WDW Awakens ...

[NYwdwfan]

Been thinking about this more indecent weeks. Maybe the 50th will introduce a new slide at both waterparks?

Although given recent history, maybe we should all just hope for a consistently working Summit Plummet...

I know it was a typo and I'm extremely immature...but you said "indecent" and "waterparks" in the same sentence.

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

I know it was a typo and I'm extremely immature...but you said "indecent" and "waterparks" in the same sentence.

Noted and repaired!

 

[Stevek]

...and around the time of the death of the castmember on the riverboat dock, etc. A lot of it will remind you of what's been going on for a while.

It was actually a 34 year old male guest that was killed.

http://news.aitkenlaw.com/verdicts-settlements/columbia-incident/

 

[asianway]

It was actually a 34 year old male guest that was killed.

http://news.aitkenlaw.com/verdicts-settlements/columbia-incident/

Yeah, the CMs keep getting killed at Primeval Whirl

 

[rael ramone]

It's just laughable. It shows they have nothing. They've been touting the 2005 Crush 'n' Gusher as 'new' for a decade now. It's pretty sad. I have to wonder if either water park will ever see another addition. They don't seem to need to draw anyone in so again it's a 'why bother' instead of a 'let's show you what we can do'. It's just discouraging overall. When was the last addition to Blizzard Beach? The park itself I guess, lol. I've never been a waterpark fan (mostly because I'm not a big fan of heights) but it's pretty sad how long they've coasted.

I've posted this before, but when you're at a waterpark, guests have this annoying habit of not wearing their wallets when enjoying the attractions... (partially resolved by a number of guests shackled w/ Mouse Arrest Bands).

All food is quick serve. Limited merch. (And away from the attractions).

What incentive is there for them to plus the waterparks? (Considering how hard it is for them to plus their higher revenue generating parks)...

 

[ford91exploder]

This is not just a Disney problem it is a political problem in the US and world more then ever. It comes from people struggling through the toughest recession the country has had since the great depression. People are bitter and they are bitter that they are not getting there fair share so they are mad at corporation and business because they are making record profit and not spending enough back on them to give them more.

The problem is even when they do give and spend it is never enough it is never enough to serve the people that just feel so bitter about being short changed and left behind.

The great recession changed and put fear into business to spend and they have been holding this money tight to there chest for years now building war chest and getting fat and happy. Look at Apple it has billion in cash why? Why not give it back to the shareholders....

Disney why not spend and give back to the customers...

Slowly it is changing companies are starting to innovate again and spend on RD and big projects but the world changed and everyone got scared and hid hopefully the economy stays stable so they keep slowly getting back to normal.

Good points but the reluctance to invest in the US these days has more to do with the capricious regulatory and financial policies of the last 10-15 years you don't KNOW that what is legal today will be legal tomorrow up here we had a metal foundry which used an innovative process using powdered metal which allowed a 'just enough' casting process which was also highly energy efficient since much smaller amounts of metal were heated in the casting process. It was forced to go out of business because metal powder due to a new regulation is 'raw material' for 90 days and on day 91 it becomes 'Hazardous Waste' which of course the foundry was not licensed as a hazmat facility this was a new law which put a couple hundred people out of work. It's things like this which makes a toxic atmosphere for investment, The best parallel is the FDR days when you had the National Recovery Act regulating every step of business both then and now the regulatory environment led to more businesses closing than opening because of the uncertain regulatory environment.

 

[rael ramone]

Interesting, I generally find DL bathrooms to be in pretty good condition and I certainly would never "hold it" based on one bathroom.

FYI, the Lancaster Soccer fields are the complete opposite way from Joshua Tree. But they are a hideous drive, have been there many times for State Cup soccer tournaments. The wind can be abysmal out there in the land of the dirt people.

I was surprised to see the bathroom in that condition. Last year I found the park, while not up to Walt standards, superior to the swamps.
(In a way it wouldn't be surprising to see a park having the nerve to exceed the standards displayed by another as due for a Chappie Cut).

(I was surprised to see Joshua Trees in the Lancaster area - upon returning home I saw that they were a feature of the Mojave Desert. Didn't notice any Tusken Raiders, though....)

