News Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom

Disstevefan1

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bmr1591 said:
I think they'll be doing mostly land work for Villains while Cars is being built.
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LSLS

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Bocabear said:
Well... looked up the dates, and SWGE took 6 years from announcement to unveiling... I would expect this Cars "Further West National Paks" land to take about the same at the least.... So....2031 for that? then unless they are building Villains at the same time, 2035-7 for Villains unveiling? At least I will hopefully be retired before it opens...lol
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For what it's worth, it was announced in 2015, construction began in 2016, and it was done in 2019.
 
Bocabear

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LSLS said:
For what it's worth, it was announced in 2015, construction began in 2016, and it was done in 2019.
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an entry I read said it was 6 years from first announcement to completion... Possibly they were talking about the first announcement that was completely sent back to the drawing board to start over.....
 
LSLS

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Bocabear said:
an entry I read said it was 6 years from first announcement to completion... Possibly they were talking about the first announcement that was completely sent back to the drawing board to start over.....
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Even if it was, with this I'd think of it more from shovels to done to get a better timeline. I doubt they wait 2-3 years to start getting things up and running on this. They did say it was underway, though I don't see a more recent image on Google Earth to tell us otherwise.
 
Gusey

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Bocabear said:
Was this supposed to be 2030 or after? I know if they begin work on Carsland in 2025, with all the ground work and demo we are looking at 5 years...and if they will not begin the Villains section until after the poorly placed Carsland opens, we would be looking at 2034-ish? to alll the people that complained their kids would be too frightened of a villains land, they will be adults by the time it opens....lol
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They said at the end of the D23 panel that everything announced would open in the next 5 years, Villains and Avatar neare probably the latest to open of everything announced (2029?). Galaxy's Edge was officially announced in 2015 and completed by 2019/2020 thanks to Rise of the Resistance's delays so Villains could always open in the next 5 years. If Villains is going the back half of TSI/RoA, foundation work could potentially begin next year too along with Cars
 
Bocabear

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I think the Liberty Belle and TSI are operating through the end of the year.... so, I don't think anything will actually start until after those cease operations..... thenthey will put up the mile of construction walls and begin in earnest.... It is a shame they can't somehow move the mill over to the other side of the river to become a walk-through set piece for Frontierland... save some portions of TSI....
 
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Gusey said:
They said at the end of the D23 panel that everything announced would open in the next 5 years, Villains and Avatar neare probably the latest to open of everything announced (2029?). Galaxy's Edge was officially announced in 2015 and completed by 2019/2020 thanks to Rise of the Resistance's delays so Villains could always open in the next 5 years. If Villains is going the back half of TSI/RoA, foundation work could potentially begin next year too along with Cars
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They did not say that everything would open in the next 5 years. After recapping everything they showed during the panel including "The New Lands, Attractions, Shows, Ships, and A Whole New Digital Universe" they said "I can't wait for you to see these projects start to come to life over the next five years."

Note that 'start to come to life' is a very deliberately vague statement but that it also includes the cruise ships that during the panel they explicitly said wouldn't be sailing until 2031.

Many of the things they talked about during the panel will open during the next five years I'm sure, but if you think that everything they mentioned will be open by Jan 1st 2030 I'm afraid you are setting yourself up for disappointment.
 
WowFactor

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MLevell said:
They did not say that everything would open in the next 5 years. After recapping everything they showed during the panel including "The New Lands, Attractions, Shows, Ships, and A Whole New Digital Universe" they said "I can't wait for you to see these projects start to come to life over the next five years."

Note that 'start to come to life' is a very deliberately vague statement but that it also includes the cruise ships that during the panel they explicitly said wouldn't be sailing until 2031.

Many of the things they talked about during the panel will open during the next five years I'm sure, but if you think that everything they mentioned will be open by Jan 1st 2030 I'm afraid you are setting yourself up for disappointment.
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"If" it opens, it will already be a win for us. My fear is that we will have the same case as Poppins, or Brazil or even Festival Center. One announced and not carried out, and one extremely hyped behind the scenes and not even announced, and the last one completely remodeled. After the backlash with the filling of RoA, anything can happen.
 
