Update: Escape From Tomorrow

Jimmy Thick

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Sadly, this movie is getting more life on this forum than at the theatres or VOD, as it is know where to be seen in my neck of the woods anymore.

Its on Amazon though, but that's really not saying much.


Jimmy Thick- Perhaps is the filmmaker got tips from Uwe Boll?
 

Tonka's Skipper

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Sadly, this movie is getting more life on this forum than at the theatres or VOD, as it is know where to be seen in my neck of the woods anymore.

Its on Amazon though, but that's really not saying much.


Jimmy Thick- Perhaps is the filmmaker got tips from Uwe Boll?


I believe that is why Disney never made a legal issue over it. Basically letting it die quietly.

AKK
 

Cesar R M

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Sadly, this movie is getting more life on this forum than at the theatres or VOD, as it is know where to be seen in my neck of the woods anymore.

Its on Amazon though, but that's really not saying much.


Jimmy Thick- Perhaps is the filmmaker got tips from Uwe Boll?


I believe that is why Disney never made a legal issue over it. Basically letting it die quietly.

AKK

fighting it could cause a huge STREISAND EFFECT. (for those who dont know the therm... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect )
 

Skip

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Yes it is getting attention because they did it at Disney. When you think about it the only reason it has gotten attention is because of the Disney name. Outside of the *artsy world* it fell right off the charts in less then 2 weeks, in fact it never made it to any real theater except the artsy ones!

That's as it was reported in the box office sites, CNN and other media!

AKK

...explain to me again how it "fell right off the charts" when we're still here talking about it, and it just popped up on CNN. The screenings I just described occurred a week ago. There are additional screenings occurring in local art theaters in my area - there's definitely palpable interest in the film, and rightly so. It's a unique, interesting premise.

...Define "real" theater, because you're showing your ignorance. As a filmmaker, I would know better than you that a film's success is no longer determined by its presence in multiplexes - much of the money now comes from VOD, festival circuits, and home video sales. Escape from Tomorrow's succeeding in several of those, and that speaks nothing of its merit as a work of art (which it undoubtedly is, even if some of you scream that it isn't.)

Do yourself a favor - worry about your own problems, and let Disney worry about theirs. I agree it's quite the embarrassment to their security team that they let this happen, but it certainly seems like the EFT team did their homework and are in fairly stable legal safe zones. Needlessly hating this film because they're "criminals" (which, by the way, until any court of law says they are, they are not) is a waste of energy. At least these guys did something productive and different with "Disney."
 

HDS

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. You time is better watching Ishtar. I'm sure if he had it his way, he would force everyone to watch it ala Clockwork Orange, With your eyes taped open strapped to a chair.
 
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Tonka's Skipper

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Hello Skip

..explain to me again how it "fell right off the charts" when we're still here talking about it, and it just popped up on CNN. The screenings I just described occurred a week ago. There are additional screenings occurring in local art theaters in my area - there's definitely palpable interest in the film, and rightly so. It's a unique, interesting premise.


OK.....it started with 30 artsy theaters week 1, 11 the 2nd. none now. CNN, a the art film item.....wooppie!..............there maybe a few additional artsy theaters showing it to a very limited group, film people etc.

Just because there is a few forum discussion threads doesn't mean it did not fall off the charts, Thinking about it, it would have had to make some level of interest to even make the charts, which by any standard(see above) it did not.


...Define "real" theater, because you're showing your ignorance. As a filmmaker, I would know better than you that a film's success is no longer determined by its presence in multiplexes - much of the money now comes from VOD, festival circuits, and home video sales. Escape from Tomorrow's succeeding in several of those, and that speaks nothing of its merit as a work of art (which it undoubtedly is, even if some of you scream that it isn't.)


Please provide some figures on these great sales volumes your talking of?. the sites? I cant find an great sale figure.

