Unpopular WDW Opinions

BonnieAppetite

New Member
There are very very few items I crave out of the blue from WDW as far as food goes. There are some, don't get me wrong, but in general, its pretty plain.

I think the food quality began to decrease with the introduction of the dining plans. I don't know why that would be, but I remember the food as being better before. I think the plans started sometime in the early or mid 2000's?
 

dieboy

Active Member
I think the food quality began to decrease with the introduction of the dining plans. I don't know why that would be, but I remember the food as being better before. I think the plans started sometime in the early or mid 2000's?

Yes, i'm over it and don't really gripe about it any more, but that used to be part of the fun, getting spectacular food while on vacation. Now its simply sustenance so guests don't fall over in the parks.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
Yes, i'm over it and don't really gripe about it any more, but that used to be part of the fun, getting spectacular food while on vacation. Now its simply sustenance so guests don't fall over in the parks.
Where are people finding this trash WDW food? I have an eight night trip coming up and my meals are tentatively planned to include:

Pork shoulder with smoked chicken, brisket, and jalepeno cornbread, tacos de barbacoa, Szechuan steak with honey coriander chicken wings and peel-and-eat shrimp, chicken and ribs with barbecue baked beans, Cuban hot dog with mojo pork, 7-layer rice bowl with grilled chicken, spicy grilled fish tacos with quinoa, African-Indian fusion buffet, beef and lamb gyro, rotisserie chicken with mashed potatoes and green beans, chicken and waffles, lobster roll, beef and chicken noodle bowl, fish and chips, and shawarma platter.

Eight days and nights in a theme park. Zero burgers, one hot dog, two orders of French fries, zero repeat items. And all but two of those meals are counter service.
 
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dieboy

Active Member
Where are people finding this trash WDW food? I have an eight night trip coming up and my meals are tentatively planned to include:

Pork shoulder with smoked chicken, brisket, and jalepeno cornbread, tacos de barbacoa, Szechuan steak with honey coriander chicken wings and peel-and-eat shrimp, chicken and ribs with barbecue baked beans, Cuban hot dog with mojo pork, 7-layer rice bowl with grilled chicken, spicy grilled fish tacos with quinoa, African-Indian fusion buffet, beef and lamb gyro, rotisserie chicken with mashed potatoes and green beans, chicken and waffles, lobster roll, beef and chicken noodle bowl, fish and chips, and shawarma platter.

Eight days and nights in a theme park. Zero burgers, one hot dog, two orders of French fries, zero repeat items.


Let me know how those are (in all honesty and curiosity). I've come across *allot* of 'great named' foods that were very poorly executed (cough Nine Dragons), and would rather have had a hot dog at that point. Technically two orders of french fries is a repeat ;P
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
Let me know how those are (in all honesty and curiosity). I've come across *allot* of 'great named' foods that were very poorly executed (cough Nine Dragons), and would rather have had a hot dog at that point. Technically two orders of french fries is a repeat ;P
I've had everything I'm planning on before and it all ranges from "quite good" to "excellent." Every once in a while a meal will be a dud and my fish taco from Sunshine Seasons won't be super hot (for example), but I'm very happy with all of those locations. There are certainly crap meals to be had at WDW, but there's also quality and variety to be found at even the quick service locations. People who eat at the Electric Umbrella or the ABC Commissary do so at their own peril.

If anyone's curious, the restaurants I referenced above are: The Polite Pig, La Cantina de San Angel, Ohana, Flame Tree BBQ, Casey's Corner, Fairfax Fare, Sunshine Seasons, Boma, Harambe Market, Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe, Backlot Express, Columbia Harbor House, Satuli Canteen, Rose & Crown, and Tangerine Cafe.
 

Fable McCloud

Well-Known Member
We're all bound to have some unpopular opinions regarding the Walt Disney World Resort.

To start, here's a few of mine...
  • there's too much Star Wars at Hollywood Studios
  • Disney should have built all-encompassing Pixar Land and Lucasfilm Land instead of Toy Story Land and Galaxy's Edge, respectively
  • Downtown Disney is a more exciting name than Disney Springs
  • Pop Century Legendary Years would've been better than Art of Animation
  • paper FPs were a better system than FP+
  • Hollywood Studios should've stayed a working film studio
  • Disney should have built Beastly Kingdom instead of Pandora
  • putting Frozen and Guardians of the Galaxy in Epcot are terrible ideas
  • I liked the Millionaire show at Hollywood Studios
  • the Pixar Short Film Festival is a lame excuse for a Captain EO replacement. Disney should've just brought back HISTA instead.
I agree with most of these opinions. Especially Beastly Kingdom and keeping Hollywood an actual Studio. I really do love (and still call it) Downtown Disney.
 

jloucks

Well-Known Member
Ok, by that rule, I don't NEED one, I want one, it makes everything much more comfortable for me.

