What's with all the hate?

WildcatDen

Well-Known Member
We enjoyed Mermaid. Loved the cue line and the ride was fun. Could things be better? Sure. Still, IMO, very nice for what it is, a dark ride themed to an animated movie. Now, if they could have put the clam shells on Kuka Arms and used more screens, that could have been sweet. Imagine you are just under Ursula when Eric pilots the boat into her heart, make it a 4d effect where the riders get sprayed with Octopus ink and blood. Free handy wipes are passed out when you leave the attraction. . .
 

Tonka's Skipper

Well-Known Member
WDW has been neglected by Mr. Iger and his merry band of corporate bean counters. The folks that are only looking at the bottom line of the next quarter and not the long term future and success of the company. They have cut budgets left and right in all areas, including maintence and it has been showing the last few years.

They don't understand that Disney success is not just the bottom line, its is Disney's reputation, the delivery of high quality in everything they do and present to their fans.

Sadly there are also folks that seem to have problems with anything Disney, both real and imagined. My feeling is that they don't understand Disney and the nostalgae,the magic and pixie dust. The love so many generations of Disney fans have for the classic Disney. For the classic attractions of DL and WDW. Others are just tying to be so pro UNI, they feel obliged to try and take down anything Disney, always saying UNI is better. I think Uni did a great job with HP and we will see if the new land is done as well, however WDW offers so much more the next E ticket. It's all the little things, the glow in a child's eye when the meet Mickey and MINNIE OR A Princess or other characters.

I think with the amazing new 7DMT,which started as a D ticket, but has been done so well, its a easy E ticket, and the improvements and more frequent refurbs and increased maintenance and cleaning, Mr. Iger has seen the light and things will be returning to the way Walt and Roy did things.

I can go on and on... but I think I made my point.

AKK
 

DinoInstitute

Well-Known Member
Hmm... My opinion? Well, I rode them both on my last trip, and honestly, I enjoyed them both, but yup they each got problems.
Peter Pan is just a fun ride, but after the first two scenes it just kinda loses its "wow" factor for me, because the wonder of taking off off the track is gone, and the scenes are in no way amazing or realistic. Heck, the volcanoes in that scene are lined with tin foil and have a red light, and the simple painted sets and statues are not wow-ish, and aa's are so basic.
Little Mermaid ,well lets just say that the queue is about 20x better than the actual ride itself. Which is most likely why some people consider it a disappointment. Really though, while it has some great animatronics, the sets are too "oh..huh" compared to the queue and in the grand under-the-sea scene, i agree, the lighting fixtures and walls can be clearly seen. But, I have no doubt that in 15 or so years, this ride will be a classic (That is once all the people that are stubborn about the current classics lose interest;)).

Just my opinion. All the rest of you are stupid.;):)
 

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Original Poster
I do believe I can agree with many people on how it seems that Disney put more effort into the queue line. Kind of odd. .-. Reminds me of the sea with nemo and friends queue line now that I think about it. If you actually look around the queue line it's really neat! It's cozy and dark and there's stuff to look at while the ride is reaaaalllly just... eh. :p

I'm guessing that's how you guys feel o-o
 

eddieh

Member
What makes me laugh is that a good number of the people who complain about their let-down are the same ones who would complain about the fact they can't get on during soft-opening times or if the ride wasn't opening in time for their vacation plans.
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
There are TONS of legitimate points as to why the attraction is underwhelming. The big one to me, though, is that there is virtually NO innovation. That ride could have been made practically the same 20+ years ago.
I dont think the animatronics could have been the same 20 years ago for the projection ones at 7dm.
 

Disneydreamer23

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I do not compare Peter Pan to Little Mermaid but you have to think Peter Pan was madeso long ago I love Peter Pan ultimately be one of my favorite ride it brings you back to when I was a child I don't think Little Mermaid is bad but from the original video that they made it is so much different it is so much different
 

DinoInstitute

Well-Known Member
I do believe I can agree with many people on how it seems that Disney put more effort into the queue line. Kind of odd. .-. Reminds me of the sea with nemo and friends queue line now that I think about it. If you actually look around the queue line it's really neat! It's cozy and dark and there's stuff to look at while the ride is reaaaalllly just... eh. :p

I'm guessing that's how you guys feel o-o
I agree. However, i actually think that Nemo is a pretty fun ride-the story just makes no sence if you do not vividly remember the movie, like someone else said about TLM
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
"Don't do anything?" Absolute rubbish. Those joysticks & buttons play probably the most vital role in the entire experience: Giving tourists the false sense of actually doing something to help progress the mission.

