What I think...as of today...for now...

Captain Chaos

Captain Chaos

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inluvwithbeast said:
Go me! I need a trophy...
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Lee

Lee

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jt04 said:
I know Steve kept deleting something. But honestly I'm not sure where I saw them but I know for a fact they got posted. That is the leak that started it all not the transmorgified ones. The original leaker is the culprit the mouse seeks.
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The prints Steve deleted were the ones that originated from Stitch Kingdom, and are the ones I posted a few pages ago. (Ask Steve if you don't believe me.)
They were the original leaked plans, followed by the drainage plans.
I say again, any other versions are just fan-made variations.
The ones you say you saw (Dumbo south, no ride in PH) don't exist in any form other than fan-made.

wm49rs said:
No, you don't have and therefore can't post it, or even prove what you saw exists. Lee has seen them, perhaps even has physical possession of them, but for legal and professional reasons cannot bring them forth. Give this one a rest.
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Exactly.
The ones I have came from two very kind folks who asked that they not be posted. They did not exist at the time of the original leaks.
 
mickey2008.1

mickey2008.1

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wow, three days later and still the jt noshow of blue prints. He can eat my yellow snow. Anywho, anybody know anything useful for the last week? And i dont want to see a pic of metal things in the dirt. Anything pertanent to the new skaggs view.
 
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wdwfan94

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Lee, a couple of guys on micechat are saying that the SWSA replacement ride could be a ride based on Tangled, Burtons Alice in Wonderland, Burton's Malifecent movie, or a ride that is changed whenever a new Disney animated movie comes out. Do you know anything about this?
 
DocMcHulk

DocMcHulk

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wdwfan94 said:
Lee, a couple of guys on micechat are saying that the SWSA replacement ride could be a ride based on Tangled, Burtons Alice in Wonderland, Burton's Malifecent movie, or a ride that is changed whenever a new Disney animated movie comes out. Do you know anything about this?
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WDI is in lock down mode right now it would seem. Even some info I was given was very carefully phrased and rather obtuse.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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wdwfan94 said:
Lee, a couple of guys on micechat are saying that the SWSA replacement ride could be a ride based on Tangled, Burtons Alice in Wonderland, Burton's Malifecent movie, or a ride that is changed whenever a new Disney animated movie comes out. Do you know anything about this?
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I would not expect a "ride" in that location when the rest of Fantasyland opens.
 
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Brian Noble

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"as far as he knows"
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There's this thing called Occam's Razor. Simplified: if there are several possible explanations for some situation, the simplest one is usually the right one.

So, one possible explanation for the situation of "they existed on the internet once, but now no one can find them" is that, somehow, every single copy of them, everywhere in the world-wide internet, was somehow found and squelched. This is despite the fact that large swaths of the internet are outside any legal jurisdiction that Disney might bring to bear. This is also despite the fact that a nontrivial subset of the Disneyana fan base archives every scrap of information that has ever been known to exist about the expansion. And, this is also despite the fact that information in general is really hard to get back once it gets out.

The second explanation is jt is honestly mistaken.

One of these is a pretty simple explanation. The other is vanishingly improbable. I'll leave it as an excercise to the reader to determine which is which.
 
Lee

Lee

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wdwfan94 said:
Lee, a couple of guys on micechat are saying that the SWSA replacement ride could be a ride based on Tangled, Burtons Alice in Wonderland, Burton's Malifecent movie, or a ride that is changed whenever a new Disney animated movie comes out. Do you know anything about this?
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Nope. Honestly, as far as I know they haven't planned that far ahead.
Putting a new ride in that space is way down on the list of things to do.

AtHomeBoy_2000 said:
WDI is in lock down mode right now it would seem.
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Very true.

RSoxNo1 said:
I would not expect a "ride" in that location when the rest of Fantasyland opens.
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Yep.

Brian Noble said:
The second explanation is jt is honestly mistaken.
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That's what I've been saying...
Oddly, he has trouble with that one.
 
jt04

jt04

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Brian Noble said:
There's this thing called Occam's Razor. Simplified: if there are several possible explanations for some situation, the simplest one is usually the right one.

So, one possible explanation for the situation of "they existed on the internet once, but now no one can find them" is that, somehow, every single copy of them, everywhere in the world-wide internet, was somehow found and squelched. This is despite the fact that large swaths of the internet are outside any legal jurisdiction that Disney might bring to bear. This is also despite the fact that a nontrivial subset of the Disneyana fan base archives every scrap of information that has ever been known to exist about the expansion. And, this is also despite the fact that information in general is really hard to get back once it gets out.

The second explanation is jt is honestly mistaken.

One of these is a pretty simple explanation. The other is vanishingly improbable. I'll leave it as an excercise to the reader to determine which is which.
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Lee says he has a copy. I assume someone sent it to him electronically. Now I know leehisownself has special status in the world of the insiders but I think it highly improbable he was the only recepient and that it was leaked just for him.

So, I could be wrong that it was ever on this site but I clearly remember seeing the print Lee admits exists. How would I have known for a fact it existed if it didn't? I especially remember the slightly modified raceway conforming to Dumbo and the PH area.

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Lee

Lee

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jt04 said:
Lee says he has a copy. I assume someone sent it to him electronically. Now I know leehisownself has special status in the world of the insiders but I think it highly improbable he was the only recepient and that it was leaked just for him.
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There is quite a difference between "sent to him electronically" and something being leaked onto the internet for public viewing.
If they were ever posted anywhere...you could find them.

jt04 said:
I especially remember the slightly modified raceway conforming to Dumbo and the PH area.
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See...there's the thing...
No official Disney print has ever shown a modified Speedway. Altering the track there has never been the plan, and has never been illustrated either in blueprint or concept art form.
If you saw a changed Speedway.....fan edit.
 
jt04

jt04

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Lee said:
There is quite a difference between "sent to him electronically" and something being leaked onto the internet for public viewing.
If they were ever posted anywhere...you could find them.


See...there's the thing...
No official Disney print has ever shown a modified Speedway. Altering the track there has never been the plan, and has never been illustrated either in blueprint or concept art form.
If you saw a changed Speedway.....fan edit.
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There is always the possibility the Dumbo area was so cleverly placed the it makes it appear the track was modified around it. That may be what I saw. Speaking of the raceway, do you know what the construction walls that just went up at the raceway are for?
 

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