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WDWMAGIC Space Mountain soft opening report and detailed overview
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RSoxNo1
Well-Known Member
If it's on a turn are the vehicles facing different directions in the on-ride photos?
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
Indeed.....Could and SHOULD.
joel_maxwell
Permanent Resident of EPCOT
That is what it seems right... that is weird. As on now, Im not to big a fan of the location. Ill let them tweak it a bit, but if they could take a photo on the track location the goes right next to the lift hill without a flash, that would be a part that always makes me laugh a bit due to the proximity.
joel_maxwell
Permanent Resident of EPCOT
There is that hard turn right after that.... seems more appropiate to make it during the actual ride instead of the right before the lift. How silly.
Mansion Butler
Active Member
I rode several times today, and the on-ride photo location seems to have been fixed. No one's heads were cut off.
Also, it was my first time with the games working. The asteroids thing was AWESOME. Lost and Found collection had a lot of issues and wasn't that fun, but better than standing bored in line. We were interviewed by some Imagineers afterwards and shared some thoughts. They seemed fully interested in all of them. I really like the addition of the games.
What I didn't like was the guy behind us barking at us one time that the line was moving. "Okay, guys. Time to move up." I could have smacked him. It's not actually changing his wait time at all, he's just going to move farther at once. And if he's so desperate to keep moving, he could just walk around the people playing games. They stop a little ways from merge for a reason: so that the line can stop moving for a while and then move a large distance at once after the fun is over. The thing is, I'm sure this sort of annoyance is going to happen constantly and I'm not sure what there is for guests to do other than be rude back or ignore them. Or worse, have to abandon their game to make some obnoxious person happy.
Also, it was my first time with the games working. The asteroids thing was AWESOME. Lost and Found collection had a lot of issues and wasn't that fun, but better than standing bored in line. We were interviewed by some Imagineers afterwards and shared some thoughts. They seemed fully interested in all of them. I really like the addition of the games.
What I didn't like was the guy behind us barking at us one time that the line was moving. "Okay, guys. Time to move up." I could have smacked him. It's not actually changing his wait time at all, he's just going to move farther at once. And if he's so desperate to keep moving, he could just walk around the people playing games. They stop a little ways from merge for a reason: so that the line can stop moving for a while and then move a large distance at once after the fun is over. The thing is, I'm sure this sort of annoyance is going to happen constantly and I'm not sure what there is for guests to do other than be rude back or ignore them. Or worse, have to abandon their game to make some obnoxious person happy.
Mansion Butler
Active Member
While I would have liked more (but not on-board audio), why should they have spent more money?Indeed.....Could and SHOULD.
Why shouldn`t they? Why be happy with just-enough and not with the Disney difference?
JENNYmouse1024
New Member
i cant wait to ride it!! i went to disney back in april and it was closed. but im going back in 4 days so im so excited to ride it!!:ROFLOL:
Mansion Butler
Active Member
Because it's their money, and if they don't want to they shouldn't. It's not like this is a philanthropic venture, it's a theme park. I would sure as hell like them to pump more money in to the park, and certainly they should keep quality high enough to at least keep their business, but, for the most part, they do. That's unfortunate but true. Disney owes us very little.
I never said you should be. Go somewhere else and then maybe they should spend more money to bring you back to their product.
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
For better quality? For a new experience? To be unique?
Exactly.
Yeah, and that's based on TDO's greed.
Disney owes it's fans nothing!? I doubt that....We are those who follow them, support them. With out us, they have people, still, but those without commitment.
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
Exactly.
Hell, it's regular guests too. Had a very good talk today with a peer about Disney...and the public does see the quality slipping. It's not just us.
Well said.
joel_maxwell
Permanent Resident of EPCOT
Well, this is a tough debate. Yes, it is their money and they can spend how they want... but it is our dollar that starts the cycle (ok, if you want to get technical like what came first, the chicken or the egg) it might be their dollar that advertises that gets us there... but at any rate, no I dont think that someone wouldnt go to WDW for vacation due to the SM trains not having onboard audio, but if that trend starts at the smallest detail and no one complains, then more gets cut the next time so on and so forth. Sooner or later, you're biting the hand that feeds you if you arent pushing the limits of guest satisfaction. After all, it is a theme park, but it is suppost to be the BEST.
Where does the money go? I agree with you in some regard and if there is only so much funding that will be pumped into TL for the 4th quarter or 2009, maybe it might be beneficial to spread the wealth.
Im not a financial expert, but I just cant see how it would have broken the bank to implemented on-board audio.
Hopefully one day. Like I said, it is a healthy debate.
Mansion Butler
Active Member
That seems like treating theme parks as a service owed, not a service offered.
So?
Yup. Disney has a right to do what they want with their money, just like we have a right to take our money to wherever we decide we want to spend it. If this Space Mountain refurbishment is good enough for us to go to the Magic Kingdom, it's good enough for them, and that makes nothing but pure, reasonable sense. We owe them nothing and they owe us nothing.
I feel often like Disney fans see the parks as something that the company should put their money in to for the good of humanity like charity. I'm right their with everyone who would have wanted more in this refurb and who thinks the Magic Kingdom would be better with more work put in to it, but I think it's a little silly to think Disney should because of some sort of obligation to community or something. It's not food for starving children, it's entertainment. (If you want to have a side argument that Disney could be more philanthropic that's cool, but that's not spending money on Space Mountain).
Mansion Butler
Active Member
I respond to this in a separate post because it's an interesting concept I was thinking about today unrelated to whether or not Disney is obligated to spend more money than they have to.
The first is that I think we assume too much by saying the money could have been spent on Space Mountain. Perhaps it would have broken the bank. I don't know, I doubt it, but I don't know, so I'm not going to assume.
Or, perhaps the money is going to be spent elsewhere, instead of simply hoarded. And if this is true, I would see this as A REALLY GOOD THING. Just like the previous scenario, I don't know, so I wont' assume, but it's a likeable outcome. And I'm not talking about on-board audio, since I don't want that, but bear with me here. Let's say they had 100 million they could spend, and originally could have spent it on Space Mountain and planned on spending it on Space Mountain. Instead, what if they just did the refurb they got and put that money somewhere else on property. I personally felt Space was pretty close to perfect already, and if there's limited money, I'd rather it get spent on several hundred projects ahead of something that's already damn awesome anyway.
This is a tangent, but whatever. It's a hopeful one. If they decided to spend less on Space Mountain because they wanted to spend more on Journey into Imagination (random example), that's terrific. Space Mountain was awesome before the refurb, that can't be said of everything.