 

[gmajew]

Good points but the reluctance to invest in the US these days has more to do with the capricious regulatory and financial policies of the last 10-15 years you don't KNOW that what is legal today will be legal tomorrow up here we had a metal foundry which used an innovative process using powdered metal which allowed a 'just enough' casting process which was also highly energy efficient since much smaller amounts of metal were heated in the casting process. It was forced to go out of business because metal powder due to a new regulation is 'raw material' for 90 days and on day 91 it becomes 'Hazardous Waste' which of course the foundry was not licensed as a hazmat facility this was a new law which put a couple hundred people out of work. It's things like this which makes a toxic atmosphere for investment, The best parallel is the FDR days when you had the National Recovery Act regulating every step of business both then and now the regulatory environment led to more businesses closing than opening because of the uncertain regulatory environment.

Yup I agree Gov is killing business from investing.... I know I have cut my investment in half due to the unknown status of last min laws trying to be passed that can change my models to where they are no longer profitable.

 

[PhotoDave219]

do you spend 8+ hours in a theater or even a ball game.....for a week....

Well… when I was photographing sports and the Orlando Magic… Yes. Yes I would.

 

[ford91exploder]

Yup I agree Gov is killing business from investing.... I know I have cut my investment in half due to the unknown status of last min laws trying to be passed that can change my models to where they are no longer profitable.

If you are doing it so are millions of other small and large businesses and that's why we are in a nearly zero growth environment because small business is the job engine for america.

 

[Quinnmac000]

If you are doing it so are millions of other small and large businesses and that's why we are in a nearly zero growth environment because small business is the job engine for america.

lets move away from poltics please as this is a really touchy subject on both sides on whether regulations are good or bad.

 

[ford91exploder]

lets move away from poltics please as this is a really touchy subject on both sides on whether regulations are good or bad.

It's relevant when Disney spends more on stock buybacks than investing in their business in the last 10 years Disney has spent nearly 35 THOUSAND MILLION DOLLARS on repurchasing stock much of that is driven by the regulatory environment because of that Disney is making HUGE cuts in customer facing areas while leaving share repurchases untounched.

 

[Kman101]

It was actually a 34 year old male guest that was killed.

http://news.aitkenlaw.com/verdicts-settlements/columbia-incident/

Apologies. I meant to put in the post I wasn't 100% if it was a guest or a cast member. Thank you for the link.

 

[Quinnmac000]

It's relevant when Disney spends more on stock buybacks than investing in their business in the last 10 years Disney has spent nearly 35 THOUSAND MILLION DOLLARS on repurchasing stock much of that is driven by the regulatory environment because of that Disney is making HUGE cuts in customer facing areas while leaving share repurchases untounched.

This is the same company with tons of lobbyists and high officials who are active in the political system (i.e Kathleen Kennedy, Bob Iger) so I believe they use that as a excuse rather than the real reason.

 

[Kman101]

I know we like to throw out the 'bathrooms are left nasty' argument a lot but do you all truly expect them to, say, have a line of castmembers just waiting by the stalls and urinals to clean up after guests before the next ones enter? I'm not excusing laziness, lack of staffing, etc. but IMHO I've rarely encountered this issue that keeps getting brought up. Bathrooms get messy. It happens. I've personally witnessed castmembers in bathrooms almost every time and I've seen cast members take trays from guests at restaurants to throw away food and I've seen several castmembers at the same trash can looking for trash.

In that same breath, what looks dirty and messy for you one minute could be clean and nice for me the next. I think a little too much emphasis is put on the bathrooms. But I get it's more about the overall cleanliness of the resort iteself. But for me, I think they actually do a better job than many here give them credit for.

 

[gmajew]

If you are doing it so are millions of other small and large businesses and that's why we are in a nearly zero growth environment because small business is the job engine for america.

Yup, I was planning on opening up 15-20 units this year... Cut the number to 7-10 because I am so scared at what is coming.

The unknown of what will be forced through between Nov and the new president is scary....