A real theater is a commercial theater, not a small artsy showroom. I have been to some over the years and they are usually a makeshift operation directed to film folks, of little interest in the general public.
Do yourself a favor - worry about your own problems, and let Disney worry about theirs.

Please don't tell me or anyone what we are allowed to discuss. That is what a forum is about, polite discussion of opinion. I never told you not to say your piece even if I disagree.

I agree it's quite the embarrassment to their security team that they let this happen, but it certainly seems like the EFT team did their homework and are in fairly stable legal safe zones. Needlessly hating this film because they're "criminals" (which, by the way, until any court of law says they are, they are not) is a waste of energy. At least these guys did something productive and different with "Disney."

Yes it is a shame that the maker of this film , using their little trick to film it, likely caused some people thier jobs.

As pointed out in the media and even CNN, there is opinion on both sides regarding the legal issues. I consider it to be theft of property , intellectual as well as stealing and that's criminal. I never used the word criminal, you did and you are right unless a court says so they are not criminals until proven guilty, the reason I did not use that word.

PS who ever said I hate the film, what I have seen of it I don't find interesting.

Lastly, lets face it they used *Disney * and the *Disney name* to get interest....if they had not this film would only have been seen by a even smaller group of the artsy world.

AKK
 
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Bairstow

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Finally saw it, and I have to admit that it's a complete disappointment. The biggest problem with this film is that it never seems to understand what it wants to do. I had expected, at the very least, some kind of commentary on what theme parks like Disney World tend to do to people psychologically, a bit like the halfway-successful Our Kingdom of Dust. Escape From Tomorrow fails even to do that, and other than wanting to juxtapose sex and and scary CGI faces with Disney World I can't figure out what exactly the writer/director was even going for here. Without making a clear delineation between what's in the main character's head and what are a product of his hallucinations, it's never clear whether the juxtaposition is supposed to be commentary on anything at all other than the apparent availability of cheap South Korean computer graphics.

I didn't think it would be, but as someone with some knowledge of the parks the cutting back and forth between scenes filmed at the Magic Kingdom and Disneyland was very distracting, as were the situations where they couldn't use actual Disney music due to copyright issues. In most situations they did an admirable job of finding surrogate music (Year of Jubilo at Tomorrowland?) but if you can't use the actual "It's a Small World After All" in Small World, why bother? When the scene is so obviously compromised for legal reasons it really dulls the sting of the transgressive satirical bent the film was going for. A similar scene at Gran Fiesta Tour is much for successful for this reason.

Oh, and if they wanted to put "real" sounding Disney music around the castle, why not just use something that's public domain anyway?

So yeah. All in it's a confused, mess of a film that's unpleasant to watch and probably has nothing to say.
...which is a real shame because I loved the idea of this film being made.
Just not the film itself.
 

SteveAZee

Premium Member
I just saw it as well. As someone in another thread suggested... meh. It COULD have been an interesting film, at some level, and there were some scenes/elements that seemed like David Lynch here, Hitchcock there... but then student film in many places. I also found it jarring that little bits of it were filmed at Disneyland... yes, very jarring... and a few others filmed with green screen. I sort of think I maybe know what they were trying to get to, story-wise, but it's muddled... and creepy.. and not in a good way.
 

rodserling27

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I am sorry to bump an old thread, but I just got around to watching this last night.

I have to say that the best part of the film is just seeing WDW (especially SWSA!!) and it looks particularly cool in monochrome.

That having been said, I urge everyone to not waste their time watching this. I kept waiting for the answers to come, or perhaps for things to start clicking into place (Like in "2001: A Space Odyssey" or even "Donnie Darko"), but alas, it just kept going and going. It was like a draft of a Twilight Zone episode that never made it to the air. The director never fully delivers on any of his ideas that are developed in the film. There some cool parts, and I liked the "climax" where he is taken underground SSE, but nothing was fully developed, we are just kind of left on a limb. It wasn't nearly as trippy or insane as I thought it would be. Most of it is just following the lead character, Jim, around WDW/DL!

