Jrb1979
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You definitely can. There is many coasters with inversions with only lap bar.
I do grasp it. MK is a family geared to littles. Its also why they got rid of the best attraction there in Alien Encounter
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WDW's Space Mountain is REALLY bad
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Launch coaster with inversions with a lap bar idea is an death waiting to happen.
The violent themed AE was not a right fit at MK hence it was eliminated.
Name them.
Jrb1979
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Steel Vengeance Iron Gwazi, Velocicoaster, Hangtime at Knotts. Many more than that.
Smiley/OCD
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First off, everyone bellyaching that it was so much smoother 20+ years ago were also 20+ years YOUNGER then…I’d hate to see all you “coaster purists” ride the old wooden coasters that I rode in the NE when I was younger…the way you’re talking, you would’ve been carted off on a stretcher…SM has ALWAYS been rough…half of the thrill is riding in the dark not expecting the dips and turns.
FWIW, RnRC beats me up MUCH more than SM does (and I’m 6’3”)
Hell, driving over the rumble strips on the highway feels different than it did 20 years ago…
You should’ve tried the old Thunderhawk at Dorney Park in PA or the old wooden coaster at Bertrand Island in Lake Hopatcong NJ or the Cyclone in Coney Island or even Rolling Thunder at SF Great Adventure…
THOSE OLD COASTERS BEAT YOU UP…AND you saw where you were going…sheesh…
FWIW, RnRC beats me up MUCH more than SM does (and I’m 6’3”)
Hell, driving over the rumble strips on the highway feels different than it did 20 years ago…
You should’ve tried the old Thunderhawk at Dorney Park in PA or the old wooden coaster at Bertrand Island in Lake Hopatcong NJ or the Cyclone in Coney Island or even Rolling Thunder at SF Great Adventure…
THOSE OLD COASTERS BEAT YOU UP…AND you saw where you were going…sheesh…
Nothing beats up your body worse than the infamous Action Park Vernon Valley NJ. I still remember the body aches and skin scrapes in many parts of the body.
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TrainsOfDisney
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More like the Disneyland Paris route.
I’ve ridden a few.
Flight of Fear!!!
Flight of Fear is DHS Tower of Terror but a few months ago a guest squeezed out of the safety harness to experience a free fall. He hit his head on the roof of the ride and was hospitalized in critical condition. Stupid is as stupid does.
Coaster Lover
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Inverted or inverting? Regardless, I'll give you both... Fianna Force in Ireland is an Inverted coaster (train sits below the track) that has inversions (goes upside down) and only uses a lap bar...
Fianna Force - Emerald Park (Ashbourne, Meath, Ireland)
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Manufactures are using deeper seats with lap bars that are more form fitting to properly and safely secure you just from the hips. Unfortunately, the restraints tend to make it tougher for guests of "non-standard" body sizes to ride and Disney tends to prefer to build rides that can handle as wide a demographic as possible. The lowest height requirement I've seen on an inverting coaster that utilizes just a lap bar is 48" which is a little high by Disney standards. (Edit... I guess all the old Schwarzkopf coasters have only lap bar, go upside down, and only have a 42" height requirement... but they really don't make um like that anymore...)
There's one just up the road at IOA that has recorded zero deaths... (and many, MANY more around the world with similar track records)
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TrainsOfDisney
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No, flight of fear is a launched coaster with inversions that doesn’t have shoulder restraints. It has a “lap bar” similar to the one Martin posted above. Indoor coaster, similar to rock n roller but much more intense - also super fun!
I think the old Mindbender trains at Six Flags Georgia had more basic lap bars, but those loops pull so many g’s ain’t nobody falling out haha
osian
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I've just been on a two-week theme park tour from Ohio to Texas. There were several inverting coasters on the trip with no over-the-shoulder restraints. Steel Vengeance, Flight of Fear, Mr Freeze, Poltergeist, Storm Chaser, Iron Rattler, Time Traveler, Silver Bullet, Shock Wave (SFoT). There are plenty more, specifically RMCs, Macks, Schwarzkopfs tend not to have them, and clones of the above ones.
osian
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Flight of Fear/Poltergeist/Jokers Jinx - one of my favourite ever coaster(s)!
DisneyDean97
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I'm afraid when they replace WDWs Space Mountain track, they'll probably opt for ride vehicles that are side by side seating. I like the toboggan style seating on SM.
Jrb1979
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What about Velocicoaster, it's the similar to Big Thunder except tighter.
It’s nothing like BTM. It’s for a single rider and engages with the sculpted seat. It’s also molded, and suspended from the seat - which also houses the locking mechanism which is very different to a “lap bar” lock. Velocicoaster has more in common with Mako, which you wouldn’t call a lap bar either.
A lap bar is just that - a bar that restrains the lap area. Newer coaster are far more than that, hence they can get away from the traditional horseshoe and still invert / offer manoeuvres a lap bar wouldn’t be suitable for.
Jrb1979
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Then I should have said no over the shoulder restraint.
Smiley/OCD
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Yes, true but we’re talking roller coasters…that’s apples and oranges