It's just much easier to use an ECV than to walk with my two crutches and my prosthetic legs (yes both) that I have needed since birth for the many miles that are needed to tour the parks. Except for my crutches, just looking at me, you cannot tell I have the prosthetics. I did this for many many years, not wanting to be a "scooter user" and abuse the system or get special treatment - I was always told that I was just like anyone else - so I sucked it up, took the pain - I took care of my blisters, was constantly drenched in sweat, handled all of the issues that arose from my prosthetics on a nightly basis and iced my hands every night to reduce the swelling. I waited in line like everyone else. Stood on the bus so that women and children could sit. One year a friend convinced me that I would enjoy the parks much more if I used the scooter, and she was right.

Are there people that abuse the system? Of course, any system is abused.

Do they have an unfair advantage over everyone else? NO - it all balances out in the end. There is no line cutting for rides, we enter and load for most as you would. When we do get separate loading areas, they are in the back, or the very front - not always the best seats. I don't ride many Omnimover rides because I don't want them to stop them. You see the ECV "privilege" in going to the front of the bus line, what you don't see is the fight that we need to go through when we need to get through a crowd. Do your feet get stuck in the tracks on main st? Do people stop in front of you and you are helpless to turn and move past them easily? Those who can walk can easily side step - ECVs cannot. It takes us 2 to 3 times as long to leave a park in a crowd - so when we get to the bus, the line to the front (besides being needed for loading purposes) is just an equalizer, not a privilege. You also don't see what happens at unload time, because you easily step off the bus and you are happily on your way. ECVs are the last to be off the bus - guests get off first, then the ECV. Once again, you easily go ahead and get to your room or the food court etc, while we are being unloaded.

Are there people who don't know how to drive and knock things off of the shelves and who are jerks? Of course! but I could show you just as many idiots who have two good feet who cause just as many issues.

It all balances out - and we all need to be patient.

Sorry for the vent - but many won't understand this until they need to go through it themselves or with a loved one.

For what it is worth, I would never deny a person in your situation a scooter. I am tired of the lazy abusers, of which you are clearly not. I also highly respect that you tough it out sometimes. That's pretty freakin' hard core.
 

jloucks

Well-Known Member
Well, then I suggest you stand at the entrance way and inspect all of those body parts on everyone entering to determine whether in your almighty view they deserve a scooter. How ignorant and arrogant of you to pretend to dictate whether someone else’s ailment is sufficient to justify a scooter.

Wait? What? I never said anything about me inspecting body parts. Where did you get that? I would suggest the same system we use to provide handicapped parking permits. Let the doctors handle it. Right now, there is no system.

Better than your idea of just making people crawl around the park on their hands and knees! (see what I did there, I took a page out of your playbook and pulled some bull out of the clear blue and stated it as if you said it yourself).
 

draybook

Well-Known Member
I have to disagree with you on this. I know a number of families that took their infants, it wasn't for the baby's benefit but for the family's. Many parents have more then one child and why deprive a family of their visit because they have a baby.


Being a parent, I totally get why they do this, and again I don't knock it. You're asking a lot of young kids, and sometimes having them in a stroller for the parks is a win-win decision, even for people around them. I'd much rather see an older kid in a stroller then having to deal with him melting down near me.

I do understand the frustration, of seeing a sea of strollers at MK, it does seem much, but that's the price of success. Disney is marketing itself as a family vacation, and families have little ones some of which need strollers

As for the ECVs, I think those a little out of control, but again that goes along with, should we deprive someone having issues with walking to not attend?


"Raises hand"...guilty! As most of you guys know, our two oldest are 18 and 17 now and the two youngest are 21 months and almost 8 months old. There's no way we can split them all up. I found it pretty relaxing to have the two babies with us. Sure, we didn't ride as many rides or watch as many shows as we used to, but we also took it slower and it was worth every penny. Heck, the look and oohs and ahhs from Chris(21 month) during Happily Ever After while we sat by Gastons eating a cinnamon roll was worth it by itself.
 

JusticeDisney

Well-Known Member
Wait? What? I never said anything about me inspecting body parts. Where did you get that? I would suggest the same system we use to provide handicapped parking permits. Let the doctors handle it. Right now, there is no system.

Better than your idea of just making people crawl around the park on their hands and knees! (see what I did there, I took a page out of your playbook and pulled some bull out of the clear blue and stated it as if you said it yourself).
Clearly, you struggle with reading comprehension, so let me type slower for you. You went on and on listing different ailments or conditions, and then went on to proclaim that in those situations a person doesn’t need a scooter but merely wants one. That is the very definition of ignorance and arrogance. You have no clue how a certain ailment or condition affects a particular person. Maybe we should have every single person who enters the park get inspected by a professional like you suggest. I mean, we don’t want slow walkers getting in our way, after all.
 