And oh how some truly believe their pushing of blinking buttons or pulling back on said joystick actually impact the ride. Some CM's must wake up laughing.
I know you are being sarcastic, but I have to ask if you know of anyway to make them actually do something when there are dozens of riders at any given time. It seems like everyone wants to actually be launched into outer space and cannot let their own imagination work. If it isn't happening, I'm not going to waste my time imagining it is. It's not my job, it's theirs! Would that be about right? I mean it's not real! Oh, by the way, you do know that the Haunted Mansion isn't really haunted don't you? I believe you have to imagine that it is. So now there are two attractions that Disney has let us down on. After all, the least they could have done is fill the place with real ghosts.
 
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Kuzcotopia

Well-Known Member
I wet to WDW the first time when I was five. I have a few vague memories of the trip, and many of the attractions.

By far my fondest, and most vivid, memories are of Peter Pan's Flight.

Sometimes we're so eager for imagineers to replace our own imaginations. . . And we forget that kids don't restrict themselves to what they're shown. They add to it.

When we were children at WDW, that's what we did. Whatever gaps we see in the "show," are often filled by kids. But only if the attraction engages those kids creatively.

I will always believe that ANY attraction is a flawless experience if a child believes it.
 

bhg469

Well-Known Member
WDW has been neglected by Mr. Iger and his merry band of corporate bean counters. The folks that are only looking at the bottom line of the next quarter and not the long term future and success of the company. They have cut budgets left and right in all areas, including maintence and it has been showing the last few years.

They don't understand that Disney success is not just the bottom line, its is Disney's reputation, the delivery of high quality in everything they do and present to their fans.

Sadly there are also folks that seem to have problems with anything Disney, both real and imagined. My feeling is that they don't understand Disney and the nostalgae,the magic and pixie dust. The love so many generations of Disney fans have for the classic Disney. For the classic attractions of DL and WDW. Others are just tying to be so pro UNI, they feel obliged to try and take down anything Disney, always saying UNI is better. I think Uni did a great job with HP and we will see if the new land is done as well, however WDW offers so much more the next E ticket. It's all the little things, the glow in a child's eye when the meet Mickey and MINNIE OR A Princess or other characters.

I think with the amazing new 7DMT,which started as a D ticket, but has been done so well, its a easy E ticket, and the improvements and more frequent refurbs and increased maintenance and cleaning, Mr. Iger has seen the light and things will be returning to the way Walt and Roy did things.

I can go on and on... but I think I made my point.

AKK

Wow... are you high?
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
I think with the amazing new 7DMT,which started as a D ticket, but has been done so well, its a easy E ticket, and the improvements and more frequent refurbs and increased maintenance and cleaning, Mr. Iger has seen the light and things will be returning to the way Walt and Roy did things.
AKK

Tonka, I luv you brother, but you must have typed that after a huge bong rip.
 

morningstar

Well-Known Member
I know you are being sarcastic, but I have to ask if you know of anyway to make them actually do something when there are dozens of riders at any given time.

Your car is spinning on the end of an arm, simulating G forces. Tilt the car one way or another, and you can simulate a change of direction of the G forces, so that you feel like you are banking or pitching (or hurling). You cannot change the magnitude of the G forces, but you can change the direction.

It seems like everyone wants to actually be launched into outer space and cannot let their own imagination work. If it isn't happening, I'm not going to waste my time imagining it is. It's not my job, it's theirs!

By your argument, we didn't need Mission: Space at all, because the motion simulation from Soarin' or even Horizons (no actual motion, just a wrap-around screen) was adequate. Which I think is probably true, but at least if the money spent on real, actual G-forces was down the drain, at least maybe the addition of real, actual interaction would have been nice.

Even the joystick in Astro Orbiters does something. Should it just be a pole bolted to the floor and we can imagine we are going up and down?
 

bhg469

Well-Known Member
Please explain your sarcasm. What is your issue with his wall of text?
I agree wdw was neglected by Iger and the bottom line trumps everything these days. That part I agree 100% but to say that mine train started as a d ticket and is now an e ticket is craziness. It's a minute and a half kiddie coaster! Show scenes were removed and if any thing was a blue sky e ticket and is now a D ticket at best.

Iger is not seeing any light. He just sees the bottom line, nothing more.
 

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