News Walt Disney World restaurants to begin expanding plant-based menu options

mdcpr

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We'll probably find out that the "plant-based" menu options are actually Soylent Green.
I wonder how many people that drink this know about where the brand name comes from.
 

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DisneyDaver

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"I'll have the vegan burger with kale and quinoa... and could you put some bacon and cheese on that, please?" ;)

It's interesting how palates change after years of changing ones diet. 15 years ago, my mouth would water at the words bacon and cheese, but now I have zero interest in either. Doesn't sound appealing to me at all. But a vegan burger with kale and quinoa ...yum!!!
 

Horizons '83

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In the Parks
No
Everything is made of chemical? Try going on a chemical-free diet for four days and see what happens.
It’s nearly impossible (pun not intended:p) to go chemical free, but you might as well eat a real burger that has no chemicals the. A chemical laden fake burger. Or better yet. Not eat a burger :)
 

bUU

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It's not healthier, it's just different.
Generally speaking, integrating more plant-based food into the typical American diet is healthier and also as a bonus is better for the planet. Now, individual plant-based options may not be healthier than what they replace, but they're typically "just as healthy". The example many people give these days is with regard to burgers. Impossible Burgers and Beyond Burgers aren't healthier, even though they're plant-based. They are, however, just as healthy as the beef burgers that they're replacing, and they're still better for the planet. However, Disney happens to be at the forefront of plant-based options at theme parks, and most of their plant-based options are actually healthier than what that person would have eaten had they chosen one of Disney's meat options.
 

bUU

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It's not true plant based and has as many chemicals in it then a bottle of RoundUp.
Roundup weed killer chemicals have been found in Cheerios and Quaker Oats, too. And unless you are buying your meat from the farmer who lovingly grew the cattle from a calf, then expect to find traces of homones, antibiotics and other chemicals in your beef, not to mention dioxins and heavy metals.

Needless to say, our whole food system is afflicted by how we have tried and continue to try to feed a growing population using innovation and science. The reality is that without these things, we could not possibly product enough food to feed 7 billion people. Some would say perhaps we shouldn't be trying to feed 7 billion people, but that's neither here nor there - we have 7 billion people and feeding them is a higher priority than immediately rolling back to world without these advances.

We can try to do better in the future, and we are. And moving towards plant-based diets is one of the most effectively way to do so. There is simply no practicable way to produce the amount of meat and poultry we're producing now without resorting to CAFOs and their cruel and damaging practices. Therefore, the only way to cut down on the negative ramifications of CAFOs is to need fewer of them, by replacing a great deal of our meat consumption with plant-based consumption, which is substantially more efficient per acre of land and per gallon of water, and substantially less polluting (not to mention, not cruel).
 

bUU

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Try it, my husband had it and he could not tell the difference.
To be fair, whenever you eat a Whopper you're mostly just tasting *Whopper* - the toppings mostly overwhelm the taste of the protein. Anyone who is focusing so much on trying to discern the difference between a regular Whopper and an Impossible Whopper is not really interested in enjoying the food they eat anyway.

Strip things down to the burgers alone, no buns and no condiments, and you surely should be able to tell the difference more readily. I suspect that, as someone who hasn't eaten beef in over ten years, I probably couldn't tell the difference, but a connoisseur of beef almost surely could. However, that's not to say that they'd truly enjoy the taste of the beef better. Enjoyment is a reflection of expectations fulfilled. If you're expecting the hallmarks of beef, then beef will probably fulfill those expectations better. If, instead, you set aside such expectations and just assess what you're eating for what it (whatever it is) offers, then you might prefer the Impossible Burger.

Having said all that, the Beyond Burger (2.0) is different. I think it is far better than the Impossible Burger, and far better than what I remember of beef. I think anyone who goes into eating food with a mind truly open to what the food can offer will prefer the Beyond Burger to either the Impossible Burger or beef.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
Roundup weed killer chemicals have been found in Cheerios and Quaker Oats, too. And unless you are buying your meat from the farmer who lovingly grew the cattle from a calf, then expect to find traces of homones, antibiotics and other chemicals in your beef, not to mention dioxins and heavy metals.

Needless to say, our whole food system is afflicted by how we have tried and continue to try to feed a growing population using innovation and science. The reality is that without these things, we could not possibly product enough food to feed 7 billion people. Some would say perhaps we shouldn't be trying to feed 7 billion people, but that's neither here nor there - we have 7 billion people and feeding them is a higher priority than immediately rolling back to world without these advances.

We can try to do better in the future, and we are. And moving towards plant-based diets is one of the most effectively way to do so. There is simply no practicable way to produce the amount of meat and poultry we're producing now without resorting to CAFOs and their cruel and damaging practices. Therefore, the only way to cut down on the negative ramifications of CAFOs is to need fewer of them, by replacing a great deal of our meat consumption with plant-based consumption, which is substantially more efficient per acre of land and per gallon of water, and substantially less polluting (not to mention, not cruel).
SonofA.

Guys got 500+ posts and 99.99% of them drive me completely batty. Then here I am scrolling through post after weird post in this thread and I finally read one I agree with, and look who the author is. Strange bedfellows indeed.
 

bUU

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Depends on the type of protein being used as not everything is cheap to produce. Of course in the USA beef is produced at a very low price (often in Brazil or Argentina for the fast food chains). Whereas in the UK it is chicken that is very cheap and beef quite expensive.
I think these discussions of cost are premature. Impossible brands just barely is building factory operations fast enough to keep up with their seemingly slow expansion of the availability of their offerings. Rarity and remarkably high upfront costs is artificially inflating the prices of these plant-based burgers. Give it five years and they'll be less expensive than beef, because supply will be plentiful and economies of scale will support lower prices.
 

bUU

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(Insert literally any change made at Disney World)

"Another obvious money grab! It's all about IP now! Next thing we know it'll be "Stitch" burgers! Disney is just the worst."

Someone posts an unflattering picture of Chapek....

On to the next thread.
Ain't it the truth!

And for those posters inclined toward insulting veg*ans, they probably look at it as a double-bonus. :(
 

bUU

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SonofA.

Guys got 500+ posts and 99.99% of them drive me completely batty. Then here I am scrolling through post after weird post in this thread and I finally read one I agree with, and look who the author is. Strange bedfellows indeed.
Indeed.

And if you dig into the foundation of those 99.99% of the posts and this 0.01% of the posts, you'll see they're all grounded in the same foundation: Reasonable expectations based on the realities of the environment, rather than assuming your personal preferences (whether they be vegan or meat-eating) are objective analysis.
 

higgipoker

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...I think anyone who goes into eating food with a mind truly open to what the food can offer will prefer the Beyond Burger to either the Impossible Burger or beef.
Yeap. We were served a beef burger by mistake last year at ABC. Not knowing any better at the time we ate it, and noticed how awful their "vegan burger" was compared to the other locations in the parks.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
Better than mom's that trick their kids into eating animals without fully explaining how meat is "produced".
At what age should I expose my child to the many horrors of our world? He's five now, I figure we start off by really exposing him to a slaughter house. Yeah? Just like, head on down to the old chicken wing factory and show him where his nuggets really come from?
 

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