Updated TSMM On the Way?

IWant2GoNow

Well-Known Member
Yeah, but look, I understand why some people wish that WDW could get the Haunted Mansion overlay for Christmas. That turns the Disneyland version into a very different ride, with different characters, different settings, and so on. But it hardly seems worth it to make a new version of a TSM game such that I'm throwing bean bags at ghosts or something like that for Halloween. I mean, if you're already tired of pulling that string and knocking junk down -- and as you may have guessed, I was, even after the first ride -- differently themed versions of the same thing aren't going to make a difference.

It would basically just be in place to make the ride blend in with the holidays. Better theming to go with the rest of the park during those decorated days. Like I said, is the ride going to be a completely new experience? No, it's going to be the same dart-throwing, ball-tossing, ring-flinging 3D ride it's always been. I don't see why adding newer holiday overlays would be a bad thing. :shrug: If you don't enjoy the ride because of what it is I guess this wouldn't be a big deal at all, but if they can add to this, obviously, popular ride and do it fairly cheap and easily... why not? It'd be like saying you weren't excited for the possibility of different Star Tours scenes every time you ride and that one beginning, middle, and end is enough. Maybe that's stretching it but I think more experiences are good no matter what they are... as long as we don't end up with Stitch's Great Escape: Under New Management I think we'll be okay. :p
 

_Scar

Active Member
I was just on that ride for the first time about a week ago. AMAZINGG. :D
What is difference between Toy Story 3 and the other movies?


There are quite a few more new characters to add to the characters we already know and love.

Like- Lotso, Peas in a Pod, Stretchy the Octopus, Ken, etc

On Pixar's Facebook page theyre revealing new characters every week or so.
 

Slowjack

Well-Known Member
[...] Like I said, is the ride going to be a completely new experience? No, it's going to be the same dart-throwing, ball-tossing, ring-flinging 3D ride it's always been. I don't see why adding newer holiday overlays would be a bad thing. :shrug: [...]It'd be like saying you weren't excited for the possibility of different Star Tours scenes every time you ride and that one beginning, middle, and end is enough.
I don't think it would be a bad thing, I'm just not sure it's an efficient use of resources. Honestly, when all is said and done, an overlay wouldn't be that cheap. I think there are lots of other ways to use the money that would be more bang for the buck.

I feel the same way about Star Tours, if all we were talking about was the film. What I hear is they we're getting not just new film, but 3-D, the top opening up and something happening above us, in-car effects, and so on. Plus each of the various films in the new Star Tours presumably will have a different ride and feel to it. But it's no surprise that they never simply changed out the film for another one, as they originally promised, because that would be similar to what I'm talking about with Toy Story Mania: reasonably costly, and wouldn't enhance the ride very much. "Original" Star Tours, and a "new film but otherwise exactly the same" Star Tours would be less distinguished than Star Tours and Body Wars were. So I'm glad that they never changed the film out and waited until they were ready to completely redesign the ride -- assuming they actually do it, I'm always wary until it actually happens...
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
This was one of the selling points of "screen technology" as WDI has stated. I'm looking forward to their proposed Holiday overlays that should eventually become annual traditions.
 

PhantomX

New Member
That's what I've heard from two 'semi' reliable sources. And since another online site has mentioned it in passing as well, I'll toss it out too.

The story says TSMM will be 'updated and changed' to reflect the opening of Toy Story 3.

It's certainly possible. And Christmas and Halloween versions have been in the pipeline.

The only caveat here is Disney often touts technology that can easily be changed (see Star Tours). And it never is.

Thanks for the info. Sounds interesting.

Concerning the bolded, I would argue that that was the 80s this is the 10s and its alot easier to switch out video now that everything is digital. I believe both Lasseter and Fitzgerald had promised there would be updates and changes to the attractions frequently.

As for Toy Story 3 stuff in Midway Mania...I hope they add a Totoro cameo ;)
 

techiegsy

Member
I wonder if they could head towards a "Random" game experience, where you have several games for each character (or even different characters) that are randomly chosen for your ride. I think with the technology it would seem entirely possible, and could be an easy change with no real prep work...

Or they could leave it as it is:lookaroun
 

UnrealFire

New Member
I wonder if they could head towards a "Random" game experience, where you have several games for each character (or even different characters) that are randomly chosen for your ride. I think with the technology it would seem entirely possible, and could be an easy change with no real prep work...

Or they could leave it as it is:lookaroun

If it's random, you can't compete against other people except for the person next to you! It's more fun to see to the monthly high score so you can beat it.
 

toolsnspools

Well-Known Member
The ride is basically a set of different games already. Adding to the number of possible games for each stop would be a relatively easy. This could be combined with the rumored RFID technology too so if your not a fan of Halloween, you don't get the overlay. They could also track witch versions you've played and make sure you get a new line-up the next time you ride.
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
This isn't really an expensive/time consuming change.

It's very easy. I thought they'd go the holiday route first (ruining all those dream once in a lifetime vacations) ... but with TS3 coming out, I can see where a swap makes sense.

