WDW IT Layoffs 1/30/2015

PhilharMagician

PhilharMagician

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willtravel said:
But is this saying that WDW is rehiring the 500 people that they let go?
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It is saying they are cancelling the train and replace going on right now. The people that remained to train will probably continue to be employed. At least for now. The people that quit and told Disney where to go with train their replacements will most likely not be hired back.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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PhilharMagician said:
It is saying they are cancelling the train and replace going on right now. The people that remained to train will probably continue to be employed. At least for now. The people that quit and told Disney where to go with train their replacements will most likely not be hired back.
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And the ones whose jobs were 'spared' should look for alternate employment immediately if not sooner because Disney will try again, Great way to boost morale and knowledge retention.
 
LuvtheGoof

LuvtheGoof

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So Disney isn't technically lying when they say that they employ H1B to fill "holes". They are being completely disingenuous, and to me unethical, though when outsourcing to a company like Cognizant, which will move almost every job overseas, to maximize their own profits on the contract. Still a loss of American jobs, no matter how they want to spin it.
 
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fosse76

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Just to be clear, the foreign workers referenced in this thread were being "brought over" to work in the U.S. for positions that, quite frankly, there is an abundance of qualified workers who are U.S. citizens. Therefore the visas are being applied inappropriately (and possibly illegally). And to respond to a comment in this thread, the fact that Disney (or any company for that matter) is offering a salary that American workers would not accept still does not permit them to use this type of visa. The visa is only applicable if there are no qualified American workers, independent of salary demands. The fact that Disney was going to make the fired employees train their replacements proves that there were qualified Americans.
 
wogwog

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Now another paper is citing other companies who think Disney is abusing the visa program and claim that other Florida companies use it correctly. In the opinion of the companies of course.

I am not an IT person or even know anyone involved with the Disney layoffs. My observation is it will be interesting to see of Disney can bury this issue honestly or continue with corporate spin. I only know what I read in the news but the issue just keeps growing legs.

If the allegations are true, it is really shameful for Disney or any company to abuse the system.


http://www.news-press.com/story/mon...worker-visas-fill-florida-positions/28990941/
 
Sonconato

Sonconato

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I know this is off topic, but it reminded me of the IT department layoffs. I was on the phone with Orlando Sentinel for receiving only part of a paper, and the customer service clerk was in the Philippines.
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flynnibus

flynnibus

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wogwog said:
One of the layoff victims wrote his story, published today. Disney will crank up the spin machines again.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...americans-with-cheap-foreigners-on-h1b-visas/
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Bleh... More hearsay and someone emotional crushed over being laid off for the first time. Sorry dude, yeah when your division gets consolidated, closed, or outsourced... It sucks and is not pixie dust everyday. And no your past performance doesn't mean jack... Your job is gone.

The real sad thing with these situations is when other departments aren't given the real opportunity to take the top performers.. So everyone gets flushed and the company can't keep top performers at all.

This is the price of big companies and management by large scale... And why I walked away from huge sums of money to get away from such structures.
 
danlb_2000

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PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

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danlb_2000 said:
The only thing that surprised me in the article is that the author was actually surprised by all of this. This sort of thing i far to common. You could write the same article and substitute pretty much any major company for "Dinsey".
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We have the gift of being outsiders and having an outside perspective. Disney and Orlando? It's a bubble. Cast members believe that all the evil things that other companies do could never be perpetuated by Disney.

When you spend your whole career with one company that way and are loyal to that company, you start to think that the company will show that sort of loyalty back. They won't.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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I get people are put off by the 'train your replacement' situation.. it's not easy. Imagine how it is for people that the company won't tell them the truth...

Here they had more months of employment and severence... alas under less than ideal conditions. Sure beats what a lot of people get... which is NOTHING and told not to come back tomorrow.

Instead these people should take solace that they have been liberated from a company that is headed towards tough times because of their stupid choices and they can start somewhere else with a free conscious. But of course... some people will ride a ship to the bottom simply because it requires them to do nothing.. and then are upset why the world isn't a better place.

I just walked away from a continuity path of 19 years... a decision that included having to walk away from massive amounts of unvested awards... no severance (that in some divisions would have been more than a years worth of income)... no send off... nothing. All I got was a letter saying where to send my stuff. And I did all that... willingly... because I don't want to just sit back and collect paychecks while your brain rots and the company wanders. If you want to excel and find continued success... it doesn't come from waiting to be hand fed. Maybe in 6 months my old friends will get laid off in the next round.. and they'll get their 4-12months of severance, etc.. and I'll have missed out on crazy amounts of money... but I'm the one who took a job of opportunity, where I want... not one of necessity.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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Jlasoon said:
Month of August

698,000 Native born Americans lose their jobs
204,000 Foreign born workers got a job.

What is going on is unprecedented & Disney sucks for kowtowing to Wall Street.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-...ob-august-why-suddenly-most-important-jobs-ch
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foreign born does not mean just non-citizen...

The definition for the BLS is
The foreign born are persons
who reside in the United States but who were born outside the country or one of its
outlying areas to parents who were not U.S. citizens. The foreign born include legally-
admitted immigrants, refugees, temporary residents such as students and temporary
workers, and undocumented immigrants. The survey data, however, do not separately
identify the numbers of persons in these categories
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You'll also find the BLS also states for 2014
Foreign-born workers were more likely than native-born workers to be employed in
service occupations and less likely to be employed in management, professional,
and related occupations and in sales and office occupations
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http://www.bls.gov/news.release/forbrn.nr0.htm

Suprise... our own workers don't want to work low paying, service industry jobs. Every place I go around me has 'help wanted' signs up... yet fewer and fewer teenagers actually work.. and too many people are 'over qualified' for the work out there.

Don't let the blogs and others swoon you with their cherry picked data. When we eliminate manufacturing, increase automation, and streamline white collar work... we will have more employment opportunity growth in service industries than in professional white collar jobs. Yet everyone thinks they can just pick what job works for them.. and its the president or whomevers fault for not creating the job they want... instead of actually training for job opportunities that were out there.
 
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PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

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flynnibus said:
foreign born does not mean just non-citizen...

The definition for the BLS is


You'll also find the BLS also states for 2014


Suprise... our own workers don't want to work low paying, service industry jobs. Every place I go around me has 'help wanted' signs up... yet fewer and fewer teenagers actually work.. and too many people are 'over qualified' for the work out there.

Don't let the blogs and others swoon you with their cherry picked data. When we eliminate manufacturing, increase automation, and streamline white collar work... we will have more employment opportunity growth in service industries than in professional white collar jobs. Yet everyone thinks they can just pick what job works for them.. and its the president or whomevers fault for not creating the job they want... instead of actually training for job opportunities that were out there.
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And you can't fault someone for wanting to come to America and have a great life.
 

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