News Walt Disney World and other major Disney accounts stop posting on social media platform X

[adam.adbe]

I don’t know why you think this is some kind of gotcha, other than Elon telling you it is. It’s not like Twitter doesn’t have its own problems with child exploitation. Elon personally approved the reinstatement of a user who was banned for showing child sex material. You’ve conveniently overlooked that fact, even though it’s been pointed out to you more than once.

I think CSAM related content is genuinely more of an on Meta than X, and there's evidence out there that Meta's engagement algorithms are potentially guiding users into continuously more questionable content.

That said, this is an issue Meta wants to fix, even if they seem utterly clueless as to how.

 

[LittleBuford]

I understand your perspective, but wouldn't you think it's at least within the realm of possibility that Iger doesn't like Musk very much because of his various positions on social issues, and probably less so now that he embarrassed him publicly and told him to go **** himself, and that is at least part of the reason they pulled ads?

Even if there is a personal element to it (and I honestly have no idea—I’m much less invested in Musk or Iger than many here seem to be), Disney is far from alone in taking this position.

 

[Brian]

Even if there is a personal element to it (and I honestly have no idea—I’m much less invested in Musk or Iger than many here seem to be), Disney is far from alone in taking this position.

Indeed, but Iger is pretty much aligned with the political and social views of the other CEOs whose companies pulled ads, and those views clash with Musk's in many regards.

Whether it was merely the 'cherry on top,' or the primary or even sole motivating factor, I don't know... I'm not Iger, nor am I in his inner circle. But I'm reasonably sure it was at least part of the equation.

 

[MandaM]

I understand your perspective, but wouldn't you think it's at least within the realm of possibility that Iger doesn't like Musk very much because of his various positions on social issues, and probably less so now that he embarrassed him publicly and told him to go **** himself, and that is at least part of the reason they pulled ads?

I think you’ve got it backwards. Many companies pulled their advertising from Twitter after his endorsing antisemitism. So why is he only coming after Disney? It certainly seems within the realm of possibility that Elon doesn’t like Iger because of Iger’s positions on social issues.

Elon’s vendetta and temper tantrum against one of his former advertisers isn’t going to help all that ad revenue come back. I’m sure Elon will find someone else to blame for it, though. For him and his fanboys, it’s never Elon’s fault.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I understand your perspective, but wouldn't you think it's at least within the realm of possibility that Iger doesn't like Musk very much because of his various positions on social issues, and probably less so now that he embarrassed him publicly and told him to go **** himself, and that is at least part of the reason they pulled ads?

And Iger waited a year because?

 

[LittleBuford]

Indeed, but Iger is pretty much aligned with the political and social views of the other CEOs whose companies pulled ads, and those views clash with Musk's in many regards.

Whether it was merely the 'cherry on top,' or the primary or even sole motivating factor, I don't know... I'm not Iger, nor am I in his inner circle. But I'm reasonably sure it was at least part of the equation.

I don’t care about petty squabbles between a bunch of rich men about whom I know next to nothing. The tweet he endorsed was egregious; that’s all that matters to me.

 

[Brian]

And Iger waited a year because?

He was waiting for an opportunity such as this to present itself where he can blame it on something other than personal grievances.

I think you’ve got it backwards. Many companies pulled their advertising from Twitter after his endorsing antisemitism. So why is he only coming after Disney? It certainly seems within the realm of possibility that Elon doesn’t like Iger because of Iger’s positions on social issues.

Elon’s vendetta and temper tantrum against one of his former advertisers isn’t going to help all that ad revenue come back. I’m sure Elon will find someone else to blame for it, though. For him and his fanboys, it’s never Elon’s fault.

I think he comes after Disney because they're a popular target for conservatives these days, in some ways by their own making. Though I will certainly concede that I don't think Musk likes Iger's positions on social issues either, Iger is the buyer in this case, and Musk certainly wouldn't be turning away his money.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Indeed, but Iger is pretty much aligned with the political and social views of the other CEOs whose companies pulled ads, and those views clash with Musk's in many regards.

Whether it was merely the 'cherry on top,' or the primary or even sole motivating factor, I don't know... I'm not Iger, nor am I in his inner circle. But I'm reasonably sure it was at least part of the equation.

Other then that, Iger frequently works with people with whom he disagrees politically. Much of the criticism of Iger is that he's a soulless, impersonal business automaton. He makes decisions to make money.

The idea Musk embarrassed Iger is absurd. Iger is far more self-confident then Musk and realizes that his little tantrum made Musk look like a tiny little man to anyone who wasn't already a Musk sycophant.