I didn't think it would be, but as someone with some knowledge of the parks the cutting back and forth between scenes filmed at the Magic Kingdom and Disneyland was very distracting, as were the situations where they couldn't use actual Disney music due to copyright issues.

Agreed 100%. Nothing was worse than seeing them cut back and forth between his wife and daughter in front of Cinderella Castle while he and his son are in DL's tomorrowland. And then DL's small world - jarring differences to the hardcore fans like us!
 

slappy magoo

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For anyone interested, Netflix now has it (starting tomorrow) - http://dvd.netflix.com/Movie/Escape_from_Tomorrow/70268897
Even though they're just renting the DVD (as opposed to streaming) I'm kind of surprised Netflix would choose to carry this title. They've done so much to cultivate a relationship with Disney to the point that, within a year or so when their current contract expires, instead of Disney's recent theatrical titles going to Starz and Encore, they will go direct to Netflix for a few years. They've also been getting lots of older catalog titles and Disney Channel programs. Netflix essentially cut loose an arrangement with Viacom for THEIR kids' projects from Nick & Nick Jr in order to be THE place for Disney content. While it wouldn't be cool for Disney to try to prohibit Netflix from offering this movie after not making a stink during its brief theatrical run, I'm still kind of surprised Netfliz would opt to carry it. It's a little like being a divorced dad going to his kid's birthday party in the house of his ex and her new husband, and because divorced dad doesn't have a significant other to bring to the shindig so he doesn't look lonely, he hires a hooker. Sure, you CAN do that, but SHOULD you?
 

Bairstow

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Even though they're just renting the DVD (as opposed to streaming) I'm kind of surprised Netflix would choose to carry this title. They've done so much to cultivate a relationship with Disney to the point that, within a year or so when their current contract expires, instead of Disney's recent theatrical titles going to Starz and Encore, they will go direct to Netflix for a few years. They've also been getting lots of older catalog titles and Disney Channel programs. Netflix essentially cut loose an arrangement with Viacom for THEIR kids' projects from Nick & Nick Jr in order to be THE place for Disney content. While it wouldn't be cool for Disney to try to prohibit Netflix from offering this movie after not making a stink during its brief theatrical run, I'm still kind of surprised Netfliz would opt to carry it. It's a little like being a divorced dad going to his kid's birthday party in the house of his ex and her new husband, and because divorced dad doesn't have a significant other to bring to the shindig so he doesn't look lonely, he hires a hooker. Sure, you CAN do that, but SHOULD you?

Pretty sure this thing dropped off of Disney's radar as soon as the initial buzz faded.
 

slappy magoo

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Pretty sure this thing dropped off of Disney's radar as soon as the initial buzz faded.
Oh, I don't think it'll ever be off their radar. They'll choose to ignore it, and I think that makes the most sense so as to not afford it more publicity. But that's tantamount to "forgive, but never forget."
 

FigmentJedi

Well-Known Member
Even though they're just renting the DVD (as opposed to streaming) I'm kind of surprised Netflix would choose to carry this title. They've done so much to cultivate a relationship with Disney to the point that, within a year or so when their current contract expires, instead of Disney's recent theatrical titles going to Starz and Encore, they will go direct to Netflix for a few years. They've also been getting lots of older catalog titles and Disney Channel programs. Netflix essentially cut loose an arrangement with Viacom for THEIR kids' projects from Nick & Nick Jr in order to be THE place for Disney content.
I thought it was Viacom that cancelled the deal with Netflix, not the other way around.
 

Bairstow

Well-Known Member
its a subversive, guerilla style film that the director was just wanting to get made, critical response wasnt too much of a concern when he made it
mission accomplished

The fact that he was able to film a movie at Disney parks, guerilla-style, is neat.
If he had managed to make a good or at least interesting movie at Disney parks, people might enjoy actually viewing it.
Such as it is, though...
 

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