Otterhead
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Goodness! Psychotic! I guess I misunderstood what pirates actually did when pillaging towns. Ahem.
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Was Magic Kingdom's POTC damaged by the movie refurb?
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lazyboy97o
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Now look up the meaning of "connotation."
BoarderPhreak
Well-Known Member
Again, "could" or "might" or even "connotation" is reading into it. If you look hard enough for what you want to see or hear, you'll invariably find it.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
There is no hard looking. Ravage being used in a sexual connotation is not some small, niche usage. Rape being part of pillaging was not limited to some small minority group.
Otterhead
Well-Known Member
Just so we're clear: your assertion is that in the original ride, the women running from pirates were just playfully playing hard to get, and the women in the Bride Auction were cheerfully offering themselves up for sale. Correct?
imagineer boy
Well-Known Member
Count me in as one of the people who doesn't mind the movie tie-ins. I think they're unobstrusive and well done for what could've been. Having that said, Dl's version is far superior. And WDW's version pales even more considering how bad of shape its in.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
My asseration is, it's a RIDE in Disney World. There is no inference of rape except to those who chose to see things that way. Which IMO is psychotic.
If you want to get insanely literal about a family ride in a theme park, Id say the women are being purchased as brides. It's another leap entirely to add in rape.
I can't even believe this conversation is happening.
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Me either...yet I'm strangely drawn to this discussion. It's like riding by a car crash...you can't help but look.
jakeman
Well-Known Member
I also get extremely upset when the fuse blows in Carousel of Progress. Think of all the death and destruction from the power going out in a whole city block. You even hear people's final moments right before a horrific car crash.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
The whole point of buying a bride is to legitimize forced sexual contact. Until recently the overwhelming belief was that rape could not occur within marriage as marriage was deemed to be perpetual and constant consent.
jakeman
Well-Known Member
Strangely enough also until about an hour ago the overwhelming belief was that PotC wasn't "rapey".
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.....you mean if I didn't care about the contact being legitimized I could stop buying brides?
jakeman
Well-Known Member
Your point?
Pretty sure the overwhelming belief is still that PotC isn't "rapey".
Disney overreaction from 20 years ago doesn't change that.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
It's not some new observations. And again, buying a bride (which is clearly depicted) is all about rape.
jakeman
Well-Known Member
Not really. It's about buying a bride. You can take it to that far if you want, but if you did that with every scene across WDW, you end up with some pretty morbid messages.
Have you ever considered you just look too far into things instead of enjoying them for what they are?
Otterhead
Well-Known Member
Exactly. I'm not being ultra-PC here, folks. That's what pirates DID. They raped and pillaged, and quite honestly, I think it's great that Disney still has a ride that's so un-PC that it's got a Bride Auction alongside all the pillaging and stuff. Apparently using the "r-word" makes people freak out, as opposed to "women sold as brides". Got it!
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Because it's not the same thing you maniac. Holy moly.
Otterhead
Well-Known Member
Oh! I'm a maniac now. Wow, you people are hilarious!
Jesus christ. I'm sorry I used the "r word" to explain what's actually happening in your favorite ride. Did you never realize what pirates do with women they steal from towns they're pillaging? Haha! Wow! Amazing!
By the way: the ghosts in Haunted Mansion are meant to be dead people who died. Sorry if that's a shock too!