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WDW1974

WDW1974

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M.rudolf said:
I love Tron great visuals,cluttered storyline. With ironman they are getting a universally loved character right now and they also get to test whether or not marvel is strong enough too support its own park
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I truly hope not. I am not a Marvel fan (despite enjoying some of the recent films quite a bit) and would feel that
Marvel is a cheap and easy out for a 'theme' for another park. I'm sorta hoping that by the time they get to seriously looking into Bob's minions will be long gone and they can consider other concepts because as DCA proved, once you build a Disney Park, you're stuck with it. And if it takes almost a dozen years and billions to make it resonate with an audience than that's what you have to do.

Marvel may work in small doses (as it does at IOA, for instance), but to me is way too weak and specific to carry a park.
 
WDW1974

WDW1974

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ChrisM said:
I think what you meant to say is "Iron Man is, and always has been, pretty much the most bad superhero of all time. He's not just a modern take on an armored knight, but a billionaire genius and an exactly what every red blooded American boy should aspire to be. Especially the boozing womanizer part."

When I was a wee lad it was clear to me from the beginning that Tony Stark was everything Bruce Wayne wished he could be.
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Without totally taking this thread into the world of comics, I'll just say that Bruce Wayne is a much deeper/layered and realistic character than Tony Stark if you're comparing troubled billionaire playboys turned superheros!

(and I'd rather not, even though I just did!)
 
Captain Neo

Captain Neo

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WDW1974 said:
IronMan was apparently approved months ago. Georgie K said it to Steve Davison and his entourage and well, I happen to know someone in said entourage.

As far as I know, soon after the holidays construction work (or prep work) will begin. Most of the infrastructure in said area will go bye-bye ... a lot may go if 'other' projects wind up being approved as well.
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Good. Disneyland really deserves it those structures have just been sitting there rotting for some time.

Is there still a chance one of the American parks will get the Tron e-ticket or is that unrealistic at this point
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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WDW1974 said:
... a lot may go if 'other' projects wind up being approved as well.
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I'd sure love a Wall-E dark ride...

Agree with not wanting a Marvel only Park. Sure Disney is flying high with Marvel, but what if the super heroes fall out of favour in 10 years. But I think an Ironman attraction is great!
 
csm

csm

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BlueSkyDriveBy said:
Yes, it is now. But way back when this park was originally conceived, that section was going to be Stark Expo. That's where the concept art came from. Stark Expo was developed originally for Shanghai, not Anaheim. Only later was it changed from IM to TRON.
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Again though - Anaheim is not the park getting the first Iron Man attraction. Sorry, but your info is not accurate here.
 
WDW1974

WDW1974

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csm said:
Again though - Anaheim is not the park getting the first Iron Man attraction. Sorry, but your info is not accurate here.
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OK, since they are starting construction in Anaheim this winter, why don't you just spit out what you are attempting to say. Are you suggesting it is coming to the MK, which it isn't and can't? Are you saying it is going to spring up in HK first? What are you saying, I'm a slow dimwitted Spirit who just had to read a freaking planted story on the CBJ in the New York Times (seriously! ... worse it quotes this site and even mentions Mongello's and quotes a Tom Bricker Tweet ... boy, wonder who called in what favor there!) and doesn't wish to play Tony Stark Mystery Theater.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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Yes I believe he is referring to Hong Kong. There was already mention of them wanting to add two expansions "for boys" following the current round.
 
csm

csm

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M.rudolf said:
Sorry csm your absolutely wrong on this one. Didnt you also claim DC was in talks w/Uni to be in IOA
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There were concepts for DC to be apart of a then broader "Super Hero Island" *long* before IOA was built. It never made it past the concept stage. There were complications with DC's contract with Six Flags for theme park rights.

I'm fine with you believing I'm wrong. Bottom line is I have the plans for the Iron Man expansion (as well as another major attraction for that park that the majority of fanboys believe is going to different resort on the other side of the globe) - *and* all the art of the DC attractions that could have gone to IOA had negotiations panned out years ago - right here in front of me on my computer. I will never have anything to prove to anyone on this forum. I can easily go back to perpetual lurk mode while a handful of you make assumptions based on guesses stemming from fanboy dreams.
 
menamechris

menamechris

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csm said:
There were concepts for DC to be apart of a then broader "Super Hero Island" *long* before IOA was built. It never made it past the concept stage. There were complications with DC's contract with Six Flags for theme park rights.

