What's up with Imagination?

WDWFigment

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It was called ImageWorks also. If you want to get technical, the full name of the current version downstairs is ImageWorks - The Kodak "What If" Labs.

I'd love to see ImageWorks reopen upstairs with new exhibits. I would hope that they wouldn't be like the terrible ones they currently have downstairs. Modern Rainbow Corridor, anyone? It's also too bad that The Land and The (Living?) Seas have full-service restaurants, that upstairs area at Imagination seems like a good place for one.

I think The Land and The Living Seas lend themselves more naturally to having restaurants. While I'd love to see as much as possible from Imagination!, I don't know about a restaurant for the sake of a restaurant.

...Although, reviving the Figment's Cafe theme from WDI might be kind of cool. I'm sure there is some cool concept they could come up with for a restaurant involving imagination (just no imaginary food!). Perhaps something like the black and white-to-color restaurant from the DCL?
 

mousermerf

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It could be somewhat elevated on little platforms in the atrium, sort of floating little booths, so that they overlooked the park. Then the tables could be Microsoft Surface tables - so if ou put a drink down you get a little show and you can order your food by scrolling across the options with your finger.

Could be the "Imaginative Palette" or something. Focusing on new American cuisine, maybe molecular gastronomy.
 

fyn

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Then the tables could be Microsoft Surface tables - so if ou put a drink down you get a little show and you can order your food by scrolling across the options with your finger.

The restaurant industry is one of the key markets Microsoft is pushing Surface into (we just announced its shipping this month!), so this is totally doable.
 

mousermerf

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The restaurant industry is one of the key markets Microsoft is pushing Surface into (we just announced its shipping this month!), so this is totally doable.

Well someone get on their case - i want to see it in Epcot at a restaurant.
 

comics101

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The "institute" concept is pathetic and I think they will remove it from the theme.

I would argue the concept's not a bad one, it's just poorly executed. I always thought it could be cool if the Muppets invaded the Imagination Institute. Dr. Honeydew and Beaker could give the tour, Figment could get a makeover to become a Muppet... I highly doubt that'd ever happen, so I do hope they get rid of the "institute" theme. I think it's a great idea to make the pavillion more like The Seas or The Land pavillions. As stated above, the layouts in those two pavillions are great.
 

Enigma

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I've been listening for years about a major Imagination overhaul. I'm sure it will happen eventually, so I guess if you keep saying it's coming, you'll eventually be right. However, I don't think "soon" is the word.

yea I highly doubt we will get a revamped Imagination before 2010 unfortuantly.
 

wvdisneyfamily

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I would argue the concept's not a bad one, it's just poorly executed. I always thought it could be cool if the Muppets invaded the Imagination Institute. Dr. Honeydew and Beaker could give the tour, Figment could get a makeover to become a Muppet... I highly doubt that'd ever happen, so I do hope they get rid of the "institute" theme. I think it's a great idea to make the pavillion more like The Seas or The Land pavillions. As stated above, the layouts in those two pavillions are great.

Much agreed.
 

mousermerf

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Much agreed.

Knowin that Imagination was intentionally created to not to be cold and clinical - which is the way they were feeling the rest of the park was verging on - and function as a counterpoint to the seriousness of Future World in general, I feel that choosing the laboratory setting and scientific feel of the entire pavilion was a gross error in judgment.
 

jt04

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Knowin that Imagination was intentionally created to not to be cold and clinical - which is the way they were feeling the rest of the park was verging on - and function as a counterpoint to the seriousness of Future World in general, I feel that choosing the laboratory setting and scientific feel of the entire pavilion was a gross error in judgment.

Much agreed!
 

comics101

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Knowin that Imagination was intentionally created to not to be cold and clinical - which is the way they were feeling the rest of the park was verging on - and function as a counterpoint to the seriousness of Future World in general, I feel that choosing the laboratory setting and scientific feel of the entire pavilion was a gross error in judgment.

That's true, I never thought about it in that way, but I still believe if the concept were done right it could've been a fantastic ride with a theme to the Imagination Institute...
 

Mr.EPCOT

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I had always thought that expanding the Imagination Institute theme from Honey, I Shrunk the Audience was a cute idea, and was pleasantly surprised to find that that was indeed what they were doing. But once it had come to fruition, it was definitely poorly executed.

Part of my problem with the modern EPCOT is the overbearing corporate presence that pervades in several of the pavilions. Yeah, corporate sponsorship has always been an important part of the EPCOT concept, but now it is really in your face. It seems like with Imagination, Test Track, even Mission: SPACE, and especially Innoventions you are getting sucked into a deep, dark, chaotic corporate void, if that makes any sense.
 

jt04

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I had always thought that expanding the Imagination Institute theme from Honey, I Shrunk the Audience was a cute idea, and was pleasantly surprised to find that that was indeed what they were doing. But once it had come to fruition, it was definitely poorly executed.