Schmidt

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MLevell said:
They did not say that everything would open in the next 5 years. After recapping everything they showed during the panel including "The New Lands, Attractions, Shows, Ships, and A Whole New Digital Universe" they said "I can't wait for you to see these projects start to come to life over the next five years."

Note that 'start to come to life' is a very deliberately vague statement but that it also includes the cruise ships that during the panel they explicitly said wouldn't be sailing until 2031.

Many of the things they talked about during the panel will open during the next five years I'm sure, but if you think that everything they mentioned will be open by Jan 1st 2030 I'm afraid you are setting yourself up for disappointment.
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I’m pretty sure he said the attractions at WDW would be open in 5yrs.
 
Disone

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WowFactor said:
"If" it opens, it will already be a win for us. My fear is that we will have the same case as Poppins, or Brazil or even Festival Center. One announced and not carried out, and one extremely hyped behind the scenes and not even announced, and the last one completely remodeled. After the backlash with the filling of RoA, anything can happen.
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This is a good point and many will counter that a lot of this we're victims of covid. But Disney has a bad history of not doing things they have fully announced that were shovel ready. During the Eisner years with the Disney decade we can add the following announced projects that never happened:
Russia pavilion for World showcase
Switzerland pavilion for World showcase
Baby Herman's baby buggy ride at Hollywood studios
The Muppet movie Ride at Hollywood studios
Mickey's movieland also on Hollywood studios.

I'm sure there's quite a few others that with the passing of time I have forgotten.

The point being that arms and legs falling off of the Epcot " revitalization" project really is not a covid exclusive. It's a pattern with the Walt Disney company. A pattern that's even more damning for anything that is " phase 2".

The dreaded phase 2, almost always a never show, here's looking at you beastly Kingdom at animal Kingdom.

And for that reason I certainly do not expect villains land to become reality. It is that dreaded phase 2. :(
 
Schmidt

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Disone said:
This is a good point and many will counter that a lot of this we're victims of covid. But Disney has a bad history of not doing things they have fully announced that were shovel ready. During the Eisner years with the Disney decade we can add the following announced projects that never happened
Russia pavilion for World showcase
Switzerland pavilion for World showcase
Baby Herman's baby buggy ride at Hollywood studios
The Muppet movie Ride at Hollywood studios
Mickey's movieland also on Hollywood studios.

I'm sure there's quite a few others that with the past enough time I have forgotten. The point being that arms and legs falling off of the Epcot " revitalization" really is not a covid exclusive. It's more of a pattern with the Walt Disney company. A pattern that's even more damning for anything that is " phase 2".

The dreaded phase 2, almost always a never show, here's looking at you beastly Kingdom at animal Kingdom.

And for that reason I certainly do not expect villains land to become reality. It is that dreaded phase 2. :(
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Villains isn’t a phase 2 project. I think that Villains and Cars are “suppose” to be built at the same time.
 
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TrainsOfDisney

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UNCgolf said:
That one wasn't on Disney, though.
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I wasn’t a big fan of “themed restaurants at the entrance of parks” idea anyways - does anyone still eat at the Rainforest Cafe at DAK?

Now if it had actually gotten built it could have been a cool addition to Downtown Disney.
 
UNCgolf

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TrainsOfDisney said:
I wasn’t a big fan of “themed restaurants at the entrance of parks” idea anyways - does anyone still eat at the Rainforest Cafe at DAK?

Now if it had actually gotten built it could have been a cool addition to Downtown Disney.
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I actually ate breakfast at that Rainforest Cafe last time I was there, although that wasn't planned. We were just hungry when we got to the park and noticed they served breakfast. It was actually pretty good, too.

I've always been a fan of Rainforest Cafe, though. Kitschy, but in a fun way.
 

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