What's with all the hate?

[wdisney9000]

I agree wdw was neglected by Iger and the bottom line trumps everything these days. That part I agree 100% but to say that mine train started as a d ticket and is now an e ticket is craziness. It's a minute and a half kiddie coaster! Show scenes were removed and if any thing was a blue sky e ticket and is now a D ticket at best.

Iger is not seeing any light. He just sees the bottom line, nothing more.

In a sense of growing the company and increasing the bottom line, Iger has knocked it out of the park, and I completely respect that, and him, for doing so. In a sense of adding/allwoing quality of magic in the parks (on the level of Imagination from the originals), he gets a D- . I dont give him an F because he has allowed some things to happen. All be it poor of what they are capable of , imo (carsland being the exception)

 

[Goofyernmost]

Your car is spinning on the end of an arm, simulating G forces. Tilt the car one way or another, and you can simulate a change of direction of the G forces, so that you feel like you are banking or pitching (or hurling). You cannot change the magnitude of the G forces, but you can change the direction.

By your argument, we didn't need Mission: Space at all, because the motion simulation from Soarin' or even Horizons (no actual motion, just a wrap-around screen) was adequate. Which I think is probably true, but at least if the money spent on real, actual G-forces was down the drain, at least maybe the addition of real, actual interaction would have been nice.

Even the joystick in Astro Orbiters does something. Should it just be a pole bolted to the floor and we can imagine we are going up and down?

No, by my argument we need to stop insisting on the impossible. Astro Orbiters is a two rider and they are usually family. Not only that but all they do is go up or down, big whoop! Not a good comparison. I could also go on and on about how G forces are applied. They come from gravity, there is no gravity in space, the only force that can be felt is the pull from whatever the direction the earth is located in.

In MS there are many times that someone you do not know is in there with you. There are 4 controllers in each capsule. If one moves it to the left, another to the right, another downward and the next one upward, what happens? Does the capsule just rip apart attempting to obey all those commands? Yes, you can do a lot of things if it is a singularly operated system, but when you have a group, sometimes consisting of unknown people, who gets to decide the degree of "thrill" that they all experience? What if it makes your experience better and makes someone else sick? Should that not be considered?

Use your imagination to make it believable. What they have is very well done and, like so many rides at Disney, it requires the willing suspension of disbelief in order to be enjoyed. If one cannot do that, then one will not enjoy it.

 

[bhg469]

In a sense of growing the company and increasing the bottom line, Iger has knocked it out of the park, and I completely respect that, and him, for doing so. In a sense of adding/allwoing quality of magic in the parks (on the level of Imagination from the originals), he gets a D- . I dont give him an F because he has allowed some things to happen. All be it poor of what they are capable of, imo (carsland being the exception)

I completely agree. For disney as a whole the guy secured the company with all the IPs he aquired. Parks though... ugh, its been a dismal 10 years and not much more of a future. He us under utilizing everything g that could make them great.

 

[Arty Cordova]

Just got back today and I'm feeling pretty bummed already. Need to start planning the next trip soon.

 

[wdisney9000]

Just got back today and I'm feeling pretty bummed already. Need to start planning the next trip soon.

Man, I hate that feeling. How was the trip though?

 

[morningstar]

No, by my argument we need to stop insisting on the impossible. Astro Orbiters is a two rider and they are usually family. Not only that but all they do is go up or down, big whoop! Not a good comparison.

Obviously they're as different as night and day, but that just makes the point stronger. Even in a very basic ride, they recognized the value of some rider control. It would not be the same if it went up and down in a predefined pattern. Tomorrowland Speedway is another one. You could fall asleep in the car and you'd complete your lap, but they give you some token level of control. Why can't a much more elaborate attraction have at least that level of interactivity?

I could also go on and on about how G forces are applied. They come from gravity, there is no gravity in space, the only force that can be felt is the pull from whatever the direction the earth is located in.

That's actually not right at all. The force that can be felt is the opposite of the direction the thrusters are firing. Astronauts in the space station do not feel pulled toward the Earth. In truth they are pulled toward the Earth but they don't feel it. There is no thruster firing. Astronauts on a multi-stage launch vehicle feel normal weight until the launch, then strong G forces, then when the first stage stops they will feel temporarily weightless, then when the next stage starts they will feel G forces again. In a vacuum it's all about the thruster.

In MS there are many times that someone you do not know is in there with you. There are 4 controllers in each capsule. If one moves it to the left, another to the right, another downward and the next one upward, what happens?

The story goes that one person has the role of the pilot. Their stick should control. Other people have responsibilities for hitting certain buttons. If they screw that up, it could lead to different branches of movie on the screen in a "choose your own adventure" style.

Yes, you can do a lot of things if it is a singularly operated system, but when you have a group, sometimes consisting of unknown people, who gets to decide the degree of "thrill" that they all experience? What if it makes your experience better and makes someone else sick? Should that not be considered?

If you go on the orange side and ride with strangers, then you have to be ready for whatever your pilot dishes out. If you worry about getting sick there is always the green side.

 

[Yert3]

Has anyone seen the changes made with the lighting at the DCA version? I find it to be really awesome and hope it comes to MK. Here's a video:

 

[Cesar R M]

Tonka, I luv you brother, but you must have typed that after a huge bong rip.

oh dear! XD

I completely agree. For disney as a whole the guy secured the company with all the IPs he aquired. Parks though... ugh, its been a dismal 10 years and not much more of a future. He us under utilizing everything g that could make them great.

It could also means not the fault of Iger (as in primary).

It could be that the people who he trusted, failed awfully in delivering what they were expected..
Like how now he seems to be finally focusing his attention to WDW And getting his head full in on what is going on ( after the whole mymagic problem blowing the budget) .
I remember reading in this forum, on how there seems to be a serious distrust from the top executives, including Iger..to the Meg type executives for what happened at the Park Division. Where these executives were destroying the parks with cutting and slashing instead of fixing the real issues.

hence why there was a "shuffle" in leadership in parks and operations.

(edit for clarity)

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Tonka, I luv you brother, but you must have typed that after a huge bong rip.

LOL...........OK...............I guess I should have put it..................*I HOPE* Iger has seen the light!

AKK

 

[unkadug]

Has anyone seen the changes made with the lighting at the DCA version? I find it to be really awesome and hope it comes to MK. Here's a video:

That makes it more like other Dark Rides, the blacklights really do a good job in hiding what should not be seen. I don't understand why the attraction was obviously designed to be lit ultravioletly but then was lit theatrically.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

oh dear! XD




It could also means not the fault of Iger (as in primary).

It could be that the people who he trusted, failed awfully in delivering what they were expected.. like how he seems to be finally putting attention to WDW and the parks.. and getting his head full in after the whole mymagic problem blowing the budget.
I remember reading over here that there seems to be a serious distrust to the Meg type executives now. They ending cutting and slashing instead of fixing issues.



hence why there was a "shuffle" in leadership in parks and operations.

Well put Cesar and better then the way I put it.

I only differ with you in that Iger was the guy in charge.............he has the final responsibility.

AKK