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"We Will Win" signs posted over Universal Orlando
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Disney4648
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Rob, why would Lockheed Martin buy land in Orlando? To test its jets a MCO? Very weird move.
Testtrack321
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I got into a 20 plus page thread about D vs. U in another board, so I know where everything comes from. Disney is lowering their standard (MKTiggerman). But this happened in the 80's before Esiner moved in (the good one). Noe E$iner (c) is about to leave in the next year (rumors), expect these standards to rise.
Now to the "Big U". They are trying. But as one family told us at AKL, U hires D "rejects". Plus, the one thing E$iner hates than WDI and Baxter, is a competitor. So if Universal goes up high (close to DL), expect huge remorms. They are striding right now. E$iner will drop out soon in the race, and a new sprinter will come. He will fix the parks up nice, stride, then a new CEO will come.
Now to the "Big U". They are trying. But as one family told us at AKL, U hires D "rejects". Plus, the one thing E$iner hates than WDI and Baxter, is a competitor. So if Universal goes up high (close to DL), expect huge remorms. They are striding right now. E$iner will drop out soon in the race, and a new sprinter will come. He will fix the parks up nice, stride, then a new CEO will come.
>>>I got into a 20 plus page thread about D vs. U in another board, so I know where everything comes from.<<<
Where was it? Being in an debate is one thing, but reading one kind of gives me a grin for some reason.
>>>But this happened in the 80's before Esiner moved in (the good one).<<<
But to be fair, Disney was still pumping just about all of it's resources into it's parks, and providing high quality entertainment. Yes, the studios were a total joke (and they are now too), but Disney still provided the best entertainment it could. Can we really say the same about Disney today?
>>>But as one family told us at AKL, U hires D "rejects".<<<
That is a completely bogus statement now. I will admit that up until last year Universal employees were pretty awful, but with the new leadership and strict standards, the problem employees have found their way out the door.
And some ex-imagineers did help Universal create the best new theme park on American soil since Epcot.
The wild card that can change things is, as you said, Eisner leaving. There is a chance that someone with a true understanding of Disney's philosophy will come in and turn Disney into the great company it once was, but I really don't expect the company to be ran any differently when Pittman/who knows takes over. What will happen is that the new CEO will almost definitely put experienced people into their respective divisions, and yes, that will cause standards to rise. Will it be on the scale of what Universal has been attempting? That remains to be seen. I guess it all depends on how much damage is done between now and then.
Where was it? Being in an debate is one thing, but reading one kind of gives me a grin for some reason.
>>>But this happened in the 80's before Esiner moved in (the good one).<<<
But to be fair, Disney was still pumping just about all of it's resources into it's parks, and providing high quality entertainment. Yes, the studios were a total joke (and they are now too), but Disney still provided the best entertainment it could. Can we really say the same about Disney today?
>>>But as one family told us at AKL, U hires D "rejects".<<<
That is a completely bogus statement now. I will admit that up until last year Universal employees were pretty awful, but with the new leadership and strict standards, the problem employees have found their way out the door.
And some ex-imagineers did help Universal create the best new theme park on American soil since Epcot.
The wild card that can change things is, as you said, Eisner leaving. There is a chance that someone with a true understanding of Disney's philosophy will come in and turn Disney into the great company it once was, but I really don't expect the company to be ran any differently when Pittman/who knows takes over. What will happen is that the new CEO will almost definitely put experienced people into their respective divisions, and yes, that will cause standards to rise. Will it be on the scale of what Universal has been attempting? That remains to be seen. I guess it all depends on how much damage is done between now and then.
Testtrack321
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My statement was about the CM's you see. They wern't good when I went Aug. 2001.
Fievel, don't kill me... 20 pages when you look at it in different views
Also, what were they pouring in the parks before Esiner? Nothing. They mabey had the finishing of JII or Horizons, but everything was pretty dim and grizlly (not a refrence to somebody...) at the WD Company then.
Fievel, don't kill me... 20 pages when you look at it in different views
Also, what were they pouring in the parks before Esiner? Nothing. They mabey had the finishing of JII or Horizons, but everything was pretty dim and grizlly (not a refrence to somebody...) at the WD Company then.
Testtrack321
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No, no! I mean right before Esiner. When Disney was truly sagging! Two pavilions can hardly compare to money in the parks. Two reasons, one it is sponsored, the second is that it was something that was in development when the park was under construction. This was a planned part, not an addition a few years latter.
>>>No, no! I mean right before Esiner. When Disney was truly sagging!<<<
You mean how they were in court battles to keep their characters, their studios were a joke, their stock price was in the gutters, and the only thing that was keeping them afloat was their theme parks?
You mean how they were in court battles to keep their characters, their studios were a joke, their stock price was in the gutters, and the only thing that was keeping them afloat was their theme parks?
Disney4648
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Rob, is that land currently being used?
Testtrack321
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Parks? No. That was their bank account and their board that kept them alive. The parks were going down. Then Esiner came in and did good, then turned evil...
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