PrincessNelly_NJ

Well-Known Member
Wait? What? I never said anything about me inspecting body parts. Where did you get that? I would suggest the same system we use to provide handicapped parking permits. Let the doctors handle it. Right now, there is no system.

Better than your idea of just making people crawl around the park on their hands and knees! (see what I did there, I took a page out of your playbook and pulled some bull out of the clear blue and stated it as if you said it yourself).

I think you missed the point. You have no idea whether someone needs one or not just by looking at them. My father had his back broken in a car accident and can't stand for more than a few minutes without being in pain. This then lead to him gaining weight and becoming larger. If you saw him in a scooter at the parks, would you assume he is just lazy because of his size? Without knowing that he has had over 7 surgeries and still remains in constant pain.

Also, scooters are NOT cheap, so I highly doubt people are abusing them as much as you believe they are.
 

JusticeDisney

Well-Known Member
I think you missed the point. You have no idea whether someone needs one or not just by looking at them. My father had his back broken in a car accident and can't stand for more than a few minutes without being in pain. This then lead to him gaining weight and becoming larger. If you saw him in a scooter at the parks, would you assume he is just lazy because of his size? Without knowing that he has had over 7 surgeries and still remains in constant pain.

Also, scooters are NOT cheap, so I highly doubt people are abusing them as much as you believe they are.
Check. Mate. Thank you.
 

OneofThree

Well-Known Member
I think you missed the point. You have no idea whether someone needs one or not just by looking at them. My father had his back broken in a car accident and can't stand for more than a few minutes without being in pain. This then lead to him gaining weight and becoming larger. If you saw him in a scooter at the parks, would you assume he is just lazy because of his size? Without knowing that he has had over 7 surgeries and still remains in constant pain.

Also, scooters are NOT cheap, so I highly doubt people are abusing them as much as you believe they are.

The member whose post you quoted was in no way referring to someone such as your father, who, would have no difficulty obtaining accessibility aids based upon professional evaluation.

Maybe we should have every single person who enters the park get inspected by a professional like you suggest.

Or, those with a modicum of intelligence might suggest alternatives similar to, or as simple as linking access to state-approved handicap parking permits, just to name one.
 

JusticeDisney

Well-Known Member
The member whose post you quoted was in no way referring to someone such as your father, who, would have no difficulty obtaining accessibility aids based upon professional evaluation.



Or, those with a modicum of intelligence might suggest alternatives similar to, or as simple as linking access to state-approved handicap parking permits, just to name one.
Or, those who aren’t literally brain dead might just get over it and stop whining and complaining that their precious amusement park time got ever so slightly interrupted by someone in a scooter whom they don’t deem scooter-worthy. with your first world problem BS.
 
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OneofThree

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Or, those who aren’t literally brain dead might just get over it and stop whining and complaining that their precious amusement park time got ever so slightly interrupted by someone in a scooter whom they don’t deem scooter-worthy. with your first world problem BS.

Looks like you're in the wrong thread my friend.
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PrincessNelly_NJ

Well-Known Member
The member whose post you quoted was in no way referring to someone such as your father, who, would have no difficulty obtaining accessibility aids based upon professional evaluation.



Or, those with a modicum of intelligence might suggest alternatives similar to, or as simple as linking access to state-approved handicap parking permits, just to name one.

From the previous post made that member, it did indeed seem like that was what he/she felt initially. However, I think asking for a medical evaluation to visit WDW on a scooter is kinda ridiculous. Its hard enough to get doctor's appointment for basic needs - so to waste their time over a trip when someone else needs medical care would be selfish. Not to mention the cost of a visit & paperwork fees in additional to the cost of a scooter rental.

At the end of the day, whether a person needs or doesn't need a scooter seems like a personal choice with no impact on the trip of others. I've had more issues with strollers than a scooter.

Maybe WDW should have reserved paths for those on scooters in high traffic areas to make things easier for everyone.
 

jloucks

Well-Known Member
Clearly, you struggle with reading comprehension, so let me type slower for you. You went on and on listing different ailments or conditions, and then went on to proclaim that in those situations a person doesn’t need a scooter but merely wants one. That is the very definition of ignorance and arrogance. You have no clue how a certain ailment or condition affects a particular person. Maybe we should have every single person who enters the park get inspected by a professional like you suggest. I mean, we don’t want slow walkers getting in our way, after all.

Reading comprehension does seem to be an issue. I never said anything about inspecting anybody as they enter the park. Seriously, you need to stop just regurgitating anything you imagine as fact.
 

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