What's Next For DHS And AK??

[Spike-in-Berlin]

Well that could work out, that pad is a more buildable spot than the larger one I placed to the east of ee. What would you put in that large spot?

That will very fast turn out to be a problem. What interesting ride can you theme with Australia. Oh I am sure there are some decent animal exhibits possible. But what kind of ride or attraction? I think everyone agrees with me that an addition of only more animal exhibits would do virtually nothing to increase the number of visitors. I have two zoos in my city, both show much more species than DAK. And many other guests from large or even medium-sized cities will have the same. DAK is still a theme park, not only a zoo and I don't care about more animal exhibits, I want to see new attractions.
So what attractions could be built in Australia? The Ayers Rock Roller Coaster? The Sydney Opera House Show? Or the "Outback trail" as another animal exhibit.
I stay with my opinion, Australia might offer some interesting animals but as an entire land with interesting ride- and show-opportunities it`s feasibility is heavily overrated.

 

[nytimez]

That will very fast turn out to be a problem. What interesting ride can you theme with Australia. Oh I am sure there are some decent animal exhibits possible. But what kind of ride or attraction? I think everyone agrees with me that an addition of only more animal exhibits would do virtually nothing to increase the number of visitors. I have two zoos in my city, both show much more species than DAK. And many other guests from large or even medium-sized cities will have the same. DAK is still a theme park, not only a zoo and I don't care about more animal exhibits, I want to see new attractions.
So what attractions could be built in Australia? The Ayers Rock Roller Coaster? The Sydney Opera House Show? Or the "Outback trail" as another animal exhibit.
I stay with my opinion, Australia might offer some interesting animals but as an entire land with interesting ride- and show-opportunities it`s feasibility is heavily overrated.

Wow. That's a whole lotta ignorance in one post. Fortunately, the Imagineers wouldn't be limited to your own oversimplified vision of Australia if they ever did build a land themed to the country (but I don't think they ever will).

 

[WDWFREAK53]

That will very fast turn out to be a problem. What interesting ride can you theme with Australia. Oh I am sure there are some decent animal exhibits possible. But what kind of ride or attraction? I think everyone agrees with me that an addition of only more animal exhibits would do virtually nothing to increase the number of visitors. I have two zoos in my city, both show much more species than DAK. And many other guests from large or even medium-sized cities will have the same. DAK is still a theme park, not only a zoo and I don't care about more animal exhibits, I want to see new attractions.
So what attractions could be built in Australia? The Ayers Rock Roller Coaster? The Sydney Opera House Show? Or the "Outback trail" as another animal exhibit.
I stay with my opinion, Australia might offer some interesting animals but as an entire land with interesting ride- and show-opportunities it`s feasibility is heavily overrated.

Full Land?

Dining:
Croc-o-Bites Quick Service
Hunter Valley Winery which will have wine tastings, show how wine is made...and have a vineyard.

Attractions:
Walking Trail themed to Carnavon Gorge...and then the Lava Tubes.
Along the way you would see Emus, Koalas, Kangaroos, Platypii, dingos, etc.

Rides:
Kangaroo Hop spinner-type attraction.
Great Barrier Reef underwater adventure.
Disney-style Opera show.
Ayers Rock coaster...which would go INTO Ayers rock and discover the hidden wonders of Australian ancestry with the aboriginal markings on the inside walls...and maybe some that are there to protect the rock.

 

[dman1373]

does anyone have a reasonable guess of what they can or would do. Their not going to add all these lands to any of these places. I think that they might add 2 or 3 rides in the near future to both aniamal kingdom and hs. Like i could see at animal kingdom a new dinosaur ride based on the new pixar movie about dinosaurs. Like most of you i also could see a monsters inc. ride at hollywood studios and i also think they will replace the little mermaid attraction at hs with another 90's animated movie, because of the new ride at magic kingdom.

 

[RSoxNo1]

For those people that have suggested using existing areas first before adding an expansion, I think there are ways to improve what's currently there prior to adding an expansion. Some suggestions:

• Dinosaur: Address some of the dark spaces with either improved effects or additional dinosaurs.
• Discovery Island Trails: Add more animals to draw more people back there - this could be as well traveled as Pangani Forest or Maharajah Jungle Trek
• Kali River Rapids: While it would be a substantial addition, this attraction needs to be longer. I'd cut the track before the clear cutting scene and add more rapids and another lift hill. I also think that they should revisit the Tiger River Run concept of having animals visible from the ride, but that shouldn't be the only way to view those animals.
• Expedition Everest: Fix the Yeti and address the light leakage on the backwards portion of the ride. If possible, have the vehicle/track shake in the Yeti projection room as well
• Discovery River Boats: Drain the lake and add in features like the lochness monster and/or the kraken. This ride should feature many encounters with mythical animals.

 

[nytimez]

Kali River Rapids: While it would be a substantial addition, this attraction needs to be longer. I'd cut the track before the clear cutting scene and add more rapids and another lift hill. I also think that they should revisit the Tiger River Run concept of having animals visible from the ride, but that shouldn't be the only way to view those animals.

