News Walt Disney World's COVID-19 reopening plans announced - July 11

Parker in NYC

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Most of the neck gaiters are made in a single layer of a synthetic fabric that stretches. Some are so thin and stretched you can see through them. When fibers are stretched in either or both directions, they create tiny openings that can allow microbes in/out.

Other types of masks made from fabrics with too much stretch are also not the best choice, but they're better if they are multilayered. The best choice for cloth masks are fabrics with very little stretch, tight weaves.

Short version: Right choice to reject gaiters.

Gaiters are often considered manly-man alternatives (yes women wear them, too, and men who are secure in their masculinity), so I'm sure there are more than a few who have been forced against their will to wear pansy masks... and aren't too happy about it.
 

jinx8402

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Gaiters are often considered manly-man alternatives (yes women wear them, too, and men who are secure in their masculinity), so I'm sure there are more than a few who have been forced against their will to wear pansy masks... and aren't too happy about it.

They are more comfortable and breathable though, so I get the appeal to want to wear them. Which is why I bought some when others talked about them being comfortable.

The problem is, the reason they are comfortable and breathable is because they are ineffective for the intentions of wearing a mask to prevent spread. Which is why I stopped using them.
 

DisneyOutsider

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Gaiters are often considered manly-man alternatives (yes women wear them, too, and men who are secure in their masculinity), so I'm sure there are more than a few who have been forced against their will to wear pansy masks... and aren't too happy about it.
Too insecure about their manhood to wear the same mask that everyone else is wearing? Sounds like the opposite of "manly man" to me. Sounds like a little child.
 

Brooklin Disney Dad

Active Member
For one, the capacity on buses has been reduced by more than half. That means there will only be a small handful of parties getting on any given bus. Wait times for a bus will likely increase during peak times of the day

Second, you do not want to be in a bus environment with your family right now. It's a higher risk activity and just not worth it considering you can easily just get your own car and thus set your own schedule and not worry about physical distancing/mask wearing/what other people on a bus are/aren't doing.

Disney's Magical Express will be dealing with the same neutering of capacity as well with the same set of concerns.

Renting a car should be a slam dunk for WDW guests right now.

We always rent because we stay off site, where parking is not an additional cost. It costs us $22 (or whatever the new rate is) per park visit for our family of 5. Can’t get an extra meal for 5 with that. Other than MK, we walk to our car (even when trams were running) to avoid being herded like cattle to the slaughter.
Sadly, Disney added parking fees for resort guests to push them to use busses and promote their transportation system. They should waive the resort parking fees during this time to further support Covid safety.
 

beertiki

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The neck gaiter has been worn by fisherman for years. I had about 10 of them before Covid. A long day of fishing in the Keys is best done in long sleeves, hat, and neck gator pulled up over the nose. No sun exposure except for legs. It keeps you cooler, and avoids sweaty sunblock in your eyes.

Some gaiter have tiny holes or a different tninner fabric in the mouth area to make breathing easier. While offering good sun protection, they would be useless for Covid.

My guess for the main reason they were banned is many have prints of skulls or other scary faces that would scare many children.
 

DisneyOutsider

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We always rent because we stay off site, where parking is not an additional cost. It costs us $22 (or whatever the new rate is) per park visit for our family of 5. Can’t get an extra meal for 5 with that. Other than MK, we walk to our car (even when trams were running) to avoid being herded like cattle to the slaughter.
Sadly, Disney added parking fees for resort guests to push them to use busses and promote their transportation system. They should waive the resort parking fees during this time to further support Covid safety.
I don't necessarily disagree with the bit about waiving parking fees.. BUT... doing so would essentially be them telling everyone that their own transportation infrastructure is not safe.
 

markc

Active Member
I don't necessarily disagree with the bit about waiving parking fees.. BUT... doing so would essentially be them telling everyone that their own transportation infrastructure is not safe.

No it wouldn't. It simply would be telling people, the more we can distance, the better! Everybody knows the risks of public transportation.
 

Mainahman

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We were not park drivers before any of this, and not that i fear getting sick on a bus, but i like to be at the park at a decent time. to me i rather not sit on a disney bus this go round, when i can sit in my air conditioned car, without my mask on, as its just my travel party. Im paying for my car to be on property anyways, and i get free parking at the parks anyways, so why not just do it myself.
I can tell cheezy jokes like the best bus drivers!
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Interesting about the gaiters... some gaiters are double layered correct? And some masks are single level correct?

So I’m not sure I understand why that rule makes sense unless they are also concerned about a choking hazard if it was snagged on an attraction. That’s what I assumed the issue with gaiters was since they allow them at springs.
 

Mainahman

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Interesting about the gaiters... some gaiters are double layered correct? And some masks are single level correct?

So I’m not sure I understand why that rule makes sense unless they are also concerned about a choking hazard if it was snagged on an attraction. That’s what I assumed the issue with gaiters was since they allow them at springs.
Could also be a cash grab. they sell standards right on site, so if someone tries, they can buy one there...
 

chrisvee

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Interesting about the gaiters... some gaiters are double layered correct? And some masks are single level correct?

So I’m not sure I understand why that rule makes sense unless they are also concerned about a choking hazard if it was snagged on an attraction. That’s what I assumed the issue with gaiters was since they allow them at springs.
The rec for reusable masks is usually more than one layer, cotton not polyester, tightly woven, snug fitting to increase effectivenness.
 

Ben_since_1971

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For one, the capacity on buses has been reduced by more than half. That means there will only be a small handful of parties getting on any given bus. Wait times for a bus will likely increase during peak times of the day

Second, you do not want to be in a bus environment with your family right now. It's a higher risk activity and just not worth it considering you can easily just get your own car and thus set your own schedule and not worry about physical distancing/mask wearing/what other people on a bus are/aren't doing.

Disney's Magical Express will be dealing with the same neutering of capacity as well with the same set of concerns.

Renting a car should be a slam dunk for WDW guests right now.
Gotta admit, had not thought this through about renting a car until I saw your posts. First thought was cost prohibitive, especially if you throw in the resort parking fee. But if you think about it, for the reasons you mention, taking a car to parks or DS greay reduces risk from being enclosed with others (despite best efforts to minimize bus capacity and you know bus stops will not be adequately spaced).

I am staying at CBR. Solo trip. Cost of car minus food savings from making a walmart run plus reduced risk may make the trip doable. Drive to MK, AK, and DS. Skyliner to EP and HS.
 

milordsloth

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Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance will once again use virtual queue boarding groups

I can't tell if this is a good thing or bad. I guess good in the sense that I don't spend as much time in line, potentially. I also imagine it won't be too hard to get a boarding pass with the low attendance, right?
 

DisneyOutsider

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Gotta admit, had not thought this through about renting a car until I saw your posts. First thought was cost prohibitive, especially if you throw in the resort parking fee. But if you think about it, for the reasons you mention, taking a car to parks or DS greay reduces risk from being enclosed with others (despite best efforts to minimize bus capacity and you know bus stops will not be adequately spaced).

I am staying at CBR. Solo trip. Cost of car minus food savings from making a walmart run plus reduced risk may make the trip doable. Drive to MK, AK, and DS. Skyliner to EP and HS.
It will almost certainly save you time as well
 

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