What are you most excited about from D23 2017?

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DAR1974

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In a way I'm excited for it all. Maybe a Minnie Van announcement isn't the sexiest thing. And it might not all work but I'll applaud Disney for swinging for the fences
 
21stamps

21stamps

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Lets Respect said:
That's a good point. Neutral is good. Very good. I mean, that was Walt's whole point right? Rides that families could ride and enjoy together. I'm not sure a lot of this new stuff would qualify as that anymore.
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I agree. I look at it like this.. you see so many girls in their princess dresses, either from BBB or their parents fix them up themselves.. but there is sooo many of them. I can't even count how many times I've been in an elevator with one...just at the resort.

Boys have Pirates, sure., but generally a pirate isn't the same level of adoration for a boy as a girl has for her favorite princess. I think that's why you don't see as many boys dressed up as one.

BUT- Star Wars and Marvel - That is a comparable level. Boys have all of the toys, bedding, room decorations.. just like the little girls have of their princesses.

I've said this several times, sorry to repeat it again...
The first (and only) time I ever saw a look of pure wonder and amazement on my child's face, is the first time he saw a Stormtrooper at HS.

Once Disney decided to go princess heavy they kind of alienated young boys after toddler years..

A SW or Marvel character is the Cinderella/Elsa equivalent for a lot of boys. I think Disney needs that.
 
Daveeeeed

Daveeeeed

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jyn erso said:
TRON: Legacy was not a bomb. It didn't do as well as Disney hoped, but it didn't bomb.

Budget: $170 million
Box office: $400.1 million

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tron:_Legacy
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It was close to breaking even though! The crazy thing is, it wasn't very good at all. Yes, it's technically a sequel, but it can be easily argued that it was a new and fresh franchise. For not having massive name recognition (like Marvel for instance), and bad reviews Disney should have been very pleased. If it had great reviews it would have easily topped 550M.
 
Daveeeeed

Daveeeeed

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Lets Respect said:
I don't know but if I want this much superheroes and action movies, I'll go to Universal where I don't have to deal with Fastpass+!
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But Disney does not want you to do that... That's the reason why they are doing it.

I really do think that in the late 2020's we'll see a few original rides again. Right now, they just have to compete with Universal.
 
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Lets Respect

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21stamps said:
I agree. I look at it like this.. you see so many girls in their princess dresses, either from BBB or their parents fix them up themselves.. but there is sooo many of them. I can't even count how many times I've been in an elevator with one...just at the resort.

Boys have Pirates, sure., but generally a pirate isn't the same level of adoration for a boy as a girl has for her favorite princess. I think that's why you don't see as many boys dressed up as one.

BUT- Star Wars- That is a comparable level. Boys have all of the toys, bedding, room decorations.. just like the little girls have of their princesses.

I've said this several times, sorry to repeat it again...
The first time I ever saw a look of pure wonder and amazement on my child's face, is the first time he saw a Stormtrooper at HS.

A SW or Marvel character is the Cinderella/Elsa equivalent for a lot of boys. I think Disney needs that.
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That's what SWL will be. Which is good and that was a natural expansion in that park with the SW stuff that was already there.

Now it just seems like overload. And maybe more importantly, missing the middle ground, not just the little girls or the action-seekers, but the people in the middle.
 
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Lets Respect

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David2319 said:
But Disney does not want you to do that... That's the reason why they are doing it.

I really do think that in the late 2020's we'll see a few original rides again. Right now, they just have to compete with Universal.
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Maybe they got spooked by the Nintendo Land rumors as well.

I don't like the Universal parks but if we want to do that kind of stuff, I'm happy to spend a few days there, stay onsite, get Express Pass and/or early entry.
 
freesvoice

freesvoice

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Spike-in-Berlin said:
I have to confess I am a little overwhelmed by the number of announcements and the magnitude of the changes. I so far never experienced such a massive barrage of announcements by DISNEY at any time. This is partially at least what we hoped for for a long time. Although not every anouncement thrills me, at least a LOT is happening and it is overwhelming (perhaps bcs. we were expecting not much). I will write more later...
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Are this many announcements normal for the expo? Haven't been around (online) for any previous events of this nature.
 
Disney4family

Disney4family

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Can someone explain some of this to me - the new Future World spine? Are there walkways over the lagoon now? Mouse Gear is surrounded by trees? Sorry to bother you. Thank you in advance for any insight.

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becca_

becca_

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freesvoice said:
Are this many announcements normal for the expo? Haven't been around (online) for any previous events of this nature.
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2015 - major announcements: toy story land, star wars land, sunset safari rides on Kilimanjaro, enhancements to Star Tours & other SW related stuff for DHS, RoL details, details on Pandora, and Soarin' Around the World (I think that was it)
 
Dapper Dan

Dapper Dan

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xdan0920 said:
This sounds fantastic. And if it was 1988, I think we'd have a shot at this type of idea happening. 2017 though, no chance they add a new attraction like that independent of a ready made IP. So, knowing the Disney "world" we live in now, I am just happy they got close. Rat may not be a perfect fit, but it's as close as we are likely to get.
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Why wouldn't this work in 2017? The last two non-ip rides we got were Soarin' and Everest and as we all know, those were huge disappointments.
 
Maeryk

Maeryk

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21stamps said:
I agree. I look at it like this.. you see so many girls in their princess dresses, either from BBB or their parents fix them up themselves.. but there is sooo many of them. I can't even count how many times I've been in an elevator with one...just at the resort.

Boys have Pirates, sure., but generally a pirate isn't the same level of adoration for a boy as a girl has for her favorite princess. I think that's why you don't see as many boys dressed up as one.

BUT- Star Wars and Marvel - That is a comparable level. Boys have all of the toys, bedding, room decorations.. just like the little girls have of their princesses.

I've said this several times, sorry to repeat it again...
The first (and only) time I ever saw a look of pure wonder and amazement on my child's face, is the first time he saw a Stormtrooper at HS.

Once Disney decided to go princess heavy they kind of alienated young boys after toddler years..

A SW or Marvel character is the Cinderella/Elsa equivalent for a lot of boys. I think Disney needs that.
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I don't actually agree with that. Most of MK is still not "princess heavy". They have actually been working away from it.. (replacing Snow with 7DMT). Most of the overtly princess stuff is character meets (story time with belle counts as such) but Beast is the focus of BOG. Arielle is the only blatantly "princess' thing in MK I can think of that's recent. Much of the rest of the park is non gender specific.

Also, you'll notice virtually all the new princesses appear with their consorts (when they have them.. Brave, obviously, does not have one), but they attempt to present both sides of the equation, if/when they have them.
 
Maeryk

Maeryk

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Dapper Dan said:
Why wouldn't this work in 2017? The last two non-ip rides we got were Soarin' and Everest and as we all know, those were huge disappointments.
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Soarin is still awesome, doubly so after the refilm. Everest still rocks, but once the Yeti is fixed, it will be stellar.
 

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