I think one of the problems with the Tiger River Run concept is that it's not so great for the animals to have boatloads of screaming tourists zoom past them every 30 seconds. I'm guessing it's something the AZA would also frown upon.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I think one of the problems with the Tiger River Run concept is that it's not so great for the animals to have boatloads of screaming tourists zoom past them every 30 seconds. I'm guessing it's something the AZA would also frown upon.

What about truck loads of screaming tourists? If anything, they should have the tiger (or other animal portion) on a calm part of the river.

On to real Animal Kingdom news, it looks like the new baby elephant is already out on the Savannah.

At less than two weeks old, our new baby elephant, Jabali, already is being introduced to the savanna at Disney’s Animal Kingdom. This is great news for our guests who might catch a glimpse of him when they experience the Kilimanjaro Safaris, and a great accomplishment for both our animal care team and our elephants.

When our first baby elephant, Tufani, was born in 2003, he spent several months in his backstage home with his mom before joining the herd on the savanna. The animal care team had much work to do introducing him to the rest of the herd. After all, he was the very first baby for the group.

Jabali is our sixth baby elephant born at Disney’s Animal Kingdom, so now introductions are much easier. Our elephant team members explain that highly intelligent animals like elephants learn a lot from experience and each other (with great care and training from the team too, of course). So, for example, when Jabali was being introduced to the herd’s matriarch Rafiki, if you could read the bubble over her head, it might say, “I know exactly what you are—and welcome to the family!”

Facts about our elephants:

•Our elephant herd has 12 members.
•Six baby elephants (Tufani, Kianga, Nadirah, Tsavo, Luna and Jabali) have been born at Disney’s Animal Kingdom.
•Disney’s Animal Kingdom is part of a breeding program coordinated by the Association of Zoos and Aquariums www.AZA.org that is focused on sustaining the elephant population in North America.
•The Disney Worldwide Conservation Fund and the Disney Foundation have directed over $1 million to projects in 20 countries to help protect and conserve elephants in the wild.

http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/bl...s-herd-on-savanna-at-disney’s-animal-kingdom/

 

[pppapazo]

I think one of the problems with the Tiger River Run concept is that it's not so great for the animals to have boatloads of screaming tourists zoom past them every 30 seconds. I'm guessing it's something the AZA would also frown upon.

Tiger River Run was originally going to be a much more slowly paced ride, with forward-facing boats instead of the more common round theme park rafts. If there was a rapids section, I'd imagine it would have been fairly isolated.

Does anyone know if budget was the sole factor in changing Tiger River Run to Kali River Rapids? Or did they find that there were more difficulties with presenting animal viewing areas from a boat than a jeep?

 

[Spike-in-Berlin]

Wow. That's a whole lotta ignorance in one post. Fortunately, the Imagineers wouldn't be limited to your own oversimplified vision of Australia if they ever did build a land themed to the country (but I don't think they ever will).

That's quite a lot of disrespectfullness in one post, especially from someone who just joined. Fortunately most users at WDWmagic do accept other opinions and points of view without becoming rude. Perhaps you will learn that too (but I don't think you will)

 

[drew81]

For those people that have suggested using existing areas first before adding an expansion, I think there are ways to improve what's currently there prior to adding an expansion. Some suggestions:

• Dinosaur: Address some of the dark spaces with either improved effects or additional dinosaurs.
• Discovery Island Trails: Add more animals to draw more people back there - this could be as well traveled as Pangani Forest or Maharajah Jungle Trek
• Kali River Rapids: While it would be a substantial addition, this attraction needs to be longer. I'd cut the track before the clear cutting scene and add more rapids and another lift hill. I also think that they should revisit the Tiger River Run concept of having animals visible from the ride, but that shouldn't be the only way to view those animals.
• Expedition Everest: Fix the Yeti and address the light leakage on the backwards portion of the ride. If possible, have the vehicle/track shake in the Yeti projection room as well
• Discovery River Boats: Drain the lake and add in features like the lochness monster and/or the kraken. This ride should feature many encounters with mythical animals.

Excellent ideas! You should be in management.

 

[nytimez]

That's quite a lot of disrespectfullness in one post, especially from someone who just joined. Fortunately most users at WDWmagic do accept other opinions and points of view without becoming rude. Perhaps you will learn that too (but I don't think you will)

Sorry, but it doesn't matter when I joined. You spoke out of ignorance, and it's not rude to point it out. It's rude to let it go unchallenged. You dismissed a country -- and a continent -- in a single post.

I happily accept the opinions and views of others. I will not accept base stereotypes.

 

[nytimez]

What about truck loads of screaming tourists? If anything, they should have the tiger (or other animal portion) on a calm part of the river.

I've never seen people screaming on Kilimanjaro Safaris. People do on Kali, though, because even when they're not about to get wet they think they might -- it's the nature of the ride and the fact that some people will not be facing forward, so they don't know if they're about to get splashed.

