News Walt Disney World to resume sales of Annual Passes (New sales resume April 20, 2023)

GhostHost1000

Premium Member
if I was to buy a AP voucher when they become available and go by guest relations within a year to “get” my annual pass…is there any time limit I can then hold onto that inside my Disney experience app (as long as I don’t activate it at a gate yet)?
 

Chip Chipperson

Well-Known Member
I believe renewal is still cheaper than first time purchase, but both have gone up continually. Otherwise people would play the nickel and dime game to space out passes and Disney would ultimately lose more money. The idea is to keep them on the AP so that they keep thinking they need to go and get value from it.
Correct. The last time I renewed was a 15% renewal discount. They even applied it to the PhotoPass that I added to my pass.
 

BoardWalkin'

Well-Known Member
Just spoke with DVC MS. I wanted to make sure that new passes were the same as in the past where they are not activated until first use and then good for 365 days from that date. She said that that is the way they have always been in the past, but she does not know if that will change with these new passes. MS got the same email that all members got this morning but they did not get any additional information so they are as clueless as we are on the details.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Just spoke with DVC MS. I wanted to make sure that new passes were the same as in the past where they are not activated until first use and then good for 365 days from that date. She said that that is the way they have always been in the past, but she does not know if that will change with these new passes. MS got the same email that all members got this morning but they did not get any additional information so they are as clueless as we are on the details.
That is the only way they can do it. You can’t get away with depleting a product when it’s not in use based on “sale date”

Now if they wanted to switch it…they could go to a calendar year model…but that doesn’t really work for them
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
who here doesn't love a good android vs. apple debate!?!?
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Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
This is certainly the way I was thinking...

@scrozier73 posted above that dates now go by purchase date and not first usage so I got concerned and contacted MS but she couldn't confirm one way or another. Since our APs expired at the start of covid, I am clueless to the changes that have been made.
I believe that to be incorrect.

That’s mostly experience speaking…but also common sense.

So say that only sell them 4/13-4/27 (likely…actually)…
And as a dvc I jump on because I’m planning two trips next year…one in January and one in may. And maybe looking for another in the fall?

So only one is covered by the pass?

Nah…Disney is a tad ballsy…but there is a guardrail even for them.

It’s for activation periods…they have constant steam of data to use and computers to adjust what they sell and when, staffing, etc.
 

correcaminos

Well-Known Member
To Zappy..... Your annual pass renewal date goes by the date your purchase pass. Not 1st day of usage. So if you buy april 20th 2023 your renewal date is april 20th 2024. Even renewing pass reverts back to original date if you renew in the 30 day window after expiration. Read the renewal guidelines if you plan on renewing in future once you are able to buy annual pass. If memory serves me right you have from 60 days prior to renewal date to 30 days after to renew. So a total of 90 day window 60 before 30 after to renew your pass or passes. Also if your lucky enough to get annual passes be sure to look into the benefits you receive. You get good discounts on food and shopping and tickets to events like Disney's waterparks and those special after hours events. Just tell whomever your annual passholder and they will check your id and bam you get $ off if they take ap discount. Good luck. Hopefully this doesnt end up selling out in record time lol. I am sure it will go quickly. Sucks to have to buy now if your not using for months and months but I am sure they will sell out if you wait too long. My family has had annual passes for roughly 6 years now. If you visit 2 times a year depending on length of stay it's worth upgrading to annual pass in my opinion. We are from PA so annual passes work well for our family. It's nice to not have the hassle of buying regular tickets when we decide to go. Just hop on park reservations site book em and enjoy.
Renewals go by expiration date, not when purchased. I just renewed today. 60 days prior to expiration. My next AP will expire June 2024. Currently mine expires June of 2023. When you purchase doesn't matter.
I honestly question if they have any clue what the point is?

And sadly…I’m just being a clown when I say that


But the vibe they’re giving is that renewals will go away. We’ll see
Since they added new buys I disagree. Or do you mean the discount? Maybe. Buying new vs renewal wasn't always much different so many did space out 2 trips on 1 AP. Threatening to shut down APs will keep some renewing just to keep status. Some even if it's not a great value.

