ThePhoenicians
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That fireworks fallout area (shaded in orange) can't be built on I assume? Any chance they move that to a new area to make way for expansion?
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News Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom
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TrainsOfDisney
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It could - but if fireworks continued as they are now the area would have to close for the fireworks.
etc98
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They could put indoor areas there I think, that could stay open. Just not any outdoor guest accessible areas?
TrainsOfDisney
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I’m not 100% sure on the buildings being occupied but the emergency exits could not open into the fallout zone so practically speaking not really.
Sneaky
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Fallout zone? Man the new Vegas land in magic kingdom gonna be HYPE.
WoundedDreamer
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Ah, but is that so? We got a version of Pirates of the Caribbean that was removed from its original context. But the Pirates of the Caribbean that Walt Disney oversaw right before his death was an explicitly moral tale.
Pirates of the Caribbean at Disneyland features a series of show scenes that demonstrate the effects of the pirate lifestyle. And the result… Isn’t pretty. Their gluttony, greed, and exploitation end in their deaths. Their treasures and lives lost to betrayal and violence. The clear message is that the wages of piracy are death and misery.
Even our Orlando version of the attraction has scenes at the beginning where the futility of the pirate lifestyle is demonstrated. Their remains strewn across the ground. Their pride and greatness dashed. The hat of one great pirate becomes the home of a seagull. The prideful and strong pirate humiliated in death.
The message is clear. Piracy might be exciting and romantic (why its memory persists in our culture’s imagination), but it’s no way to live life.
The Haunted Mansion has its own very cool story. New Orleans Square is one of my favorite lands! And the Magic Kingdom’s renditions of those attractions are some of the best in the park. Good stuff!
HMF
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It was that way until Depp showed up.
TheDisneyParksfanC8
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Could one of the rides in the Villains land be a dark ride that uses the Pan/Infinity Defense ride system?
UNCgolf
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I hope not. The Fantasy Springs Peter Pan ride looks awful to me; you're just watching a bunch of movies play on a screen.
TheDisneyParksfanC8
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They are some practical set pieces thrown in that could be scaled up for Villians. Someone over on the IU forums pitched this as an opportunity to bring the Shanghai Pirates ride system to WDW. That would make for a killer E ticket as well.
flyerjab
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I happened to catch some of Mongello’s interview with Josh. When the subject of Villian’s land came up, Josh sort of paused and said “wait until you see what the Imagineers are coming up with for Villain’s Land. It is going to be insane!” Really hoping they stick with the mood we got from the concept art.
Haymarket2008
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I think the Shanghai Pirates tech is the way to go for the major headliner E ticket, imho.
A coaster is fine, but I think that fits more with a secondary attraction.
A Villains E-Ticket needs dozens of phenomenal AA's that I want time to look at, not zoom by.
A coaster is fine, but I think that fits more with a secondary attraction.
A Villains E-Ticket needs dozens of phenomenal AA's that I want time to look at, not zoom by.
UNCgolf
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I'd be much more interested in the Shanghai Pirates system, although I think that ride is too heavy on watching movies as well (but a lot better than Peter Pan). I'd like to see them pull back on that some to use more AAs/physical set pieces if they ever design a new ride using it; I think they could do better.
MagicHappens1971
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I feel like they’re saving it for the eventual Moana addition to Adventureland. My personal theory is that Villains will have at least a coaster and some type of trackless ride.
Omg all I could think when they announced villains is that SWSA would be perfect for this
James Alucobond
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I personally think a modified version featuring Sleeping Beauty on the same track would help differentiate it. You can practically do a 1:1 scene swap with birthday prep in the cabin instead of the dwarves; the raven peering in the window while magic puffs from the chimney; Once Upon a Dream briefly in the woods; castle approach and passing into the fireplace instead of the mines and door; pricking finger instead of mirror transformation; Sword of Truth/Shield of Virtue fight against Maleficent instead of dwarves pushing the boulder; bedroom kiss scene instead of the glass coffin; and Philip and Aurora with color-shifting dress at the exit.
Of course, if Maleficent gets a coaster anyway, I suppose Sleeping Beauty will finally have some recognition in a ride without resorting to that.
Of course, if Maleficent gets a coaster anyway, I suppose Sleeping Beauty will finally have some recognition in a ride without resorting to that.
Bleed0range
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You know, I was thinking, it would be kind of cool to have a villains dark ride water ride utilizing the tech from the Shanghai pirates ride. They could have the villains teaming up with Captain Hook leading the way from Neverland, then recruiting Ursula under the sea. Etc.