What planet would you replace Batuu at Disneyland?

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truecoat

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I’m in favor of removing the Sequel Trilogy timeline for Batuu and just make it all relevant for all Star Wars movies. Besides, Hondo has nothing to do with Sequel Trilogy. Why should he be there over Han Solo? This coaxium storyline is actually pre-original trilogy in the failed Solo movie. Why they are referencing a pre-original trilogy movie in sequel trilogy Batuu is a disconnect no one talks about. Maybe Galaxy’s Edge should be advertised as Disney Star Wars, no George Lucas.

Maybe you're on to something. Decided to make the Falcon ride from the Solo movie and use that actor in the preshow but the movie tanks and Lucasfilm/Disney goes a different way. Probably too late into the design phase for this to happen.
 

Professortango1

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I’m in favor of removing the Sequel Trilogy timeline for Batuu and just make it all relevant for all Star Wars movies. Besides, Hondo has nothing to do with Sequel Trilogy. Why should he be there over Han Solo? This coaxium storyline is actually pre-original trilogy in the failed Solo movie. Why they are referencing a pre-original trilogy movie in sequel trilogy Batuu is a disconnect no one talks about. Maybe Galaxy’s Edge should be advertised as Disney Star Wars, no George Lucas.

Han Solo is dead. Hondo works as an original character or an Easter Egg, depending on your familiarity with Star Wars; either way he works.
 

TROR

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Han Solo is dead. Hondo works as an original character or an Easter Egg, depending on your familiarity with Star Wars; either way he works.
Do you remember getting a multiple choice question on a test as a kid and it would say "choose the best answer" and then there'd be two answers that were both technically right but one was clearly the right answer? Hondo is the technically right answer to this multiple choice question. It technically works, but it doesn't work the best.
 

Professortango1

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Do you remember getting a multiple choice question on a test as a kid and it would say "choose the best answer" and then there'd be two answers that were both technically right but one was clearly the right answer? Hondo is the technically right answer to this multiple choice question. It technically works, but it doesn't work the best.

I don't want a dead character hosting my ride. That doesn't work as well.
 

Professortango1

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He works according to who. No one knows him. I already pointed out the timeline discrepancy.

Then the Haunted Mansion should be gone.

What discrepancy?

And Haunted Mansion is a very different attraction than Smuggler's Run.

It would be very odd to join Han Solo on an adventure when so many of us know him as the old crabby father to Kylo Ren who was killed in the first film. Hondo is your generic Star Wars side character. Works perfectly fine. He's not the problem with the ride. There's plenty of actual problems.
 

TROR

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I don't want a dead character hosting my ride. That doesn't work as well.
I didn’t say it had to be Han Solo. He doesn’t work best in this situation because, as you said, he’s dead. It shouldn’t be someone who has no relation to the Falcon, though. That’s dumb. It needs to be someone we associate with the Falcon, like Rey and Chewbacca. Really, why isn’t it an animatronic of Daisy Ridley?
 

Professortango1

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I didn’t say it had to be Han Solo. He doesn’t work best in this situation because, as you said, he’s dead. It shouldn’t be someone who has no relation to the Falcon, though. That’s dumb. It needs to be someone we associate with the Falcon, like Rey and Chewbacca. Really, why isn’t it an animatronic of Daisy Ridley?

Human AA's look odd, and why would Rey be having us smuggle items? She'd likely be having us join the Resistance, which is the basis for the other attraction. Chewie doesn't speak English. Having an alien character allows for a great looking AA and having it be an actor in make up for the screen scenes. Works wonderfully.
 

LanceQ

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Human AA's look odd, and why would Rey be having us smuggle items? She'd likely be having us join the Resistance, which is the basis for the other attraction. Chewie doesn't speak English. Having an alien character allows for a great looking AA and having it be an actor in make up for the screen scenes. Works wonderfully.

Took the words right out of my slightly creepy looking animatronic mouth.
 

TROR

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Human AA's look odd, and why would Rey be having us smuggle items? She'd likely be having us join the Resistance, which is the basis for the other attraction. Chewie doesn't speak English. Having an alien character allows for a great looking AA and having it be an actor in make up for the screen scenes. Works wonderfully.
Smuggling items is a stupid plot to begin with. It should be we join the Resistance. The entire land should be about the Resistance. They’re the good guys. Bad guys, like pirates and First Order, should only be on the losing side of stories in Disneyland. Also human AAs don’t look weird - I’ve already referenced Lincoln to counter this very point.
 

DanielBB8

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What discrepancy?

And Haunted Mansion is a very different attraction than Smuggler's Run.

It would be very odd to join Han Solo on an adventure when so many of us know him as the old crabby father to Kylo Ren who was killed in the first film. Hondo is your generic Star Wars side character. Works perfectly fine. He's not the problem with the ride. There's plenty of actual problems.
I already pointed out the coaxium smuggling storyline was from the recent failed SOLO movie. No one will mistake the ride was pre-Original Trilogy unless they haven't seen SOLO. Thus proof no one knows anything about it including you.

You said it, not me. (about dead hosts).

If you want generic Star Wars characters, there are plenty others to choose from. Hondo is a mystery for most people. It cements the pre-Original Trilogy timeline because he's a Clone Wars character that also pre-dates the Original Trilogy.

Yes, there's plenty of problems that continues with the timeline that I just pointed out.
 

Professortango1

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I already pointed out the coaxium smuggling storyline was from the recent failed SOLO movie. No one will mistake the ride was pre-Original Trilogy unless they haven't seen SOLO. Thus proof no one knows anything about it including you.

You said it, not me. (about dead hosts).