Part of my problem with the modern EPCOT is the overbearing corporate presence that pervades in several of the pavilions. Yeah, corporate sponsorship has always been an important part of the EPCOT concept, but now it is really in your face. It seems like with Imagination, Test Track, even Mission: SPACE, and especially Innoventions you are getting sucked into a deep, dark, chaotic corporate void, if that makes any sense.

I have always looked at Innoventions as a trade show where different companies can exhibit products. If you ask me there is not enough corporate sponsorship in the Innovention pavilions. As for the other pavilions I hardly notice the corporate sponsors. I would hardly call it overbearing. To me it would be like saying there is too much Canadian stuff in the Canada pavilion and that the Canadians are really in your face when you are there. :hammer:
 

Mr.EPCOT

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I have always looked at Innoventions as a trade show where different companies can exhibit products. If you ask me there is not enough corporate sponsorship in the Innovention pavilions. As for the other pavilions I hardly notice the corporate sponsors. I would hardly call it overbearing. To me it would be like saying there is too much Canadian stuff in the Canada pavilion and that the Canadians are really in your face when you are there. :hammer:

It's just more of a feeling, the atmosphere if you will. The physical differences between Innoventions and CommuniCore are a perfect example. CommuniCore was light, cohesive, visually pleasing, airy, well-lit, very open, with wide sweeping views of EPCOT Center, with exhibits about advanced, futuristic technology, very people-friendly, as opposed to Innoventions which is dark, enclosed, flat, loud, somewhat garish, clashing, more in-your-face, thrown-together. I don't have any problem with it being kind of a trade show, that's more or less what EPCOT is all about. I would rather see it be a much more expansive Science and Technology pavilion, even taking back some space from the west quadrants. And I would love sponsors back for The (Living?) Seas, Universe of Energy, and Wonders of Life (and just about anyone would be better than General Motors for the Transporation pavilion :p), it's just all about how they are presented.
 

jt04

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It's just more of a feeling, the atmosphere if you will. The physical differences between Innoventions and CommuniCore are a perfect example. CommuniCore was light, cohesive, visually pleasing, airy, well-lit, very open, with wide sweeping views of EPCOT Center, with exhibits about advanced, futuristic technology, very people-friendly, as opposed to Innoventions which is dark, enclosed, flat, loud, somewhat garish, clashing, more in-your-face, thrown-together. I don't have any problem with it being kind of a trade show, that's more or less what EPCOT is all about. I would rather see it be a much more expansive Science and Technology pavilion, even taking back some space from the west quadrants. And I would love sponsors back for The (Living?) Seas, Universe of Energy, and Wonders of Life (and just about anyone would be better than General Motors for the Transporation pavilion :p), it's just all about how they are presented.

I agree they have not been very well presented although I think they are working hard to change that. It would almost be better if they were dedicated pavilions. My understanding is that Innovations East will be dedicated to the environment or at least companies involved in technologies that are directly tied to the environment. I think it is a good idea. The cyber roller coaster might be a smoke screen to what is actually going there though. I would really like to see a "House of the Future" clone from DL added somewhere. All in all I give credit to those who are trying to fix Innoventions. It is a tough task.
 

Mr.EPCOT

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My understanding is that Innovations East will be dedicated to the environment or at least companies involved in technologies that are directly tied to the environment. I think it is a good idea. The cyber roller coaster might be a smoke screen to what is actually going there though. I would really like to see a "House of the Future" clone from DL added somewhere. All in all I give credit to those who are trying to fix Innoventions. It is a tough task.

That's certainly one of the rumors going around, and that could definitely be a good thing. It's a hot, relevant topic that people are interested in these days. Showing what upcoming technologies there are concerning the environment could be popular.

And as far as a House of the Future, they have the House of Innoventions, alternatively known as the House of Stuff That You Can Buy at Home Depot. Once again, they could do way better with it. What if you had a more realistic home interior, maybe with real windows looking outside into Future World?
 

Magicot

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That's certainly one of the rumors going around, and that could definitely be a good thing. It's a hot, relevant topic that people are interested in these days. Showing what upcoming technologies there are concerning the environment could be popular.

And as far as a House of the Future, they have the House of Innoventions, alternatively known as the House of Stuff That You Can Buy at Home Depot. Once again, they could do way better with it. What if you had a more realistic home interior, maybe with real windows looking outside into Future World?
I dunno, I was very impressed with the recent changes and script re-write to the House of Innoventions in I:East. The key to the front door was a savy finger-print key hole, the eco-friendly kitchen table was stylishly made of corrigated cardboard, the office and living room were both very impressive, and the garage had a fuel efficient family vehicle. I could tell that our tour filled my group with inspiration- not just 'ooh I gotta buy that!', but actual facination in our modern and future home technologies. THoI is something that many people walk right by when it's an actual hidden jem in the mish-mash that is Innoventions.
 

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