MK Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom

[Advisable Joseph]

As suggested by danlb_2000, I will post this here for those that are interested... The below is a screenshot from a well know development/realtor in Orlando discussing something he found on a website where projects are put out to bid. Looks like Villians Land has some kind of plans far enough along for a contractor to bid on. Job worth up to 50 million just for the construction company and work to start 60 days after bid accepted. I would say things are moving along. Just hope it gets to dirt moving.

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So the address is "Maple Rd." This could mean this is rentention pond work, etc.

I did stumple onto an interesting map online from the Orange County Property Appraiser:

According to this, the dirt road leading to the canal is technically "Maple Rd," so maybe the project has to do with the laydown yards in the area?

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Supposing the dark ride goes behind HM and IASW, it would be possible to line up its facade to allow for a view of the fireworks set to different music like DL does. Could be really cool, actually! I know the option has been explored for this land but do not know if that's the final design. They are certainly aware that they need fewer people on MSUSA.

We already just refuse to watch HEA from Main St, just too crowded and too stressful and whenever they mention adding capacity to MK I shudder about how this will just get worse - so I think having a way to spread the crowds has to be part of the design ... Otherwise we will continue to watch HEA from the Poly beach on a non-park day and ride rides during the show when we are in MK

 

[bmr1591]

We already just refuse to watch HEA from Main St, just too crowded and too stressful and whenever they mention adding capacity to MK I shudder about how this will just get worse - so I think having a way to spread the crowds has to be part of the design ... Otherwise we will continue to watch HEA from the Poly beach on a non-park day and ride rides during the show when we are in MK

My non-insider opinion: There's no way they aren't considering fireworks viewing from Villains Land and creating a second prime location to spread crowds. I know I mentioned a new parade (which I do believe will come with the opening of VL), but I would be shocked if a new nighttime spectacular doesn't come as well that is designed to be seen from both angles (hub and villains).

 

[TheCoasterNerd]

My non-insider opinion: There's no way they aren't considering fireworks viewing from Villains Land and creating a second prime location to spread crowds. I know I mentioned a new parade (which I do believe will come with the opening of VL), but I would be shocked if a new nighttime spectacular doesn't come as well that is designed to be seen from both angles (hub and villains).

I don't think they're planning to replace HEA. They saw how that went with Enchantment. I think if anything they'd just modify the existing show to be visible in both.

My biggest wonder is how they plan to hide the castle - if they truly want to immerse you in a villain land, they can't just have this giant pink and blue fantasy castle when you look behind you.

 

[Agent H]

I don't think they're planning to replace HEA. They saw how that went with Enchantment. I think if anything they'd just modify the existing show to be visible in both.

My biggest wonder is how they plan to hide the castle - if they truly want to immerse you in a villain land, they can't just have this giant pink and blue fantasy castle when you look behind you.

Answer rockwork tons and tons of rock work

 

[UNCgolf]

I don't think they're planning to replace HEA. They saw how that went with Enchantment. I think if anything they'd just modify the existing show to be visible in both.

My biggest wonder is how they plan to hide the castle - if they truly want to immerse you in a villain land, they can't just have this giant pink and blue fantasy castle when you look behind you.

They'll replace HEA eventually -- the problem with Enchantment was that it was basically just a worse version of HEA. They were very similar shows overall. Whenever they do create a new show, they need to do something different than copying HEA.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

My non-insider opinion: There's no way they aren't considering fireworks viewing from Villains Land and creating a second prime location to spread crowds. I know I mentioned a new parade (which I do believe will come with the opening of VL), but I would be shocked if a new nighttime spectacular doesn't come as well that is designed to be seen from both angles (hub and villains).

Plus new opportunity to sell dessert party/dining package viewing (like they do at Galaxy's Edge at DLR)

 

[ToTBellHop]

I don't think they're planning to replace HEA. They saw how that went with Enchantment. I think if anything they'd just modify the existing show to be visible in both.