Not sure why people think date of us/vs purchase for new is changing. Everything today pointed to same as usual when I called. Can you imagine saying you have to buy an AP just to get park reservations but you're paying for those months just to hold it?
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
To Zappy..... Your annual pass renewal date goes by the date your purchase pass. Not 1st day of usage. So if you buy april 20th 2023 your renewal date is april 20th 2024. Even renewing pass reverts back to original date if you renew in the 30 day window after expiration. Read the renewal guidelines if you plan on renewing in future once you are able to buy annual pass. If memory serves me right you have from 60 days prior to renewal date to 30 days after to renew. So a total of 90 day window 60 before 30 after to renew your pass or passes. Also if your lucky enough to get annual passes be sure to look into the benefits you receive. You get good discounts on food and shopping and tickets to events like Disney's waterparks and those special after hours events. Just tell whomever your annual passholder and they will check your id and bam you get $ off if they take ap discount. Good luck. Hopefully this doesnt end up selling out in record time lol. I am sure it will go quickly. Sucks to have to buy now if your not using for months and months but I am sure they will sell out if you wait too long. My family has had annual passes for roughly 6 years now. If you visit 2 times a year depending on length of stay it's worth upgrading to annual pass in my opinion. We are from PA so annual passes work well for our family. It's nice to not have the hassle of buying regular tickets when we decide to go. Just hop on park reservations site book em and enjoy.
Sorry but have no idea where you get this. Renewals go by the date of your original pass. New passes go by first use within the first year.
 

CastAStone

5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
Premium Member
Not trying to sound rude (so just know that isn't my tone), but why make a comment that airfare is expensive now when I can find tickets literally 25% of the price you cited?

I assume in your time flying you've grown to understand there really isn't much of a difference between any major airline in the US if you know how they each operate ahead of time, at least, in my less flying than you (but still significant) I've honestly only had a problem with Delta and Southwest, never Spirit/Frontier/Norwegian/Lufthansa/HK Airlines/British Airways/Virgin/AirFrance/Alitalia, etc. Personal experiences aren't particularly the best to extrapolate data unless you have a large sample size, which you do, so I don't know, I just don't quite get what's so elite about delta's base coach over competitors that justifies spending 2-4 times more on.

I mean, even if someone bought food on the plane, got a checked bag, and bought a portable charger because someone didn't know that Spirit didn't have TVs and they needed to charge their phone to watch Netflix on their 4-hour flight, it would still be way cheaper than Delta/United/American, so I don't really see the point in relying on one airline like Delta when competitors offer colossal discounts, especially for such a short flight.

That is of course if price matters to you, it might not, but you commented on it, so just food for thought. I'm willing to go on more trips than I otherwise would be able to if it means I don't get to go on a better-branded plane or stay at an $800 a night hotel and choose a $150 one because frankly, there is zero difference for a short flight so long as it's safe, and likewise for a hotel if it is purely an accommodation to rest at night. If I was in a situation where the only way I could even afford one vacation to anywhere, I would also take budget airlines where possible, as unless it's on a company's dime that doesn't impact me, I've become disillusioned by the cuts Delta and others have had to their service and food quality and leg-room that the cabin experience is legitimately equal to Delta for me.

I've been on a fix recently of trying to do more unexpected trips (beyond just Disney) as cheaply as possible but not sacrificing the overall quality and I've realized airline tickets and hotels are such a massive money-sink that finding the best value for those two items legitimately can have zero impact on just routine vacations. Now if someone is time limited and they can only do 1 trip and can afford it, by all means, splurge, but I think the average person overspends for no reason other than the feeling a brand provides, when the net difference with its opportunity cost reveals overspending.
Delta has routinely had the fewest lost bags, delays, and cancelled flights for a decade. Not every metric every year, but overwhelmingly all three metrics go to Delta vs the other major US carriers.

Did I get you there?
Did I get you there on time?
Did I get you there on time with all of your stuff?

Seems like the answers to those three questions IS an airline’s brand.
 

Tony the Tigger

Well-Known Member
Ridiculous.

Back to locals contributing to high crowds. The big spending international tourists and out of state tourists really get hurt by this.
Your assertion is what’s ridiculous. I spend more in one signature dinner than Denver family of 5 with cheese sandwiches in their backpacks clogging up lines all day.

There is no wrong way to do Disney, but don’t put your nonsense resentment on Floridians.
 

Jrb1979

Well-Known Member
Your assertion is what’s ridiculous. I spend more in one signature dinner than Denver family of 5 with cheese sandwiches in their backpacks clogging up lines all day.

There is no wrong way to do Disney, but don’t put your nonsense resentment on Floridians.
What an elitist attitude.
 

CntrlFlPete

Well-Known Member
So NEW purchases of Incredi-Pass do not have blackout dates around Christmas?

it's really not that simple. For one that lives close, there is risk -- for ones that will only visit for Christmas, there might be limits.

You still need to have a park reservation. Someone visiting in DEC (for that quarter) might not have an issue making a reservation in advance, BUT, I do not know how many reservations one can have in advance. If it is a 10 day trip planned and one has a restriction of only 7 res at a time, well, risk comes back. For a local, when do you look in dates and still go for Thanksgiving, what do you tie up for NOV and when?

A visit to Disney is complicated -- soon for AP's not so much AFTER 2pm -- save MK where you might need to check into Epcot and hop to MK (if hopping is allowed for non-reservation folks.
 

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