But to respond to what another poster said, if it's a calmer ride with forward-facing boats it could work if the animal-viewing issues are solvable (not a given considering the nature of water rides)... but a forward-facing boat would also remove many of the rapids-style thrills that the ride currently offers.

 

[Spike-in-Berlin]

Sorry, but it doesn't matter when I joined. You spoke out of ignorance, and it's not rude to point it out. It's rude to let it go unchallenged. You dismissed a country -- and a continent -- in a single post.

I happily accept the opinions and views of others. I will not accept base stereotypes.

Just as I wrote, you will not learn. And actually I couldn't care less what you accept and what not.

 

[menamechris]

Sorry, but it doesn't matter when I joined. You spoke out of ignorance, and it's not rude to point it out. It's rude to let it go unchallenged. You dismissed a country -- and a continent -- in a single post.

I happily accept the opinions and views of others. I will not accept base stereotypes.

How is it ignorant, rude, or dismissing of a country (and continent) to say that it may not translate well into a theme park? Really?

 

[nytimez]

Just as I wrote, you will not learn. And actually I couldn't care less what you accept and what not.

To the contrary, you seem to care quite a bit. And the fact that you'll just declare repeatedly that I "won't learn" shows how quick you are to rush to judgement based on so little information.

How is it ignorant, rude, or dismissing of a country (and continent) to say that it may not translate well into a theme park? Really?

I think it's pretty ignorant -- because you're basically saying the entire country and its cultures (both the modern culture and that of the ancient Aboriginal peoples) don't have enough interesting things in it to support a couple of rides and a show or two.

And the fact that he had to throw out a few examples lifted out of tourist brochures shows that level of ignorance.

I would give equal treatment to an Australian (or anyone else) who said, for example, that an "America land" couldn't be interesting because all s/he could think of for it would be Mt Rushmore and McDonald's.

 

[_Scar]

To the contrary, you seem to care quite a bit. And the fact that you'll just declare repeatedly that I "won't learn" shows how quick you are to rush to judgement based on so little information.



I think it's pretty ignorant -- because you're basically saying the entire country and its cultures (both the modern culture and that of the ancient Aboriginal peoples) don't have enough interesting things in it to support a couple of rides and a show or two.

And the fact that he had to throw out a few examples lifted out of tourist brochures shows that level of ignorance.

I would give equal treatment to an Australian (or anyone else) who said, for example, that an "America land" couldn't be interesting because all s/he could think of for it would be Mt Rushmore and McDonald's.

Saying that Australia could not support a land on its own is absolutely spot on and is a valid opinion. Just like you have your opinion. Don't rush to such conclusions and try to start a fight on here. This is so exaggerated that I don't have a decent comeback :lol:

 

[ctxak98]

I KNOW a LOT of people do not like the ride dinosaur for various reasons whether it be too bumpy,dark,jerky,or even scary and loud. Getting rid of this ride would be one of the worst things Disney could do to the park. Disney does not have many scary thrill rides and this might be one of disneys most unique rides. The DARK spaces in the ride are used as a mysterious feeling of what is aorund you....to me thats scarier than seeing what actually is there. Many of us have forgotten the thrill aspect of it because we know when everything is going to happen but for first time riders....thats ride can make you so shakey by the tme you get off you can barely move! lol:lol:

 

[nytimez]

Saying that Australia could not support a land on its own is absolutely spot on and is a valid opinion. Just like you have your opinion. Don't rush to such conclusions and try to start a fight on here. This is so exaggerated that I don't have a decent comeback :lol:

Saying Australia can't support a land is saying you know everything there is to know about Australia and can't find anything worth building a couple of attractions over.

 

[Spike-in-Berlin]

I KNOW a LOT of people do not like the ride dinosaur for various reasons whether it be too bumpy,dark,jerky,or even scary and loud. Getting rid of this ride would be one of the worst things Disney could do to the park. Disney does not have many scary thrill rides and this might be one of disneys most unique rides. The DARK spaces in the ride are used as a mysterious feeling of what is aorund you....to me thats scarier than seeing what actually is there. Many of us have forgotten the thrill aspect of it because we know when everything is going to happen but for first time riders....thats ride can make you so shakey by the tme you get off you can barely move! lol:lol:

You have to remember that Dinosaur or CTE was meant to be a MAJOR attraction in DAK from the beginning on, an E-Ticket that was planned to be at least as successful as IJA, as it copies track layout and ride technology of that DL superheadliner. But somehow Dinosaur was never the big success it was planned to be. I have to admit I didn't even do it during my last stay for some of the reasons you mentioned but the major reason was that I found it boring, so underwhelming compared to IJA.

 

[menamechris]

Saying Australia can't support a land is saying you know everything there is to know about Australia and can't find anything worth building a couple of attractions over.

The purpose of adding it to a theme park is that there is enough obvious knowledge and/or "stereotypes" (if you so choose to call it that) to make it an interesting enough idea for people to make a trip to go see it. This is a theme park entertainment business - not a history center or museum. If the idea or concept alone is not going to bring people in AK who otherwise wouldn't - there is no reason to pursue the idea and dump millions of dollars into it.