VIDEO - Part two of Imagineering's tour through Enchanted Tales With Belle

jt04

Well-Known Member
I just think with the amount of details put into getting inside this meet and greet, something better could have been designed. It's a lot of build up for nothing. You get immersed into Belle's world, and then Voila! little kids holding card board cut outs! And in the video, it looks like there's maybe max 50 people there, most of them kids, so I just think the wait for this will be so slow moving. Meh, they could have done something better. I'm no imagineer, but I'm not impressed.

Everything is not about you. This is obviously designed for small children and their parents to enjoy together. Move along.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
This simply looks amazing. Wish we were getting all 3 Princess M&G's now! :(

Oh I think this attraction will force them to build the Cinderella and Aurora attractions sooner than they would have. I would not be suprised if they are already rethinking things. At least to the point that FH is truly temporary.

I was expecting a lot but the video shows how magical guests find the experience. We are at the start of a revolution in theme park design because this has so many ways it can diverge. And applications can be designed for all age groups. Experiences not unlike the Adventures Club in certain respects. Much more participatory and interactive.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
It's called life. Not every kid will get to participate depending on how many they pack into a room. If your child doesn't get to you can either get in line again or say something to a cast member to ensure your child does get to participate.

Anyways, why are AAs these days using projection technology? I guess because it's cheaper?
These days? Look at the singing busts in the HM. Even Madame Leota! And everyone thought they was amazing. Certain technology works best for certain effects.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
I do understand everything is not about me, but I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people that share my sentiments. As shown throughout the forum.

There are more than a few selfish people around here. Their favorite tune is me,me,me,me,me. Nobody of consequence takes such thinking seriously.
 

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
All of the complaints about Storytime with Belle can be boiled down to one thing... entitlement. A few around here feel slighted and jealous when an attraction is built and they do not fit the demographic. Period. They can make all the excuses in the world, but that's the basis. They're jealous the 5 year olds get something.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
I completely agree with @RandySavage. When I saw the actual rooms, they were entirely lacking. There is a similar problem with The Little Mermaid. It seems the hope is that one will be so so captivated by the animatronic, that the rest is sort of ignored. The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast were not cartoons. They were animated feature films acclaimed not because little girls like a pretty face in a dress, but because they are beautifully executed stories that show the power of the medium. The environments of the films are just as rich as the stories being told, but unfortunately that richness of place is not being brought to the interiors of the two most prominent areas of the Fantasyland expansion because the audience of the films is not being targeting in Fantasyland.

Being exclusively aimed at little children is another issue I have had with these interactive meet and greet experiences. This is the complete opposite of a ride with a height restriction that may limit some, but allows many. The appeal is near exclusive to a very small age set. Anybody older is offered only vicarious enjoyment, the very type of enjoyment Walt Disney explicitly and repeatedly stated that he was seeking to do away with at Disneyland. Those who are older but without children who may even just be curious will be left feeling uncomfortable attending such an experience.

The emphasis on exclusively appealing to young children is not just in direct opposition to the philosophy established by Walt Disney, but is also a poor long term business strategy that is starting to unravel (that Walt also rightly recognized). Appeasing and entertaining children is easy. For the most part they will not know or care if the Library is a place or wallpaper. But with the continuing increase in prices will only make justifying such purchases difficult for the broader demographics that do not include accompanying young children.

The problem with this experience is not that it is a meet and greet or that it appeals to young children. The problem is that it lacks aspiration or accessibility to those those outside this very narrow demographic. It is easy. Such interactive experiences can be done. Olivanders, while there is no photo op involved, does just this. There is no awkwardness in entering the shop without young children and it works just as well if the wand is choosing a young child or adult. It can be done, Disney has simply chosen otherwise.
 

KingdomofDreams

Well-Known Member
While I give the exterior finishes of the FLE 10/10 grades, there's something that's been bothering me about what we've seen thus far of the interiors of the Beauty & Beast half of FLE that this video reinforces.

Here are two takes by WDI on "Merlin's Workshop retail" that demonstrate the difference between "theme-ing" and "decorating".

Themed:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/theverynk/7604911380/sizes/c/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/theverynk/7604906304/sizes/c/in/photostream/

Decorated:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterpanfan1953/6081182669/sizes/l/in/photostream/

A well-themed interior completely sells the intended environment (e.g. down to period door hinges), while a a decorated one adds props and other elements to what is essentially modern room to get an idea across.

Looking at these vids, the B&B areas, unfortunately, look like the latter. In this video in particular, the rooms look like a dressed-up WDW convention center room with thin, Ikea-like bookshelving, modern doors (hinges, push locks), new carpeting, bright recessed lighting, zero aging - basically the opposite of a centuries-old castle interior. I understand certain concessions need to be made in a theme park environment (exit signs), but I had hoped for a rigorously-themed interior rather than a light dressing to a modern room style one.

I hesitate to criticize what isn't open or I haven't seen in person, but I hope that these B&B interior areas look much better by opening day or in person than these vids are showing.



Agree.
 

Ignohippo

Well-Known Member
I do understand everything is not about me, but I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people that share my sentiments. As shown throughout the forum.

