what's the bottom line for the Adventurer's club?

bjlc57

bjlc57

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So without having to ask or dig through massive amounts of pages.. All of which I have previously read..

and throughly enjoyed..

what is the bottom line for the Adventurers club.. I know that it is closed.. is there a chance that it will either re open or move and re open?

and is there any one specific thing that we can do to get it re opened?

and Lee.. I certainly respect all the work and posts that you have made about the club..

you have done a great job of keeping it in the front of the page and in people's minds..

kungaloosh..
 
MKCP 1985

MKCP 1985

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Bottom line, the club is closed and will not reopen at Downtown Disney. The Mouse decided to go in a different direction.

That is the bottom line.
 
Master Yoda

Master Yoda

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I honestly do not see AC ever opening again in either its previous or in a new form at WDW. Hong Kong however has an "Adventurers Club" opening in the near future.
 
EaglesfanNJ

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Not to get off topic, and please forgive my ignorance on the subject....

I have never been to the Adv. Club, only have seen pictures and heard stories on this website. All in all, it seems like it was a very popular attraction at Disney. If it was so popular then why did the mouse go in another direction? Pages and pages of threads on here of people expressing outrage on the closure. Constant references in peoples converstaion or signatures. Was it purely a matter of not making enough cash for them?
 
MarkTwain

MarkTwain

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EaglesfanNJ said:
Not to get off topic, and please forgive my ignorance on the subject....

I have never been to the Adv. Club, only have seen pictures and heard stories on this website. All in all, it seems like it was a very popular attraction at Disney. If it was so popular then why did the mouse go in another direction? Pages and pages of threads on here of people expressing outrage on the closure. Constant references in peoples converstaion or signatures. Was it purely a matter of not making enough cash for them?
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To put it simply, the clubs were losing money, and created an unsavory atmosphere that prevented many guests from passing between the Marketplace and West Side, and therefore not spending. So Disney shut down all the clubs, convinced they could come up with something better. The year and a half since then proves otherwise.

I'm still hoping that the Hong Kong version of AC is successful, and WDW clones it to the Polynesian or Animal Kingdom Lodge. Then adult guests leaving the Magic Kingdom or Animal Kingdom could have a little nightlife.
 
SirGoofy

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EaglesfanNJ said:
I have never been to the Adv. Club, only have seen pictures and heard stories on this website. All in all, it seems like it was a very popular attraction at Disney. If it was so popular then why did the mouse go in another direction? Pages and pages of threads on here of people expressing outrage on the closure. Constant references in peoples converstaion or signatures. Was it purely a matter of not making enough cash for them?
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PI as a whole was bleeding money, apparently, but the AC was one of the few popular and profitable(even if it was only slightly) clubs. It was truly one of those things you could only find at Disney. But instead of saving a fan favorite, Disney saw $ and decided to do a clean sweep of PI in hope 3rd party vendors would move in.
 
Cmdr_Crimson

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No More Kungaloosh For You!
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slappy magoo

slappy magoo

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SirGoofy said:
PI as a whole was bleeding money, apparently, but the AC was one of the few popular and profitable(even if it was only slightly) clubs. It was truly one of those things you could only find at Disney. But instead of saving a fan favorite, Disney saw $ and decided to do a clean sweep of PI in hope 3rd party vendors would move in.
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I honestly don't know how profitable, if at all, Adventurer's Club was. The way Pleasure Island was designed as a whole, it was almost like one club with seven or so different wings, much like the Magic Kingdom has its different and distinct lands. You had people coming to Pleasure Island to go to distinct clubs, and you had people who came to wander...and to drink. So, for example, if lots of people were coming to Pleasure Island to experience Adventurer's Club, but they were averaging 1 or 2 drinks, whereas the fewer people who went to each dance club bought more booze, which one looks better as a bottom line part of your investment (as opposed to looking better as a creative endeavor)?

My suspicions is that, as popular as AC was, you're talking about paying a lot of talent, a lot of techies to make sure the production of each short-form program went off without a hitch and the upkeep of the set and props in general, AND the bartenders and wait staff and security on top of that. I could be wrong, but I can't help but think that it was more expensive to produce that show each night than it was to produce an evening of fun at any of the music clubs, certainly the clubs that relied on DJs and prerecorded music as opposed to live entertainment.

Which is why I sadly don't see AC coming back in its original form - without the admission fees of Pleasure Island offsetting the cost of producing the show, it could only exist, if at all, as a dinner show kind of thing ala Hoop De Doo. And for a lot of fans, who were used to spending all night seeing show after show, I can imagine that not being enough.


I miss it too, though.
 
GoofyRacer11

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I heard that besides the clubs not making enough money, that there were people stirring up trouble on a regular bases. So to try to put an end to this Disney closed them down.
 
SirGoofy

SirGoofy

Member
slappy magoo said:
I honestly don't know how profitable, if at all, Adventurer's Club was. The way Pleasure Island was designed as a whole, it was almost like one club with seven or so different wings, much like the Magic Kingdom has its different and distinct lands. You had people coming to Pleasure Island to go to distinct clubs, and you had people who came to wander...and to drink. So, for example, if lots of people were coming to Pleasure Island to experience Adventurer's Club, but they were averaging 1 or 2 drinks, whereas the fewer people who went to each dance club bought more booze, which one looks better as a bottom line part of your investment (as opposed to looking better as a creative endeavor)?

My suspicions is that, as popular as AC was, you're talking about paying a lot of talent, a lot of techies to make sure the production of each short-form program went off without a hitch and the upkeep of the set and props in general, AND the bartenders and wait staff and security on top of that. I could be wrong, but I can't help but think that it was more expensive to produce that show each night than it was to produce an evening of fun at any of the music clubs, certainly the clubs that relied on DJs and prerecorded music as opposed to live entertainment.

Which is why I sadly don't see AC coming back in its original form - without the admission fees of Pleasure Island offsetting the cost of producing the show, it could only exist, if at all, as a dinner show kind of thing ala Hoop De Doo. And for a lot of fans, who were used to spending all night seeing show after show, I can imagine that not being enough.


I miss it too, though.
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From every indication from people that would know, AC was fairly profitable.:shrug:

GoofyRacer11 said:
I heard that besides the clubs not making enough money, that there were people stirring up trouble on a regular bases. So to try to put an end to this Disney closed them down.
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Again, I think this was an overblown excuse used by PI's detractor. I never encountered trouble at PI.
 

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