What's Still On and What's Now Off

[JenniferS]

That won’t be up to the guest. Don’t like it? Don’t go.

Or leave.

I’m choosing “don’t go”.
Fingers crossed for fall 2021 instead.

 

[VaderTron]

Sadly I don’t think I’ll be going back to WDW until I can actually have fun there again. Which at this point is definitely not until 2021 or 2022 at the worst earliest.

FTFY

 

[FigmentsFangirl]

That original list hasnt been updated, so Now I am curious, what has been axed, what is not, whats still being looked at for axing or keeping on the works ?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

FTFY

Nah. It’s possible things will be back to normal by Christmas time. No one knows for sure yet. No reason to think the earth will be closed for years.

 

[marni1971]

That original list hasnt been updated, so Now I am curious, what has been axed, what is not, whats still being looked at for axing or keeping on the works ?

Right now? Everything is being looked at and nothing has been decided. But I dare say any dates that have discussed so far can be discarded.

*edit - dates of projects opening, not the resort.

 

[zengoth]

I Disney seems to have a problem with telling guests no. If Disney can't grow themselves a pair and enforce the rules then this whole plan falls apart and quickly.

Not just Disney, not just theme parks, but every business that counts on customers live and in person will need to puppy up and give some tough love. Brace for bad yelp reviews but forge ahead in spite Of

 

[TrojanUSC]

Right now? Everything is being looked at and nothing has been decided. But I dare say any dates that have discussed so far can be discarded.

Dates as in reopening or attraction estimates?

 

[donsullivan]

Dates as in reopening or attraction estimates?

As it has been described to me, they have a date they are currently using as a placeholder to build a reopening plan against. Think of it as a T-Minus (where T is the Opening Date) type of plan where they chose an opening date target as a placeholder and have to map out things like 15 days before opening we need to be doing this, and 14 days before we need to have this in place and 10 days before we need to pull the trigger on that, etc.. As they get that plan developed they'll also be able to define what cast members will need to be brought back from furlough on what dates in that timeline to prepare the re-opening. Part of defining that framework is also coordination with all of their suppliers, especially for food (everything perishable was donated or disposed of) to confirm they are on track with that and able to help them restock the food pipelines based on their projected attendance numbers, etc.. They also need to confirm all of the suppliers for all of the other things it takes to operate the parks from paper cups, to ketchup are prepared to restart deliveries to keep inventories replenished. All of that defines a timeline and an activity plan for re-opening that tells them how many days they need from a Go decision to actually opening. With that plan in place, they can go forward with the placeholder date as the real date, or push the opening date as needed because they will now know the procedures and timelines for re-opening.

 

[icc2515]

But I dare say any dates that have discussed so far can be discarded.

Well I think that we have discussed just about every date from May until a vaccine has been developed. So this Tuesday?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Many of those CM's who've lost their jobs and those in periphery companies that have lost their jobs are personal friends and family members since I actually live here in Central Florida. The impact on those CM's both for the livelihood and their safety is quite personal to me.

And that’s your personal truth...and I can fully respect that. From past posts it’s obvious your circle is basically in 32830 and you really respect the operation...I get that.

But...BUT...a significant or maybe even majority of people demanding “re-opening” could care less about the WDW employees. They just don’t...or better yet they care up until the point they feel they can get “their Disney” back.

We’ve been shut in for a month...the world didn’t become altruistic in that time.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

The best way to protect guests and Cast Members would be to not open at all.

Not opening at all is certainly the best way to ensure that every former Disney CM and hospitality worker is in poverty! Anyone going to WDW knows the risks involved. It’s time they reopen.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Disney has always wanted to cut capacity at least at MK and creating a exclusive experience would be hell of a way to get there.Who will have discresionary income after this,the 10%. They have made it thru 9/11 with the locals but now with capacity being cut they will go more then ever after the 10% market share imho

They want to increase prices and sell the parks twice a day...they do not want to cut capacity and never did.

Don’t believe the hype

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying "just because there's SARS-CoV-2 RMA on a surface doesn't mean there's viable virions there."

If you follow the same precautions you follow in normal Disney trips (replete with norovirus, flu viruses from multiple continents, colds, and only-God-knows-what-else) you'll be fine. I've been to WDW many times... and I don't usually get sick during/after visits (that I can reasonably attribute to being at WDW).

You’re doing that “thing” where you are comparing this issue to all things past in a quest for normalcy....

Problem here is the “novel” part, the extended transmission and symptom windows, and how those that are infected can crash and crash quickly...

Which didn’t happen with any of those things. I wish it was SARS...because that moved so fast it burned out.

I think you’re see a very different Disney - and none of us will like it. I don’t think they can take the chance at business as usual.

We’ll see.

