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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
as soon as there’s enough leftover from the budget
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DreamfinderGuy

Well-Known Member
I don't think anyone doubts it'll happen. The questions are to what extent and when. It needs retracking not just show scene changes.
It doesn't really need a retrack. Have you been on it recently? The whole clanking issue it used to have is pretty much gone now. That was never a track problem.

Haven't heard anything on this in a while but yes, as of like six months ago SSE was still being eyed for a refurb once Test Track is back up. Wouldn't surprise me if this is a Destination D announcement, or maybe D23 next year.
 

Disgruntled Walt

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
It doesn't really need a retrack. Have you been on it recently? The whole clanking issue it used to have is pretty much gone now. That was never a track problem.

Haven't heard anything on this in a while but yes, as of like six months ago SSE was still being eyed for a refurb once Test Track is back up. Wouldn't surprise me if this is a Destination D announcement, or maybe D23 next year.
Wasn't everyone saying the track needed to be replaced? What was the clanking if not that?
 

DreamfinderGuy

Well-Known Member
Wasn't everyone saying the track needed to be replaced? What was the clanking if not that?
Ride system maintenance issues, not the track itself. If you were there for the peak of the clanking a few years back you should go give it another ride and listen in for it if you can. At worst it’s a lot less prominent, I haven’t noticed it at all lately
 

Mr. Sullivan

Well-Known Member
Ride system maintenance issues, not the track itself. If you were there for the peak of the clanking a few years back you should go give it another ride and listen in for it if you can. At worst it’s a lot less prominent, I haven’t noticed it at all lately
Was just on it a few hours ago and can confirm I didn't notice it either
 

DreamfinderGuy

Well-Known Member
A permit was filed for the address of Imagination with an expiration of 11/28/2025 which would suggest something pretty significant.
In case it never got put up here, this permit was to convert some upstairs space (specifically the old Vibrating Mirror room which has been closed since the early ‘90s) into a new cast break room. The project has finished and none of the rest of the Image Works was impacted. The new break room is behind where the rainbow corridor used to be and beside where Mirage used to be, that little corner of the second floor.
 

Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
Didn't they somehow sabotage Journey Into Imagination by messing with the queue to make the wait times go down so the higher-ups would think the ride wasn't popular anymore?

Yep.

One rope across an entranceway doomed the Original Attraction.
Ops changed the flow into the Pavillion by adding a rope so that foot traffic was purposely driven over to the Magic Eye Theatre to see ‘HiSTA’ first, instead of experiencing the ride first as originally intended.

This was done to ‘prove’ to certain parties within the Company that the then new 4D film Attraction was ‘more popular’ with Guests then the expensive to operate ‘JII’ Attraction next door.

The dive in ridership numbers was the fuel needed to burn away what was at the time seen as a needless expense.
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1998 was not a good year….




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Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
It still baffles me how they went through with closing JII because of how bad of a decision that was. Even from a business standpoint.

It all had to do with saving the Company money.

At the time, Disney was desperate to cut costs due to the expenses involved in building EuroDisney / Disneyland Paris and the financial fall out post-opening.
The Company started instructing the Parks to look for substantial ways to cut costs, and expensive to operate Attractions were specifically targeted.

Two in particular were purposely sabotaged by Ops , ‘20,000 Leagues Under the Sea’ at MK in 1994 and the Original ‘Journey Into Imagination’ at EPCOT Center in 1998.
Both were closed not because of loss of interest by Guests, but because they were expensive to operate, staff, and maintain.

The following year ‘Horizons’ over at EPCOT was also targeted, as it required a refurbishment and refresh the Company was not overly interested in addressing due to the costs involved.

All three Attractions were shuttered within five years.

The tragedy is that if these were all allowed to have survived for just a year or two more, they could possibly still be operating today…especially the Original ‘Journey’.
But the Company decided these Attractions were wasting money, and needed to be gutted and replaced with something far less expensive to operate.

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Moth

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Just a heads up regarding Moana in Adventureland, Marni has mentioned that the Shanghai boat ride system was a fan rumor.
iirc that was stated pretty early on that the Moana rumor would have that different system.
 

Jayspency

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
iirc that was stated pretty early on that the Moana rumor would have that different system.
Weren’t there patents filed a while back for a boat ride system the resembled Moana’s boat from the movie? I can’t remember if that was fan made or leaked.
 

TheDisneyParksfanC8

Well-Known Member
I though Moana was pulled from the D23 2024 slate was because the patent that looked like her boat may have not been high capacity enough for WDI which was the main factor that killed the Quinjet Avengers E ticket. So redesigning it with the Shanghai pirates tech would have made sense.

But apparently not. Maybe the real reason it was pulled was they want to save a couple of new bombshell announcements for D23 2026, which is likely to he heavy on updates on the existing slate announced in 2024.
 

DisDude33

Well-Known Member
Maybe the real reason it was pulled was they want to save a couple of new bombshell announcements for D23 2026, which is likely to he heavy on updates on the existing slate announced in 2024.
From what I’ve heard it was of this and the fact that it’s so far down the line of things that are going to be done that it made sense to push the announcement back a couple years and not “commit” to building it just yet.
 

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