 

[rael ramone]

I know we like to throw out the 'bathrooms are left nasty' argument a lot but do you all truly expect them to, say, have a line of castmembers just waiting by the stalls and urinals to clean up after guests before the next ones enter? I'm not excusing laziness, lack of staffing, etc. but IMHO I've rarely encountered this issue that keeps getting brought up. Bathrooms get messy. It happens. I've personally witnessed castmembers in bathrooms almost every time and I've seen cast members take trays from guests at restaurants to throw away food and I've seen several castmembers at the same trash can looking for trash.

In that same breath, what looks dirty and messy for you one minute could be clean and nice for me the next. I think a little too much emphasis is put on the bathrooms. But I get it's more about the overall cleanliness of the resort iteself. But for me, I think they actually do a better job than many here give them credit for.

For the price of admission, I believe it is 100% appropriate for every 'common' use bathroom to have a porter if that is the only way for it to be presentable by original standards. In Epcot for example: Entrance bathrooms, Odyssey, UK, Morocco, Germany and Norway (oops, sorry....Elsaland) at a minimum.

No papers on the floor. Ever.

No fluids on the floor. Ever.

It now being held to a lower standard then bathrooms used by sweaty kids who have been running in the High Desert (along with their Soccer Moms & Dads) - not that it was clean. But compared to the water closets at the Park That Walt Built they certainly were.

 

[gmajew]

For the price of admission, I believe it is 100% appropriate for every 'common' use bathroom to have a porter if that is the only way for it to be presentable by original standards. In Epcot for example: Entrance bathrooms, Odyssey, UK, Morocco, Germany and Norway (oops, sorry....Elsaland) at a minimum.

No papers on the floor. Ever.

No fluids on the floor. Ever.

It now being held to a lower standard then bathrooms used by sweaty kids who have been running in the High Desert (along with their Soccer Moms & Dads) - not that it was clean. But compared to the water closets at the Park That Walt Built they certainly were.

That would be amazing if it could be like that but it is really the general population that has become just freaking disgusting pigs. They wreck everything they have no values and think it is there right to take a leak on the floor because they paid for it.

What people have become in the last 15 years is just disgusting. I have someone in my bathrooms in my business every 15 minutes... they are not used nearly as much as these but everytime we go in it is stuff on the floor... broken door broken soap dispenser...

We need to start teaching class again... we need to start treating things with respect so the next person that walks in to anything gets to enjoy them in the way you did... not in this disgusting way that people treat things today.... Trash cans are every where whey do you need to throw your mickey ice cream bar wrapper on the ground.... Because you are special?

No because most today are worthless disgusting humans that don't care for themselves or anyone else.

 

[Kman101]

For the price of admission, I believe it is 100% appropriate for every 'common' use bathroom to have a porter if that is the only way for it to be presentable by original standards. In Epcot for example: Entrance bathrooms, Odyssey, UK, Morocco, Germany and Norway (oops, sorry....Elsaland) at a minimum.

No papers on the floor. Ever.

No fluids on the floor. Ever.

It now being held to a lower standard then bathrooms used by sweaty kids who have been running in the High Desert (along with their Soccer Moms & Dads) - not that it was clean. But compared to the water closets at the Park That Walt Built they certainly were.

I agree but sometimes we have to be realistic. We have this idealistic view but were the bathrooms pristine at all times from day one? I mean ... they are bathrooms. But I understand. For me it's picking battles and the bathroom debate just doesn't hold much for me because a dirty stall or a towel on the floor happens. It's not at all going to affect my day. I'm not going to be overly critical. If it's nasty for 8 hours and nothing gets done, then there's an issue.

 

[Kman101]

That would be amazing if it could be like that but it is really the general population that has become just freaking disgusting pigs. They wreck everything they have no values and think it is there right to take a leak on the floor because they paid for it.

What people have become in the last 15 years is just disgusting. I have someone in my bathrooms in my business every 15 minutes... they are not used nearly as much as these but everytime we go in it is stuff on the floor... broken door broken soap dispenser...

We need to start teaching class again... we need to start treating things with respect so the next person that walks in to anything gets to enjoy them in the way you did... not in this disgusting way that people treat things today.... Trash cans are every where whey do you need to throw your mickey ice cream bar wrapper on the ground.... Because you are special?

No because most today are worthless disgusting humans that don't care for themselves or anyone else.

So much this. Unfortunately. But it's true.