Working on getting a confirm.
 

nemofinder22

Well-Known Member
Good to see this rumor getting some steam.

And since there copies of each other heres the DLR thread:)
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=535310

Also DisneyLD from MiceChat mentioned this. Same poster also broke the news on Ghost Galaxy.:)
http://micechat.com/forums/disneyla...-project-tracker-viii-126.html#post1055668892

DisneyLD- It is rumored that the Bo Peeps Balloon Pop game is being replaced by a game promoting Toy Story 3.
That's all I can say, feel free to speculate the rest.
Again, this is info passed onto me from a reliable source, and this is always subject to change. The way Disney has been promoting its upcoming movies in the parks (Princess and the Frog anyone?) I'm sure this will happen.
 

champdisney

Well-Known Member
Cool stuff, hope it does get them.


And Servo- if it's just for a few days, I hope they clean up the queue a little bit...It was a tad battered. :(

Agreed, the actual queue needs tons of cleaning but beyond that I enjoy TSMM.

I do remember when TSMM was under development, Imagineers did say that Holiday overlays would certainly be a possibility for the attraction to enhance the Disney experience for guests who revisit the attraction. So I'm all for the Holiday overlays and the additions of several new characters from TS3. Lotso definitely looks promising as they are hyping the character quite well for the new film, not to mention he will soon be appearing for Meet n' Greets at the Animation Building.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
Would it be unreasonable to retrofit the in car monitors to be touch screens? This could allow you to choose which games you want to play.
 

pixiedust629

New Member
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's a planned rehab/cleaning/freshen-up time period coming up. And I've heard the rumors about TS3 being incorporated.

But my biggest question is, well... is there really time to get that much information while you are in the ride? I mean, things like "understanding their personality" aren't really possible when all they are doing is introducing a game, right? They're on screen for like... 2.4 seconds. Then you play. Then they swing you around to something else. The queue would be a better opportunity to "know" any characters. Mr. Potato Head is the one you really "meet."

I just don't think the ride time allows you enough opportunity to make a difference to which character is hosting what game. It would be an appearance, and whoop-de-doo... but who cares?
 

Figment1986

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's a planned rehab/cleaning/freshen-up time period coming up. And I've heard the rumors about TS3 being incorporated.

But my biggest question is, well... is there really time to get that much information while you are in the ride? I mean, things like "understanding their personality" aren't really possible when all they are doing is introducing a game, right? They're on screen for like... 2.4 seconds. Then you play. Then they swing you around to something else. The queue would be a better opportunity to "know" any characters. Mr. Potato Head is the one you really "meet."

I just don't think the ride time allows you enough opportunity to make a difference to which character is hosting what game. It would be an appearance, and whoop-de-doo... but who cares?

Think of it this way, the characters introduce games that fit their personalities, and some star in the games as well... like green army men with their game, or Buzz's ring toss game with the LGMs...

It's not like Buzz introduces a western game and woody introduces the ring toss... while we wont know the character, we will have a slight idea about them through the game we just played.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
Would it be unreasonable to retrofit the in car monitors to be touch screens? This could allow you to choose which games you want to play.

I am kind of surprised that they didn't do that from the offset, seeing they were installing Touch Screens on SSE just a month later. :lol:
 

IWant2GoNow

Well-Known Member
I don't think it would be a bad thing, I'm just not sure it's an efficient use of resources. Honestly, when all is said and done, an overlay wouldn't be that cheap. I think there are lots of other ways to use the money that would be more bang for the buck.

I feel the same way about Star Tours, if all we were talking about was the film. What I hear is they we're getting not just new film, but 3-D, the top opening up and something happening above us, in-car effects, and so on. Plus each of the various films in the new Star Tours presumably will have a different ride and feel to it. But it's no surprise that they never simply changed out the film for another one, as they originally promised, because that would be similar to what I'm talking about with Toy Story Mania: reasonably costly, and wouldn't enhance the ride very much. "Original" Star Tours, and a "new film but otherwise exactly the same" Star Tours would be less distinguished than Star Tours and Body Wars were. So I'm glad that they never changed the film out and waited until they were ready to completely redesign the ride -- assuming they actually do it, I'm always wary until it actually happens...

I really thinking it would be leaps and bounds cheaper to add different games to TSMM than it would have to replace the old Star Tours film. Essentially in TSMM all you're replacing is the on screen program the ride stays the same timing and all. With Star Tours you would have had to reprogram the whole ride to correlate with the timing of events in the new film. I am actually really glad they didn't do that and are now revamping the entire experience. As a HUGE Star Wars fan I can NOT wait to see what they have up their sleeves for this one. Maybe I'll just ride Star Tours 2.0 all day sometime just to get a bunch of the scenes. :lol:

And if '74 is correct then this can be done quickly and inexpensively. I'm just excited that they are considering adding new features to this ride already. Normally TDO would see this ride how it is and say "well the lines aren't slowing down so no need to add anything". Now, they need to focus on bigger things like oh... Yeti, JII, whatever new BK or MI idea they have for DAK. :lol:
 

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