WDW literally falling apart

John park hopper

John park hopper

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Bob's evil hand
 
ParadoxPortals

ParadoxPortals

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Cmdr_Crimson said:
Not sure if anyone had heard this yet....
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Whilst I agree with some of the points in the video, and do appreciate the production value of it (good catchy song), I gotta admit I don't think this is a really strong critique of the company these days. Once again we get more Walt worship as if he was a perfect God and not a flawed human being, and some of the points like Trader Sam being "homeless"(?) read as nonsensical to me. All of the song's points were very softball opinions about this guys' personal preferences for the parks, and completely ignored some of the genuine big problems the company faces these days. But yeah, the contemporary state of the company is pretty poor, and it's exciting to hear these concerns start to enter more mainstream media places.
 
Mr. Sullivan

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Cmdr_Crimson said:
Not sure if anyone had heard this yet....
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I am honestly getting a little tired of the “What Would Walt Say” stuff because the answer is we don’t know how he would react and operate in the modern world with a company significantly larger than when he left it.

Further, Walt Disney was not this infallible individual that was immune to poor decision making and leadership. He failed, made bad calls, and steered the company in the wrong direction more than once. And that is to be expected. No successful person is so without mistakes along the way. I don’t know why this fandom continues to pretend everything was or would be perfect with Walt in charge.

At this point people are just using him and his legacy as a facade to share what they personally want for the company, whether it would be the direction Walt took things or not.
 
Agent H

Agent H

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Mr. Sullivan said:
I am honestly getting a little tired of the “What Would Walt Say” stuff because the answer is we don’t know how he would react and operate in the modern world with a company significantly larger than when he left it.

Further, Walt Disney was not this infallible individual that was immune to poor decision making and leadership. He failed, made bad calls, and steered the company in the wrong direction more than once. And that is to be expected. No successful person is so without mistakes along the way. I don’t know why this fandom continues to pretend everything was or would be perfect with Walt in charge.

At this point people are just using him and his legacy as a facade to share what they personally want for the company, whether it would be the direction Walt took things or not.
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Disgruntled Walt

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Mr. Sullivan said:
I am honestly getting a little tired of the “What Would Walt Say” stuff because the answer is we don’t know how he would react and operate in the modern world with a company significantly larger than when he left it.

Further, Walt Disney was not this infallible individual that was immune to poor decision making and leadership. He failed, made bad calls, and steered the company in the wrong direction more than once. And that is to be expected. No successful person is so without mistakes along the way. I don’t know why this fandom continues to pretend everything was or would be perfect with Walt in charge.

At this point people are just using him and his legacy as a facade to share what they personally want for the company, whether it would be the direction Walt took things or not.
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Things were a heck of a lot better when he was in charge. He actually cared about guest experience more than profits.
 
Mr. Sullivan

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Disgruntled Walt said:
Things were a heck of a lot better when he was in charge. He actually cared about guest experience more than profits.
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Sure, that I won’t argue. But I also believe that we don’t know if that would have lasted forever, we don’t know how he would have changed with the times or with adding more parks or anything like that. Eisner started caring more about the experience but grew to be profit minded when he faced failure. Walt started out caring about his animation studio more than anything and once Disneyland was around he could care less what was happening at WDAS.

My point really is Walt was only in charge of one single park for a decade, a very small snapshot of it’s existence, and I think it’s a dead end to imagine that he would’ve always had the right answer as the world and industry began to change and that he would’ve always “pleased the fans”. And like I said, I feel today that many like to use “Walt would do xyz” to justify their own wants and desires even if there’s really no way to know or even begin to conceive the way he would handle various things over the years.

He’s rather deified by the fanbase and I get why but I do feel sometimes his faults and failures get ignored to the degree people truly believe he never would have made any poor decisions had he been around long enough to see the company and parks expand beyond the scope he was able to recognize in his time.

I respect Walt Disney a ton as I think all fans should. But I also really don’t think “If only Walt were here” is the answer to every problem. It’s all fan wish conjecture to imagine a perfect Disney with him around when it was never even a perfect company when he was still here, if that makes sense.

It just seems in the fanbase just kinda tend to look on the past with a lens that obscures all issues because they’re dissatisfied with the present. Hence the Eisner rehab as of late. As crazy as it sounds, if you stick around long enough, there’s gonna be an Iger rehab too.
 
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marni1971

marni1971

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BasiltheBatLord said:
Seems like there is a concerted effort to fix things at the parks within the past 6-12 months, just based off of all the reports of effects being fixed.

My uneducated hope is that this is COVID-era bottlenecks and labor shortages finally getting worked out to a reasonable degree.
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When Space Mountains show is fixed I’ll believe it. Kind of.
 
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Streetway Again

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Mr. Sullivan said:
I am honestly getting a little tired of the “What Would Walt Say” stuff because the answer is we don’t know how he would react and operate in the modern world with a company significantly larger than when he left it.

Further, Walt Disney was not this infallible individual that was immune to poor decision making and leadership. He failed, made bad calls, and steered the company in the wrong direction more than once. And that is to be expected. No successful person is so without mistakes along the way. I don’t know why this fandom continues to pretend everything was or would be perfect with Walt in charge.

At this point people are just using him and his legacy as a facade to share what they personally want for the company, whether it would be the direction Walt took things or not.
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Walt Disney if he actually walked into EPCOT today: “Why is this purple peice of garbage everywhere in my city?”
 

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