companies report problems getting kids to buy toys and the Star Wars merch - in particular - has been heavily driven by the adult collector...

...I totally forget how I was supporting the ambiguous, WDI cooked up non-familiar planet again? It will come back - I’m sure.

I didn’t think of a speeder bike ride when I was a kid...though I did build one on rollercoaster tycoon when I was an immature adult.

For me...it was the space battle (battle of Endor) type coaster...xwing trains that Weaved and banked around a Star field project.

Space mountain on steroids. With lsm it’s so easily done.

Woulda worked then when they did stupid minivans on sticks...woulda worked now when the new movies use the same ships (when there aren’t busy chopping up the mighty B wing to makes them comical junk drag racers...)...

Just would have worked. But you know - 48” height restriction is a no go. How are kids gonna buy those gift shop toys they no longer want?

Ace Ventura had a line about this kinda thing
 

Curious Constance

Well-Known Member
Are you seriously saying that there aren't a lot of people who believed the park was going to be a nightmare after the land opened? Because that's just silly.

And not just people on forums or who closely follow Disney! I know quite a few people in "real" life who planned early vacations to avoid the imagined crowding that would come after opening.
No, I’m saying that Disney’s actions up to the opening of the land certainly contributed to everyone’s beliefs that it would be packed.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Are you seriously saying that there aren't a lot of people who believed the park was going to be a nightmare after the land opened? Because that's just silly.

And not just people on forums or who closely follow Disney! I know quite a few people in "real" life who planned early vacations to avoid the imagined crowding that would come after opening.
I’m saying that if the Star Wars fanbase was as stable/strong as the Disney apologists want us to believe...

The mob wouldn’t have been deterred. People have conveniently revisionist forgotten the Star Wars phenomenon.

The crowd would have come anyway before prequels...and they would have been there if not for the last 2 movies being tremendous mistakes.
 

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
I’m saying that if the Star Wars fanbase was as stable/strong as the Disney apologists want us to believe...

The mob wouldn’t have been deterred. People have conveniently revisionist forgotten the Star Wars phenomenon.

The crowd would have come anyway before prequels...and they would have been there if not for the last 2 movies being tremendous mistakes.
Hasbro killed the fan base with poor distribution practices for over ten years. They came out with amazing product but you can't buy it at retail.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Hasbro killed the fan base with poor distribution practices for over ten years. They came out with amazing product but you can't buy it at retail.


Wait...you think that’s all that’s happened?

Are you George lucas’s Lawyer or Kathy kennedy’s?
The material has been mediocre on the hole AT BEST.

Or are we not willing to say that?
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
A very predictable outcome to a reasonable human brain pattern.

The good news Star Wars appeal has never been stronger - no matter how many bad movies they make (5 outta the last 7...If you’re honest)

Any of us old gen X fans would. But just because we now have the biggest share of the money and only have 50 or so years to live...doesn’t mean it should be about us.

After all...toys are meant for kids. Even though all the Toy companies report problems getting kids to buy toys and the Star Wars merch - in particular - has been heavily driven by the adult collector...

...I totally forget how I was supporting the ambiguous, WDI cooked up non-familiar planet again? It will come back - I’m sure.

I didn’t think of a speeder bike ride when I was a kid...though I did build one on rollercoaster tycoon when I was an immature adult.

For me...it was the space battle (battle of Endor) type coaster...xwing trains that Weaved and banked around a Star field project.

Space mountain on steroids. With lsm it’s so easily done.

Woulda worked then when they did stupid minivans on sticks...woulda worked now when the new movies use the same ships (when there aren’t busy chopping up the mighty B wing to makes them comical junk drag racers...)...

Just would have worked. But you know - 48” height restriction is a no go. How are kids gonna buy those gift shop toys they no longer want?

Ace Ventura had a line about this kinda thing
I’m saying that if the Star Wars fanbase was as stable/strong as the Disney apologists want us to believe...

The mob wouldn’t have been deterred. People have conveniently revisionist forgotten the Star Wars phenomenon.

The crowd would have come anyway before prequels...and they would have been there if not for the last 2 movies being tremendous mistakes.
I appreciate your opinions, but can we please keep the "Disney Star Wars films are pick your negative adjective" talk out of this thread. It just breeds derailed conversations about the films that shouldn't be had in this thread. Not every thread about Galaxy's Edge needs to have talk about how you hate the Disney Star Wars films. Thank you.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I'm not saying that is the only thing. There is a lot more to it. However Hasbro/Disney did hurt the collector market.
Yeah...but the collector market is mostly in their 40s and can afford almost anything...bad practices would have driven a change to those practices If the demand hasn’t softened...which seems to be the case
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I appreciate your opinions, but can we please keep the "Disney Star Wars films are pick your negative adjective" talk out of this thread. It just breeds derailed conversations about the films that shouldn't be had in this thread. Not every thread about Galaxy's Edge needs to have talk about how you hate the Disney Star Wars films. Thank you.

Indeed it does...

But this is a Star Wars land. And I need not apologize for discussion of Star Wars in a Star Wars discussion.

Now I’m ok leaving this thread and not saying more If you agree not to “fan moderate” anyone else as you unsuccessfully just made a stab at with me.

Fair deal

(And your contention seems on every Star Wars thread that all concern is a complete internet driven overreaction...but as hard evidence mounts, you ignore it.

Take a loss in the “L” column occasionally....say nothing.

If Marty delivers on the rumor of a Brazil pavilion...I’ll take it on the chin in writing. I’ll show you how to admit a mistake an own it. It’s part of growth)
 
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