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VIDEO - Part two of Imagineering's tour through Enchanted Tales With Belle
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alissafalco
Well-Known Member
Let's see, no more printed napkins, no more printed cups, I'm sure cheap printed props will be next.
Crush Dude!
Back from WDW!Counting down to DLP in November!
The cups are temporary and no i do not class these props with them!
Just enjoy the attraction for what it is, a wonderful immersive experience
CaptainWinter
Active Member
That looks great. Any idea what the hourly capacity on this is? Are there duplicate show rooms? Looks like it could generate some huge waits.
threeyoda
Active Member
And how do all of you know that they are cheap paper cutouts and not more durable material? The only thing that's been released is a video! Who knows what they're made of. They could be wood, plastic, etc. Wait till it opens to find out what they are made of.
Crush Dude!
Back from WDW!Counting down to DLP in November!
Thank you, never in the past were they paper cut outs, they were wooden
Crush Dude!
Back from WDW!Counting down to DLP in November!
Just a guess here of course. But I'm assuming they would have a limit for each rotation of "X" amount of kids. That way they would still use each of the props, without the chance of tears ruining the carpet
Not if its like before, usually only 5 to 8 props although om guessing they will invite sll kids to participate to some extent
startraveler
Active Member
Will have to wait until 2014 to see this, but sure looks good now! It will be hard knowing that it is pretty much operational when I leave at the end of Oct 2012. Missed it by that much...
PurpleRose
Active Member
I think that this looks amazing. I hope I get time to poke arond in the cottage. The animatronics look terrific.
RandySavage
Well-Known Member
While I give the exterior finishes of the FLE 10/10 grades, there's something that's been bothering me about what we've seen thus far of the interiors of the Beauty & Beast half of FLE that this video reinforces.
Here are two takes by WDI on "Merlin's Workshop retail" that demonstrate the difference between "theme-ing" and "decorating".
Themed:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/theverynk/7604911380/sizes/c/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/theverynk/7604906304/sizes/c/in/photostream/
Decorated:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterpanfan1953/6081182669/sizes/l/in/photostream/
A well-themed interior completely sells the intended environment (e.g. down to period door hinges), while a a decorated one adds props and other elements to what is essentially modern room to get an idea across.
Looking at these vids, the B&B areas, unfortunately, look like the latter. In this video in particular, the rooms look like a dressed-up WDW convention center room with thin, Ikea-like bookshelving, modern doors (hinges, push locks), new carpeting, bright recessed lighting, zero aging - basically the opposite of a centuries-old castle interior. I understand certain concessions need to be made in a theme park environment (exit signs), but I had hoped for a rigorously-themed interior rather than a light dressing to a modern room style one.
I hesitate to criticize what isn't open or I haven't seen in person, but I hope that these B&B interior areas look much better by opening day or in person than these vids are showing.
Here are two takes by WDI on "Merlin's Workshop retail" that demonstrate the difference between "theme-ing" and "decorating".
Themed:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/theverynk/7604911380/sizes/c/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/theverynk/7604906304/sizes/c/in/photostream/
Decorated:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterpanfan1953/6081182669/sizes/l/in/photostream/
A well-themed interior completely sells the intended environment (e.g. down to period door hinges), while a a decorated one adds props and other elements to what is essentially modern room to get an idea across.
Looking at these vids, the B&B areas, unfortunately, look like the latter. In this video in particular, the rooms look like a dressed-up WDW convention center room with thin, Ikea-like bookshelving, modern doors (hinges, push locks), new carpeting, bright recessed lighting, zero aging - basically the opposite of a centuries-old castle interior. I understand certain concessions need to be made in a theme park environment (exit signs), but I had hoped for a rigorously-themed interior rather than a light dressing to a modern room style one.
I hesitate to criticize what isn't open or I haven't seen in person, but I hope that these B&B interior areas look much better by opening day or in person than these vids are showing.
EXACTLY. +1000
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
1) This looks amazing. I truly got a little misty eyed thinking of my kids faces when we walk into this in December.
2) For all attractions that involve some audience participation, there are only a small number of parts, and parents have to take the time to explain to their children if they are not chosen. Always has been the case, always will be.
3) From the looks of that demo, even the children not chosen to play a role will be able to take a part in some respects, it looks like all children were involved in the marching around the room.
4) Good to those pointing out that props have been used in the past, and didn't cause the attraction to die when it was in the garden.
5) Without props, I'd imagine Bell / cast members would spend half their time reminding the children which part they were supposed to be playing. "Footstool, oh footstool, that's you, right here, kid in the red shirt, remember??". These kids will be in awe of what they see when they walk in. The prop is probably just as much a reminder to them that they have a role to play, and which role that is.
6) The projected effect looks great in the video, I have no issues here at all. I love the ability they gave to animate Wardrobe's eye movements which would have been harder to pull off mechanically.
7) Once again, just wow. Wow wow wow. Props to Disney.
Just my initial opinions.
2) For all attractions that involve some audience participation, there are only a small number of parts, and parents have to take the time to explain to their children if they are not chosen. Always has been the case, always will be.
3) From the looks of that demo, even the children not chosen to play a role will be able to take a part in some respects, it looks like all children were involved in the marching around the room.
4) Good to those pointing out that props have been used in the past, and didn't cause the attraction to die when it was in the garden.
5) Without props, I'd imagine Bell / cast members would spend half their time reminding the children which part they were supposed to be playing. "Footstool, oh footstool, that's you, right here, kid in the red shirt, remember??". These kids will be in awe of what they see when they walk in. The prop is probably just as much a reminder to them that they have a role to play, and which role that is.
6) The projected effect looks great in the video, I have no issues here at all. I love the ability they gave to animate Wardrobe's eye movements which would have been harder to pull off mechanically.
7) Once again, just wow. Wow wow wow. Props to Disney.
Just my initial opinions.
Mawg
Well-Known Member
I don't care if they are made of Paper, Cardboard, Wood or Plastic. Kids love to feel like they have a role and the props to that and help give the feeling of immersion. The only thing that's important with the props is that they continue to replace them when they look tattered. If they are made of cardboard they will have to replace them more frequently but at a cheaper cost, if made of wood or plastic, they will have to replace them less frequently but at a higher cost, I'm sure they have worked out what the most cost effective route is.
