News Walt Disney World restaurants to begin expanding plant-based menu options

[Sir_Cliff]

Lol I'm straight

Yeah, we can tell from your avatar.

Don't worry, I'm sure they'll keep the tenderloin on the menu at Cinderella's Royal Table to satisfy your dietary requirements. Just make sure to let the server know you're heterosexual when your party is seated.

 

[DisneyCane]

Roundup weed killer chemicals have been found in Cheerios and Quaker Oats, too. And unless you are buying your meat from the farmer who lovingly grew the cattle from a calf, then expect to find traces of homones, antibiotics and other chemicals in your beef, not to mention dioxins and heavy metals.

Needless to say, our whole food system is afflicted by how we have tried and continue to try to feed a growing population using innovation and science. The reality is that without these things, we could not possibly product enough food to feed 7 billion people. Some would say perhaps we shouldn't be trying to feed 7 billion people, but that's neither here nor there - we have 7 billion people and feeding them is a higher priority than immediately rolling back to world without these advances.

We can try to do better in the future, and we are. And moving towards plant-based diets is one of the most effectively way to do so. There is simply no practicable way to produce the amount of meat and poultry we're producing now without resorting to CAFOs and their cruel and damaging practices. Therefore, the only way to cut down on the negative ramifications of CAFOs is to need fewer of them, by replacing a great deal of our meat consumption with plant-based consumption, which is substantially more efficient per acre of land and per gallon of water, and substantially less polluting (not to mention, not cruel).

If you want to be vegetarian or vegan or whatever, that's your prerogative. I ask the same courtesy as somebody that enjoys eating meat that vegetarians and vegans don't try to change my diet preferences and especially don't do it by making it an environmental issue. There is PLENTY of land suitable for cattle ranching or poultry farms that isn't currently used for anything. Take a ride around rural Wyoming or Montana if you don't believe me.

At one time there were 60 million American Bison roaming around the continent, so back in the untouched, natural state there was plenty of "cattle" using water and land.

 

[disney4life2008]

Yeah, we can tell from your avatar.

Don't worry, I'm sure they'll keep the tenderloin on the menu at Cinderella's Royal Table to satisfy your dietary requirements. Just make sure to let the server know you're heterosexual when your party is seated.

LOL I'm straight means I am good

 

[JohnD]

Um, "meat"?

Seriously. Plant-based “food.” Okay. But “meat” is “meat”. (ie. noun. “the flesh of animals as used for food.”)

 

[bUU]

And you ruined it.

Not at all. The fact that my comments are consistent, and you only like part of them, says nothing about me.

 

[bUU]

Just like, head on down to the old chicken wing factory and show him where his nuggets really come from?

At our church, we hold off introducing that kind of content to our children until they're seven or eight.

 

[bUU]

If you want to be vegetarian or vegan or whatever, that's your prerogative. I ask the same courtesy as somebody that enjoys eating meat that vegetarians and vegans don't try to change my diet preferences and especially don't do it by making it an environmental issue.

That's absolute nonsense. It is an environmental issue, and that has nothing to do with what a vegetarian or vegan enjoys eating.

There is PLENTY of land suitable for cattle ranching or poultry farms that isn't currently used for anything.

It isn't about the land not used, but rather about the land that is used.

https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/ehs/docs/understanding_cafos_nalboh.pdf

These kinds of problems don't happen when animals are pastured and pastures are rotated (not used for periods of time so the environment has a chance to recover.) No matter how you slice it, CAFOs are bad in every way other than volume of production, but especially bad for the environment. And that's something that every meat-eater who has children (or plans to) needs to understand, since this is a legacy they're leaving for future generations that is (since it is so widespread) comparable in cost to Chernobyl.

At one time there were 60 million American Bison roaming around the continent, so back in the untouched, natural state there was plenty of "cattle" using water and land.

Then let's go back to that: Eliminate the CAFOs and go back to pasture-only farming. Hint: There would only be enough beef for 10% of the population who wants it, and it would be incredibly expensive.

 

[DisneyCane]

That's absolute nonsense. It is an environmental issue, and that has nothing to do with what a vegetarian or vegan enjoys eating.

It isn't about the land not used, but rather about the land that is used.

https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/ehs/docs/understanding_cafos_nalboh.pdf

These kinds of problems don't happen when animals are pastured and pastures are rotated (not used for periods of time so the environment has a chance to recover.) No matter how you slice it, CAFOs are bad in every way other than volume of production, but especially bad for the environment. And that's something that every meat-eater who has children (or plans to) needs to understand, since this is a legacy they're leaving for future generations that is (since it is so widespread) comparable in cost to Chernobyl.

Then let's go back to that: Eliminate the CAFOs and go back to pasture-only farming. Hint: There would only be enough beef for 10% of the population who wants it, and it would be incredibly expensive.

Or...

We can use innovation to figure out a way to collect and deal with the manure that may increase cost a small amount. However, unless the entire world agrees to do it, it would make American farmers uncompetitive. I don't deny that CAFOs exist for cows and hogs. However, the cow and hog farms that I've personally seen are pastures and I've spent a decent amount of time driving in the Midwest (Illinois, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, South Dakota, Wyoming and Montana).

When having a reasonable discussion it is best not to invoke hyperbole like comparing CAFOs to Chernobyl. A nuclear disaster on the scale of Chernobyl leaves an area uninhabitable. There are plenty of CAFOs that will eventually be developed as suburban sprawl continues over the next decades. They are not comparable.