 

[Surferboy567]

Not opening at all is certainly the best way to ensure that every former Disney CM and hospitality worker is in poverty! Anyone going to WDW knows the risks involved. It’s time they reopen.

I understand everyone’s point about reopening...but if you don’t consider what could happen if the economy/Disney opens prematurely then your not looking at this though the right lense.

If they open up prematurely lots more people WILL contract the virus this is a fact. That can lead to a second wave which will cause the economy to close again, and lots more deaths.

This is a fact. Again, I understand wanting to get back to work but just think about it.

EDIT: Oh, and if their is some outbreak of Chronavirus at Disney...they will have a lot more problems then just closed parks.

 

[icc2515]

Not opening at all is certainly the best way to ensure that every former Disney CM and hospitality worker is in poverty! Anyone going to WDW knows the risks involved. It’s time they reopen.

According to this

Salaries at Disney Parks, Experiences and Products | Indeed.com

The average Disney Parks, Experiences and Products salary ranges from approximately $22,000 per year for Barista to $115,644 per year for Analytics and Insight Manager. Average Disney Parks, Experiences and Products hourly pay ranges from approximately $10.15 per hour for Dishwasher to $27.50...

www.indeed.com

Most are already there.

Maybe Disney should give them a bonus by letting collect the additional $600 per week through the cares act until July 31st.

 

[TrojanUSC]

As it has been described to me, they have a date they are currently using as a placeholder to build a reopening plan against. Think of it as a T-Minus (where T is the Opening Date) type of plan where they chose an opening date target as a placeholder and have to map out things like 15 days before opening we need to be doing this, and 14 days before we need to have this in place and 10 days before we need to pull the trigger on that, etc.. As they get that plan developed they'll also be able to define what cast members will need to be brought back from furlough on what dates in that timeline to prepare the re-opening. Part of defining that framework is also coordination with all of their suppliers, especially for food (everything perishable was donated or disposed of) to confirm they are on track with that and able to help them restock the food pipelines based on their projected attendance numbers, etc.. They also need to confirm all of the suppliers for all of the other things it takes to operate the parks from paper cups, to ketchup are prepared to restart deliveries to keep inventories replenished. All of that defines a timeline and an activity plan for re-opening that tells them how many days they need from a Go decision to actually opening. With that plan in place, they can go forward with the placeholder date as the real date, or push the opening date as needed because they will now know the procedures and timelines for re-opening.

They are working out "t-minus" plans as you say, but any specificity on dates is still a ways off. Nobody knows how "Phase I" of the Florida (and country) reopening will go. That must be seen before they can even have a target date. Right now we don't even have a 1/3 of the number of tests needed daily to get to Phase I.

I understand everyone’s point about reopening...but if you don’t consider what could happen if the economy/Disney opens prematurely then your not looking at this though the right lense.

If they open up prematurely lots more people WILL contract the virus this is a fact. That can lead to a second wave which will cause the economy to close again, and lots more deaths.

This is a fact. Again, I understand wanting to get back to work but just think about it.

Exactly. Everything we seem to know about this virus is that it flourishes in high density environments. Nothing is denser than theme parks.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Heck if you book certain places for certain times, you could end up staying on the monorail loop for even lower rates.

"Staying on the monorail loop" is the new euphemism for the monorail breaking down.

Even us Disney crazy fans are like.... is it fun to stay at the grand floridian if you can’t sit in the lobby and listen to the piano player? Or hang out at the pool? Or grab a coffee with your resort mug? Or whatever else you like to do.

They'll first need to get the GF ready once they're ready to open.

Exactly. Everything we seem to know about this virus is that it flourishes in high density environments. Nothing is denser than theme parks guests.

FTFY

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You could see sub $300/night rates on the monorail loop.

That’s where they should be anyway...but I digress

 

[GladToBeHear]

I understand everyone’s point about reopening...but if you don’t consider what could happen if the economy/Disney opens prematurely then your not looking at this though the right lense.

If they open up prematurely lots more people WILL contract the virus this is a fact. That can lead to a second wave which will cause the economy to close again, and lots more deaths.

This is a fact. Again, I understand wanting to get back to work but just think about it.

EDIT: Oh, and if their is some outbreak of Chronavirus at Disney...they will have a lot more problems then just closed parks.

Sorry to break it to you. More people will contract the virus. More people will die from it. There's going to be a second wave no matter what.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Everyday should be a ticketed event...

i still have a hard time thinking people will be satisfied to pay $80-100 a day for 1/4 the usualpark experience

See the problem is everyday already WAS a ticketed event...

It was insanity for people to pay extra to do the same things more than once a day 4 or more days a week...and now the curtain has been lifted on that insanity.

If they want to change the structure to block pricing - which I’ve thought for at least 10 years - just get out in the open and DO IT.