I still say no one would have a problem with "Storytime" if the rest of the FLE had more real attractions. Storytime should simply be just a minor part of the FLE (no matter how lavish it is). As it has always been, Stoytime is a glorified meat & greet. I think the negativity comes from the disappointment of there not being a true "attraction" in the BatB area.
 

Clamman73

Well-Known Member
Any word on number of people per run through and how many enchanted tales they can do per day?

I just wonder how much they put into this and what they're getting out of this attraction for the space, effort and money.
 

prfctlyximprct

Well-Known Member
You're right. You are entitled to an opinion. However, the sense of entitlement is annoying.

Sorry that this forum must be always praise for Disney. God forbid someone does not like one thing they do. I think a lot of things that do not "fit my demographic" are great, and I love watching the little kids' faces light up when they see the characters. However, I think that the attraction with Belle could be better. You don't have to agree
 

J03Y

Well-Known Member
wow, this is just spectacular and i'm actually crying. Lumiere and the Wardrobe just look so real! their motions are exactly like the cartoons. it's so beautiful how it's all coming together
 

HouCuseChickie

Well-Known Member
Personally, I love it. Yes, I have 2 little girls and they adore BatB- so that helps, but I would have been wow'd by it regardless. I know there is no guarantee they'll be selected to be part of the show, but considering that they've been perfectly fine sitting with the adults for Crush and DD6 is a bit shy...I think they'd enjoy the show even if they're just part of the audience.

I know some people are bothered with the attraction, but I always thought it was some form of M&G...so the end product certainly exceeded expectations. And let's be honest...there will always be attractions that some people love, while others hate. Example, I rode ToT once and really don't care for it. It's got wonderful attention to detail, but I detest free-fall style rides. Roller coaster- great...free fall- yuck, but I had to ride it once just to at least see it. I know a number of people who avoid ToT, yet do all of the other thrill rides at WDW for this same reason. Do I cry sour grapes b/c Disney put in a ride- a major attraction- that people like me hate...no. It appeals to a lot of people, just like this new Bell M&G will appeal to a lot of people...not the same people in all regards, but enough to justify having them.
 

threeyoda

Active Member
While I give the exterior finishes of the FLE 10/10 grades, there's something that's been bothering me about what we've seen thus far of the interiors of the Beauty & Beast half of FLE that this video reinforces.

Here are two takes by WDI on "Merlin's Workshop retail" that demonstrate the difference between "theme-ing" and "decorating".

Themed:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/theverynk/7604911380/sizes/c/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/theverynk/7604906304/sizes/c/in/photostream/

Decorated:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterpanfan1953/6081182669/sizes/l/in/photostream/

A well-themed interior completely sells the intended environment (e.g. down to period door hinges), while a a decorated one adds props and other elements to what is essentially modern room to get an idea across.

Looking at these vids, the B&B areas, unfortunately, look like the latter. In this video in particular, the rooms look like a dressed-up WDW convention center room with thin, Ikea-like bookshelving, modern doors (hinges, push locks), new carpeting, bright recessed lighting, zero aging - basically the opposite of a centuries-old castle interior. I understand certain concessions need to be made in a theme park environment (exit signs), but I had hoped for a rigorously-themed interior rather than a light dressing to a modern room style one.

I hesitate to criticize what isn't open or I haven't seen in person, but I hope that these B&B interior areas look much better by opening day or in person than these vids are showing.

Do you remember the movie? The castle library was in perfect condition in the movie:

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Now, if they had made it look aged and made the bookshelves overly fancy, some people on here would be complaining that it doesn't look like the movie. I could see some complaining that they didn't make the library 7 or 8 stories tall like in the movie. Not saying you are one of those people, but from what I've seen on here, I wouldn't be surprised if people did start saying things like that.

It seems people are losing sight that this attraction, and this expansion, and this theme park are all aimed towards families with young children. Could you imagine what a kid will feel like when he's chosen to play the beast or when Belle is talking to him/her? I would have been ecstatic! So, instead of being angry that you can't participate, or that it's only built for kids, remember that you used to be a kid, and kids today will love this attraction, especially the interactivity it offers.
 

doctornick

Well-Known Member
I still say no one would have a problem with "Storytime" if the rest of the FLE had more real attractions. Storytime should simply be just a minor part of the FLE (no matter how lavish it is). As it has always been, Stoytime is a glorified meat & greet. I think the negativity comes from the disappointment of there not being a true "attraction" in the BatB area.

I think this is a fair criticism and I tend to agree with it. My beef comes with people who are slamming Storytime with Belle as though it is a disappointment or a waste. It's a fantastic addition that looks like it will be impressive and a crowd pleaser. One can praise that in one breath while still being disappointed in the paucity of rides in the FLE.
 

Horizons1

Well-Known Member
I don't think it matters how cheap the props are. They will never be going away, it will be the only way that Belle will be able to address the children as she won't know their names (hey, you with the green shirt, you're the tea cup, and you oh I forgot who you were, what are you supposed to be)...not going anywhere, they will have to be replaced!

...Unless...with next gen...Belle has an ear piece and someone tells her the name of each child using their RFID wrist band.
;)
 

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