I'm fine with you believing I'm wrong. Bottom line is I have the plans for the Iron Man expansion (as well as another major attraction for that park that the majority of fanboys believe is going to different resort on the other side of the globe) - *and* all the art of the DC attractions that could have gone to IOA had negotiations panned out years ago - right here in front of me on my computer. I will never have anything to prove to anyone on this forum. I can easily go back to perpetual lurk mode while a handful of you make assumptions based on guesses stemming from fanboy dreams.
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Sounds like you just have it all, huh?
 
Magenta Panther

Magenta Panther

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WDW1974 said:
Why base an attraction on ANY superhero? DL has done just fine for 57 years without them.

Oh right, Bob Iger's ego ... nevermind.
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EXACTLY. I bet if Uncle Roy were still alive, he'd start up SaveDisney all over again. Iger's disdain for actual Disney creations is contemptible. He really seems to believe that in order to compete, Disney parks have to build attractions based on characters from other studios, instead of using the rich Disney legacy that's already there. Effin' bozo.
 
cupanudles

cupanudles

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Magenta Panther said:
EXACTLY. I bet if Uncle Roy were still alive, he'd start up SaveDisney all over again. Iger's disdain for actual Disney creations is contemptible. He really seems to believe that in order to compete, Disney parks have to build attractions based on characters from other studios, instead of using the rich Disney legacy that's already there. Effin' bozo.
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What more do you expect from a weatherman?
 
Magenta Panther

Magenta Panther

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WDW1974 said:
I truly hope not. I am not a Marvel fan (despite enjoying some of the recent films quite a bit) and would feel that
Marvel is a cheap and easy out for a 'theme' for another park. I'm sorta hoping that by the time they get to seriously looking into Bob's minions will be long gone and they can consider other concepts because as DCA proved, once you build a Disney Park, you're stuck with it. And if it takes almost a dozen years and billions to make it resonate with an audience than that's what you have to do.

Marvel may work in small doses (as it does at IOA, for instance), but to me is way too weak and specific to carry a park.
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Completely agree. I still say that superheroes serve a very narrow market. A Marvel park would def not get the cross-generational, both-gender demographic that Disney parks usually enjoy. Didn't Iger learn anything from DCA? It failed because it wasn't DISNEY enough. He pretty much said so in a press release. Why invest in a whole PARK that in no way will EVER be Disney enough?
 
M.rudolf

M.rudolf

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csm said:
There were concepts for DC to be apart of a then broader "Super Hero Island" *long* before IOA was built. It never made it past the concept stage. There were complications with DC's contract with Six Flags for theme park rights.

I'm fine with you believing I'm wrong. Bottom line is I have the plans for the Iron Man expansion (as well as another major attraction for that park that the majority of fanboys believe is going to different resort on the other side of the globe) - *and* all the art of the DC attractions that could have gone to IOA had negotiations panned out years ago - right here in front of me on my computer. I will never have anything to prove to anyone on this forum. I can easily go back to perpetual lurk mode while a handful of you make assumptions based on guesses stemming from fanboy dreams.
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That's fine csm when you and JT04 get together give me a call. I've got the map to the fountain of youth in front of my mac, but of course I'm not showing. I'm not a fanboy, nor am I dreaming Ironman will be in DL. I'm glad your so confident in yourself it reminds of another poster who talks out of a lower orifice.
 
WDW1974

WDW1974

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BrianLo said:
Yes I believe he is referring to Hong Kong. There was already mention of them wanting to add two expansions "for boys" following the current round.
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They may well add the attraction at HKDL. BUT no way it goes there before Anaheim, so csm is just way off if that is what he/she was insinuating.
 
Lee

Lee

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Aee
Mickey92 said:
This is a really interesting thread, thankyou! Can I just ask why Disney are taking Legal action on Lou Mongello's tours??
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Are they?
I think they should, but I don't think they are. If they tell him to stop, I'm sure he will. He wouldn't want anything to interfere with his gravy train.[/quote]
 

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