I don't understand why vegetarians and, especially, vegans are hell bent on imposing their diet choices on others. The earth is surviving just fine with us immoral meat eaters buying protein that is farmed on CAFOs.

Everything does not need to become a political issue. Diet choice and farming methods (as long as animals aren't abused) tops the list of things that don't need to be added to the toxic political climate. The last thing we need is one party adding veganism to their platform.

Everybody should have the freedom to choose what food they consume and where the food they decide to purchase was produced. I have absolutely no issue with Disney adding plant based foods to their menus so that they can make the same profit (or more) off of vegans and vegetarians as they make off of me when I buy a burger.

 

[John park hopper]

As a meat eater and one who hunts and eats venison and feral hogs and fishes I must be OK with militant vegans--- the meat I eat is all natural no chemicals

 

[larryz]

As a meat eater and one who hunts and eats venison and feral hogs and fishes I must be OK with militant vegans--- the meat I eat is all natural no chemicals

I think you're saying that militant vegans would approve of your carnivorous habits.

On my first read, however, I interpreted your sentence as saying you plan to eat militant vegans.

 

[John park hopper]

I think you're saying that militant vegans would approve of your carnivorous habits.

On my first read, however, I interpreted your sentence as saying you plan to eat militant vegans.

Have no intention of eating militant vegans (probably be tough) yes, they should be approving of my carnivorous habits (it's all natural)

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Or...

We can use innovation to figure out a way to collect and deal with the manure that may increase cost a small amount. However, unless the entire world agrees to do it, it would make American farmers uncompetitive. I don't deny that CAFOs exist for cows and hogs. However, the cow and hog farms that I've personally seen are pastures and I've spent a decent amount of time driving in the Midwest (Illinois, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, South Dakota, Wyoming and Montana).

When having a reasonable discussion it is best not to invoke hyperbole like comparing CAFOs to Chernobyl. A nuclear disaster on the scale of Chernobyl leaves an area uninhabitable. There are plenty of CAFOs that will eventually be developed as suburban sprawl continues over the next decades. They are not comparable.

I don't understand why vegetarians and, especially, vegans are hell bent on imposing their diet choices on others. The earth is surviving just fine with us immoral meat eaters buying protein that is farmed on CAFOs.

Everything does not need to become a political issue. Diet choice and farming methods (as long as animals aren't abused) tops the list of things that don't need to be added to the toxic political climate. The last thing we need is one party adding veganism to their platform.

Everybody should have the freedom to choose what food they consume and where the food they decide to purchase was produced. I have absolutely no issue with Disney adding plant based foods to their menus so that they can make the same profit (or more) off of vegans and vegetarians as they make off of me when I buy a burger.

I've known a few vegans/vegetarians who were absolutely obnoxious in their desire to force their choices on the rest of the world...one of them actually thought it was funny to bug me all day at work on the regular...she was lucky I didn't punch her lights out at one point.

I'm not a fan of how we produce much of the food we consume. Hopefully meat/food co-ops will continue to rise in popularity.

Now...someone pass me a Bambi sandwich with a side of Wilbur, please.

 

[John park hopper]

Sad fact is as the population has grown in order to feed the masses big agri conglomerates have gotten in the business of mass production of caged chicken and hog production thus keep prices down --supply up

 

[Timmay]

At what age should I expose my child to the many horrors of our world? He's five now, I figure we start off by really exposing him to a slaughter house. Yeah? Just like, head on down to the old chicken wing factory and show him where his nuggets really come from?

Why not? Kids of the same age that live on ranches and take their prized animal to the county fair know exactly what the outcome is going to be.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

At what age should I expose my child to the many horrors of our world? He's five now, I figure we start off by really exposing him to a slaughter house. Yeah? Just like, head on down to the old chicken wing factory and show him where his nuggets really come from?

Why not? Kids of the same age that live on ranches and take their prized animal to the county fair know exactly what the outcome is going to be.

Most kids make the connection with chicken or fish because we call the meat the same thing we call the live animal. My boys each came right out and asked once they did. I was honest, but not graphic. My oldest loves chicken and would eat it all day if I let him.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

A Whopper?

What's the point?

FTFY!

 

[networkpro]

Better than mom's that trick their kids into eating animals without fully explaining how meat is "produced".

So exactly how can you exert your moral superiority while hunt/gathering all of the foods you eat in the supermarket? I've raised and consumed my own cattle, chicken, ducks, and plenty of vegetables.

Livestock can produce consumable biomass from areas unsuitable for crops. Humans cannot digest cellulosic material.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Why not? Kids of the same age that live on ranches and take their prized animal to the county fair know exactly what the outcome is going to be.

Absolutely. I have a friend in Idaho who raises sheep, and her children have all always known. They also keep a rifle next to the door to protect their livestock and the kids also knew to never touch it - to the point where when one of them was asked to retrieve it in an emergency, they hesitated.

 

[piglet21]

I love this! My family eats meatless meals 2-3 times per week and red meat only occasionally to help reduce our carbon footprint. On vacation we usually throw caution to the wind a bit, but after eating a few meat heavy meals we're usually feeling pretty sluggish. I'm going to love having more plant-based options for when I need a meat break As long as they don't reduce meat based options, I don't see how this could be a bad thing?

 

[Lilofan]

Plant based options may get some to try it may like it and switch away from red meat however there are no guarantees. Considering how there are so many obese people in the USA ... I remember way back when we used to make fun of the lone fat kid in class..