Vacationing in the sweltering summer heat in August at MK is misery.
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What's Still On and What's Now Off
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GladToBeHear
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Personally, I don't think the scenarios outlined by WDW Fan (and corroborated by others) are going to work. And if they try to implement them, that won't last long. By nature, I'm a very cyncial person. I don't think we're even going to, as a nation, abide by the three phases laid out by the government. I think the flood gates are going to open, people are going to go back to what they know (and quickly), and the potential spread of COVID-19 won't be a priority for most people. People will keep getting it. People will keep dying from it. And it will start moving down the news cycle. One thing I've learned -- never underestimate the ability of Americans to return their lives "back to normal" and forget about tragic events. We do it better than anyone. I'm not saying any of this is good or bad. But it's just my sense of how things are going to go. I don't think there's going to be a "new normal". And if there is, it won't last long. With the election coming in November, I'd be surprised if we're still talking about it (COVID-19) by the end of the summer.
All that being said -- if they do try to implement some version of this plan -- I'll just wait. This doesn't sound like a Disney vacation to me.
All that being said -- if they do try to implement some version of this plan -- I'll just wait. This doesn't sound like a Disney vacation to me.
GladToBeHear
Well-Known Member
Not saying I like it or don't like it. I just don't think it's going to work. At least, not for long. I think if they try to implement these measures, you'll see them change course VERY quickly. Just a hunch. We shall see, I guess.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
i get what you are saying. Many mega-fans will come at first because they have to go back and get a feel for disney again, but the average guests if they have to wear masks, half the attractions/shows aren’t going each day and those that are would be very reduced capacity with virtual queues etc, transportation or resort pool restrictions and many people unable to eat in their favorite restaurants because of reduced capacity...there will be a lot of people not go...yet.
They won’t go (especially if it’s not heavily discounted) and that’s the crux of the problem.
They’ll be enough. Probably more than enough.
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
I think you are correct that the more draconian measures will be relaxed with time if the parks aren’t forced to reclose.
There are two options here, both possible:
1) open with severe restrictions and loosen them as society recovers.
2) open with severe restrictions, keep them, watch society worsen as disease spreads, and watch America shut down in the fall.
No one knows which will occur. I have my suspicions but they are just that.
How much of a discount are we talking about? I don’t see anyone jumping on a plane to do this, at least for how much Disney is going charge. Even with all these restrictions there is still far to much of a fixed overhead to allow for discounts I think they need.
donsullivan
Premium Member
Those who are of this perspective are going to have to learn a hard lesson. These new rules will be firmly enforced before entry is allowed and re-enforced once you are inside the park for continued compliance. If you try to follow them to get in and ignore them once in, don't be surprised if you are escorted from the park. The rules will be clearly defined and documented and compliance will be mandatory to be in the parks.
The normal pattern of guests whining about what they do not like isn't not going to change these rules. If you are unwilling to comply then you should not plan on visiting the parks until you see Disney publish changes to the rules.
Just because you don't think it matters and will not work, doesn't matter to Disney. They are going to do what they feel is correct and that's just it. If Disney is not hard and fast on the rules they will actually lose massively more guests who are perfectly willing to go with these controls in place. People need to let go of the fact that their personal belief represents the nation as a whole- it does not. The national sentiment is that we need to go back to this slowly, not just rush in and not have controls because they are inconvenient.
I agree with you, but the problem is enforcement. Disney seems to have a problem with telling guests no. If Disney can't grow themselves a pair and enforce the rules then this whole plan falls apart and quickly. The type of people that can afford to stay in the MK resorts are not the type of people that take no for a answer. When they want something they expect it, now. 1% of the guests doing this can seems like everybody. It turns into I don't care that the pools are closed and I knew ahead of time, I told my kids that they could go in the pool what are you going to do about it. I know that the MK is only letting in 50% of the people, but my family couldn't get their stuff together on time and we showed up at 10 and it is filled to capacity I expect you to let us in. Unless Disney is willing to stand by there policies, escort rule breakers out of the park, and in extreme cases kick them off property I don't see this working. They better hire some extra guest services cast members and be willing to refund a percentage of what they are bringing in. Universal seems to be much more willing to enforce rules. I have seen them escorting more than 1 group of guests of of their parks.
Or leave.
This is another problem for them.
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
Making it even more of a chore to visit WDW than it was before will just generate negative feedback and publicity.
People are far less likely to want to deal with restrictions on vacation.
Better to keep WDW closed until there are less of them needed.
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
Also the idea that Disney (which in reality means the front line employees) would enforce all these rules all the time is laughable.
We know that doesn't happen even under the best circumstances. Trying to monitor/control that many people is always a challenge.
We know that doesn't happen even under the best circumstances. Trying to monitor/control that many people is always a challenge.
donsullivan
Premium Member
And if you genuinely feel that way (which is your right) then you should not visit during this period. Disney would much rather hear whining about strict safety controls for visiting as opposed to an outbreak that can be traced back to a Disney park.
Again, the vast majority of people are open and willing (despite what you hear in echo chambers) to comply with controls for their own safety and having those control in place will actually give them the confidence they need to make a return visit. I for one will not visit if these controls are not in place and intend to comply with whatever they put in place in order to visit.
The idea of keeping WDW closed because you don't want to deal with new safety controls is astonishingly selfish on your part. Putting these controls in place also allows those tens of thousands of cast members to go back to their jobs and all of the businesses that support the parks from food suppliers and more to go back to work as well. This is a lot more complicated than a guest whining that they don't want to follow safety guidelines to visit the parks during the transition period back to normal.
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Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
Do you have a source for this "vast majority" who would visit WDW (a very expensive and very non essential business) with strict physical distancing rules in place?
We're not talking about your local mall or movie theater. We're talking about a place that takes hours to get to (by car or plane) and months of saving up just to go at all.
Sorry. I meant the amount of people will still be enough.
And if people moan - knowing what we will have been through by then - they deserve another six month lock down.
Unless they’ve been living under a rock. Any adjustments will be publicised. It’s then up to the individual to choose to attend or not.
I’ve a feeling the mouse will have had a bit of a growth spurt if this goes ahead.
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
What if people decide "yes we can go" and then once they get there realize "this was not worth the hassle"?
Taking the attitude of "don't like it, don't go" is not going to generate much goodwill with the paying customers (whether they go or not).
Moor fool them. Maybe they should consider themselves lucky to be alive and still be able to go.