If you want generic Star Wars characters, there are plenty others to choose from. Hondo is a mystery for most people. It cements the pre-Original Trilogy timeline because he's a Clone Wars character that also pre-dates the Original Trilogy.

Yes, there's plenty of problems that continues with the timeline that I just pointed out.

Coaxium was a plot element from Solo, sure.... But that doesn't mean Coaxium is only around in that timeline. Its an energy source. I don't see modern characters talking about gasoline and say "That doesn't make any sense! Gasoline was referenced in a movie set 100 years ago and the character doesn't look anywhere near that old!"

Ghost Host is different than an adventure attraction staring a character who dies in the first film of the series.
 

Professortango1

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Smuggling items is a stupid plot to begin with. It should be we join the Resistance. The entire land should be about the Resistance. They’re the good guys. Bad guys, like pirates and First Order, should only be on the losing side of stories in Disneyland. Also human AAs don’t look weird - I’ve already referenced Lincoln to counter this very point.

Lincoln looks like a robotic figure. I'd never think that he was the actual Lincoln. And that issue is deepened when a human that we are incredibly familiar with is mimicked in robotic form. We only know Lincoln roughly from old portraits and such, we haven't seen him on a 100 foot screen for hours upon hours.

And it would be silly to have two attractions tied into joining the Restistance. Star Wars is partly a western, and the appeal of many westerns is becoming an outlaw. Smugglers Run works perfectly in that respect. There's a reason Disney sold toy muskets and pirate gear at the exit of PotC. We all wanted to be pirates like the protagonists of the ride.
 

DanielBB8

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Coaxium was a plot element from Solo, sure.... But that doesn't mean Coaxium is only around in that timeline. Its an energy source. I don't see modern characters talking about gasoline and say "That doesn't make any sense! Gasoline was referenced in a movie set 100 years ago and the character doesn't look anywhere near that old!"

Ghost Host is different than an adventure attraction staring a character who dies in the first film of the series.
But they use HONDO!!! I already said this. Hondo is a Clone Wars character from a series that few seen, but it is clear what they are aiming for. Thus the timeline is actually pre-Original Trilogy for the Millennium Falcon ride while Batuu is Sequel Trilogy.

Ghost Host is different because nothing is wrong with using characters that might have died. Han Solo is still relevant in the Original Trilogy.
 

LanceQ

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I already pointed out the coaxium smuggling storyline was from the recent failed SOLO movie. No one will mistake the ride was pre-Original Trilogy unless they haven't seen SOLO. Thus proof no one knows anything about it including you.

You said it, not me. (about dead hosts).

If you want generic Star Wars characters, there are plenty others to choose from. Hondo is a mystery for most people. It cements the pre-Original Trilogy timeline because he's a Clone Wars character that also pre-dates the Original Trilogy.

Yes, there's plenty of problems that continues with the timeline that I just pointed out.

Your nitpicks are nonsensical. It's not pre-OT, Hondo is just old And coaxium, though it was introduced in "Solo", is obviously a very valuable item that would still exist decades later. It's literally "hyperfuel" and would always be a needed resource by everyone in the SW universe. If you haven't seen "Solo", it doesn't matter. Hondo could just easily have said, "We're after precious Slkdjlad rods!" But why not use something that's been established if you can? Why not dip into the lore?

Which is why they used Hondo. Hondo is clearly new to most people, but you obviously don't have to have seen Clone Wars to "get" the ride. You don't need any pre-knowledge of Hondo to understand his role and his character, it's all in the ride. If you happen to be a super fan, it's an easter egg. If not, no problem.
 

TROR

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Lincoln looks like a robotic figure. I'd never think that he was the actual Lincoln. And that issue is deepened when a human that we are incredibly familiar with is mimicked in robotic form. We only know Lincoln roughly from old portraits and such, we haven't seen him on a 100 foot screen for hours upon hours.

And it would be silly to have two attractions tied into joining the Restistance. Star Wars is partly a western, and the appeal of many westerns is becoming an outlaw. Smugglers Run works perfectly in that respect. There's a reason Disney sold toy muskets and pirate gear at the exit of PotC. We all wanted to be pirates like the protagonists of the ride.
Ultimately I don't care; I don't think the Falcon can ever properly work. It was doomed from conception.
 

LanceQ

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Smuggling items is a stupid plot to begin with. It should be we join the Resistance. The entire land should be about the Resistance. They’re the good guys. Bad guys, like pirates and First Order, should only be on the losing side of stories in Disneyland. Also human AAs don’t look weird - I’ve already referenced Lincoln to counter this very point.

You must have missed the ten times in the ride that Hondo says our mission is directly benefitting the Resistance.

And, even in the Manichaen Star Wars universe, there have always been characters that fall in the middle. Han Solo was one at the beginning of the first movie. It's a fun part of the universe to explore. Kids have always loved being bad guys.

Does everything have to be "It's A Small World"?
 

Professortango1

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But they use HONDO!!! I already said this. Hondo is a Clone Wars character from a series that few seen, but it is clear what they are aiming for. Thus the timeline is actually pre-Original Trilogy for the Millennium Falcon ride while Batuu is Sequel Trilogy.

Ghost Host is different because nothing is wrong with using characters that might have died. Han Solo is still relevant in the Original Trilogy.

Yes, but the Original Trilogy is barely relevant anymore and will only continue to be more irrelevant. As for Hondo, he was in the Clone Wars show. He's an alien. How long do Aliens live? Well, considering Chewy has been around since the Clone Wars as well, I'd say it depends upon the Alien. No issue with the timeline.

Nothing is wrong with using characters that might have died if you're doing a ghost-based attraction. Pretty sure it'd be weird to have Uncle Ben be our main character in a Spider Man attraction.
 
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