My biggest wonder is how they plan to hide the castle - if they truly want to immerse you in a villain land, they can't just have this giant pink and blue fantasy castle when you look behind you.

They can make a separate show with its own music that works with the same pyro as DL has done. You convince people to visit 2 nights without actually running another show.

 

[TheCoasterNerd]

They can make a separate show with its own music that works with the same pyro as DL has done. You convince people to visit 2 nights without actually running another show.

That was my thought too

 

[DisDude33]

My biggest wonder is how they plan to hide the castle - if they truly want to immerse you in a villain land, they can't just have this giant pink and blue fantasy castle when you look behind you.

There are plenty of ways to block the castle from Villain’s Land, the trick is doing it in a way that blocks Villain’s Land from the rest of the park. It’s possible we could have a dark castle that looms menacingly over Fantasy Land.

They can make a separate show with its own music that works with the same pyro as DL has done. You convince people to visit 2 nights without actually running another show.

Absolutely this.

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

There are plenty of ways to block the castle from Villain’s Land, the trick is doing it in a way that blocks Villain’s Land from the rest of the park. It’s possible we could have a dark castle that looms menacingly over Fantasy Land.


Absolutely this.

Has there been something announces where they stated they are going to try and block the Castle view from VL? In addition to potential extra costs/design restrictions trying to do it, depending on the back story of the land, you could always have the castle in the distance as a symbol, like that's were the "good" people live or that's what we are taking over, ect.

 

[DisDude33]

Has there been something announces where they stated they are going to try and block the Castle view from VL? In addition to potential extra costs/design restrictions trying to do it, depending on the back story of the land, you could always have the castle in the distance as a symbol, like that's were the "good" people live or that's what we are taking over, ect.

No, there hasn’t been anything official saying that Cinderella Castle will be blocked from view in Villain’s Land. As of right now it’s just a theory some of us are going off of.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Is there really a problem if the villains can see Cinderella Castle in the distance? It’s visible from all existing lands and the heroes live in the same worlds as the villains. This is different from SWGE which really needs to feel separate from the rest of DL.

I care more that we don’t have new views in the new lands or existing lands of enormous show buildings. They are now fine with this at Epcot (and always were at DHS) but let’s not ruin MK.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Is there really a problem if the villains can see Cinderella Castle in the distance? It’s visible from all existing lands and the heroes live in the same worlds as the villains. This is different from SWGE which really needs to feel separate from the rest of DL.

I care more that we don’t have new views in the new lands or existing lands of enormous show buildings. They are now fine with this at Epcot (and always were at DHS) but let’s not ruin MK.

But how will the villains feel if they can see the castle? Maybe they'll be offended by it. We have to consider them and be inclusive of their feelings.

"Mr. Iger, TEAR DOWN THIS CASTLE!!!"

 

[ToTBellHop]

But how will the villains feel if they can see the castle? Maybe they'll be offended by it. We have to consider them and be inclusive of their feelings.

"Mr. Iger, TEAR DOWN THIS CASTLE!!!"

I want an angry Maleficent so that’s fine. I don’t want the Descendants villains. As much as I love Kathy Najimy, she’s not my Evil Queen.

 

[capndave]

Massive New Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom

Massive New Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom

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I don't like what Disney is doing by getting rid of the rivers of America and Tom Sawyers Island. This was classic Disney. I could care less about villains land.

 

[Agent H]

I want an angry Maleficent so that’s fine. I don’t want the Descendants villains. As much as I love Kathy Najimy, she’s not my Evil Queen.

All I know is I can’t wait to chill like a villain

 

[Ayla]

There are plenty of ways to block the castle from Villain’s Land, the trick is doing it in a way that blocks Villain’s Land from the rest of the park. It’s possible we could have a dark castle that looms menacingly over Fantasy Land.

Doubtful, unless they remove the Beast’s Castle.

 

[DisDude33]

All I know can’t wait to chill like a villain

It’s going to take me a while to forgive you for getting that song in my head.

 

[Agent H]

It’s going to take me a while to forgive you for getting that song in my head.

Here a different earworm