 

[MandaM]

He was waiting for an opportunity such as this to present itself where he can blame it on something other than personal grievances.


I think he comes after Disney because they're a popular target for conservatives these days, in some ways by their own making. Though I will certainly concede that I don't think Musk likes Iger's positions on social issues either, Iger is the buyer in this case, and Musk certainly wouldn't be turning away his money.

So, Elon’s the one who turned this personal. And continues to make it personal. For everybody but Elon toadies, he’s embarrassing himself, not Iger. Iger looks like the adult in the room.

 

[adam.adbe]

So, Elon’s the one who turned this personal. And continues to make it personal. For everybody but Elon toadies, he’s embarrassing himself, not Iger. Iger looks like the adult in the room.

I can't begin to imagine how he thinks publicly insulting past/present/potential customers is going to endear him to other customers.

 

[JoeCamel]

I can't begin to imagine how he thinks publicly insulting past/present/potential customers is going to endear him to other customers.

Or his investors.......

 

[flynnibus]

He was waiting for an opportunity such as this to present itself where he can blame it on something other than personal grievances.

lol...

Iger for the last year...

 

[Ayla]

I think you’ve got it backwards. Many companies pulled their advertising from Twitter after his endorsing antisemitism. So why is he only coming after Disney? It certainly seems within the realm of possibility that Elon doesn’t like Iger because of Iger’s positions on social issues.

Elon’s vendetta and temper tantrum against one of his former advertisers isn’t going to help all that ad revenue come back. I’m sure Elon will find someone else to blame for it, though. For him and his fanboys, it’s never Elon’s fault.

Exactly. Everything "bad" that happens to him is always someone else's fault.

 

[Stripes]

Here’s an interesting quote from the WSJ:

In April, at a brand conference, Musk pointed to Apple’s continued business with the platform to suggest it is safe for others. “It’s worth noting that…Apple has remained a major advertiser,” Musk said at the event near Miami. “Disney has remained a major advertiser—they literally advertise children’s shows on Twitter—and they wouldn’t do that if it was filled with hate speech.”

I wonder what his position is now. He is now accusing Disney of advertising on other platforms despite inappropriate content when earlier this year he was claiming that the fact that Disney was advertising on Twitter was proof there wasn’t hate speech on Twitter. You can’t make this up!

 

[mkt]

Keep telling yourself that.

After the report about Insta and Meta, Iger along with the other boycotters look like complete fools.

Millions are seeing the hypocrisy of these virtue signaling companies first hand that unilaterally boycott over a tweet that wasn't intended to be what it came off as, yet have no problem with their ads being on platforms that willingly and knowingly allow the exploitation of minors... Not a good look.

Fine.

As a (only recently former) marketer, what about as a business decision? Even before Elon, X/Twitter consistently was the least effective social media network to advertise on, and was regularly included as a free "value add" through media agencies for purchasing FB/IG/YT ad space - traits that have NOT improved since Elon took over.

 

[asianway]

I think CSAM related content is genuinely more of an on Meta than X, and there's evidence out there that Meta's engagement algorithms are potentially guiding users into continuously more questionable content.

That said, this is an issue Meta wants to fix, even if they seem utterly clueless as to how.

I haven’t seen any updates recently but I saw a doc a guy put together on the hashtag combos that would unlock this stuff truly sick individuals but it was insta focused

 

[willtravel]

Exactly. Everything "bad" that happens to him is always someone else's fault.

And you don't think Iger does that?

 

[Casper Gutman]

And you don't think Iger does that?

Iger is an incredibly skilled executive. Part of that is being adept at escaping and shifting blame. That's a political tool and, while unattractive, is nowhere near Musk's deep-rooted need to see himself as a constant victim (one of the sources of his weakness for conspiracy theories).

 

[Lilofan]

Iger is an incredibly skilled executive. Part of that is being adept at escaping and shifting blame. That's a political tool and, while unattractive, is nowhere near Musk's deep-rooted need to see himself as a constant victim (one of the sources of his weakness for conspiracy theories).

Blame shifting is a defense mechanism for many. I see it on a regular basis in the workplace, media, life outside of work. Some are more skilled than others to blame others with such convincing arguments a number of followers line up and drink the Kool-Aid. Some are so adept at blame shifting that some rose up faster in the food chain with that skill . It is not the blind leading the blind rather it is the skilled con artist leading the blind and gullible.

 

[Ayla]

I am positive allowing the man who called the cold-blooded massacre of children a "hoax" back on twitter will bring companies stampeding to throw their ad money at twitter.