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WDW Still Struggling with Safety and Unions
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Joesixtoe
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Florida unemployment is immensely difficult to deal with, many not getting paid regularly and call takers aren't really able to help with very much sadly.
spock8113
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If Disney isn't looking at this: https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/7572b118dc3c48d885d1c643c195314e/
they should be and before you go you should look it over as well. The state is an epidemic center for the entire country and Disney's going to open their parks while Florida sends their kids back to school? This is why the Disney Unions and Teachers' Union are so angry.
There is total disregard for these facts that affect everyone's health. Minimizing this is why the states ER's are getting now overloaded.
With all the construction and changes along with the risk of catching Corona, I don't need to see Figmund or the Swiss Family Robinson Tree House that bad. I will not be going anytime soon.
they should be and before you go you should look it over as well. The state is an epidemic center for the entire country and Disney's going to open their parks while Florida sends their kids back to school? This is why the Disney Unions and Teachers' Union are so angry.
There is total disregard for these facts that affect everyone's health. Minimizing this is why the states ER's are getting now overloaded.
With all the construction and changes along with the risk of catching Corona, I don't need to see Figmund or the Swiss Family Robinson Tree House that bad. I will not be going anytime soon.
peter11435
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Just a point of order, the unions representing most cast members at WDW are very happy with the reopening and thrilled to be collecting dues again. It is only one union representing one of the smallest groups of cast members that is upset.
Bingo. Unions are a business too and it's not a non profit.
To be fair it's the only union representing CMs where maintaining social distancing isn't easily doable. Disney and the union cant agree on mask usage or testing as workarounds.
Maybe I'm too cynical...I think Disney is happy being able to be able to blame a third party, union, for one cost saving cutback.
asianway
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Anyone know how much a rapid COVID test costs?
peter11435
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I don’t think I would agree with that first statement at all. Certainly they work in close contact with one another in some roles, but equity performers have less contact and far less close contact with guests than most other roles.
Contact with other CMs (performers) not guests. Union is concerned about the health of members. I agree CM can be separated from guest, with a few exceptions.
I didnt quote PP, cost of testing may be on reason why Disney would rather keep equity staffed attractions closed then address the, in my HMO, issues.
TJJohn12
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Equity and SAG are two different things. Equity precedent would only impact Equity stages. That would still have a huge impact, but SAG and AEA don't necessarily take cues from each other. And AEA has had a rocky relationship with Disney over the years - including being on the blacklist at times - so I can't see Equity taking cues from a Disney opening, nor most Equity houses trying that argument either: most know Disney floats on and off the list and don't want to be there themselves.
Sweet Thing
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As grievance talks loom, Disney sidesteps union actors by changing shows
As Walt Disney World and Actors’ Equity Association members prepare to discuss a grievance filed by the union, Disney is finding ways to work around the absent performers. Actors’ Equit…
www.orlandosentinel.com
I wonder if they are planning on just changing all of the shows rather than bringing back the ones that Equity is a part of?
TrainsOfDisney
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As grievance talks loom, Disney sidesteps union actors by changing shows
As Walt Disney World and Actors’ Equity Association members prepare to discuss a grievance filed by the union, Disney is finding ways to work around the absent performers. Actors’ Equit…
I wonder if they are planning on just changing all of the shows rather than bringing back the ones that Equity is a part of?
Definitely a possibility. Nothing is stopping them from putting in 3rd party acts into theaters like Indy, Beauty And the Beast and Nemo. Festival of Lion King and frozen sing along can be reworked without equity.
They could also use it as a nice excuse not to reopen those shows until things are better in the economy.
discos
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I honestly don't know if FOTLK could be reworked since there are so many equity performers in the show- 4 singers, the lead dancer and aerialist, 4 tumble monkeys, and the fire-breather. It's just the main dancers that are non-equity. They could do the show with a vocal track but the performers wouldn't be able to speak live and it would just be the non-equity dancers. I honestly think the show would be a mess if they tried to rework it all non-equity. I think unless a deal is struck with Equity, this show and all the others will remain closed until its safe to reopen.
My prediction is that Equity will work it out. The additional stimulus weekly checks that Equity collects while staying at home runs out next week.
TrainsOfDisney
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It would be a very different show but the non-equity dancers along with the puppeteers in the floats and Timon could certainly pull off a show. They could also potentially add in 3rd party acrobats, like the ones who perform in Africa to replace the tumble monkeys and get some of the drummers to replace the fire spinner. The show is pretty modular in its design.
A show like finding Nemo couldn’t happen without equity though.
TrainsOfDisney
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Possibly, the vast majority of equity actors will be out of work the rest of the year regardless. 40+ broadway theaters plus who knows how many national tours are totally shut down.
True and that's dire straits for them and the surrounding businesses in those areas.
Sweet Thing
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They would just have to record the voices for the show and train the nonEquity puppeteers they have. Most of those aren’t in puppet roles since there just aren’t enough shows with puppets. It would be different but it could be done.
TrainsOfDisney
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Ya know... I hadn’t thought of that. Hopefully it doesn’t come to that but you’re right that could certainly be done.
The full costume characters in a show like beauty and the beast and Timon in lion king.... are those equity?