Universal Hollywood Rip Ride And Rock It. Wow!

Thelazer

Well-Known Member
I think this will do more to pull from people going to Bush Gardens or Sea World that it will for Disney.

Most people who come to Florida, visit Disney first and then Uni.
Disney's got a LOCK on the young kiddie market, no coaster at Uni is going to change that.

Jay
 

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
Guys? This is a huge steel coaster all over Universal Studios and CityWalk, causing noise pollution, disrupting skylines and making everything ugly. What happened to premium themed rides? This ride's theme, for lack of a better word, is "teh interwebz". :rolleyes:

Funnily enough I dont ride Duelling Dragons to look at a fibre glass castle. And let me get this straight, you are concerned about noise pollution over an area that has three open air stages and half a dozen bars and clubs??? Would the Sky line your keen to preserve not include the current back of the Cineplex
:shrug:

Or are you fan boy fishing.
 

WDWFigment

Well-Known Member
All I know is:

Recession + Competition strengthening + no new major WDW attraction announcements + overbuilding of Disney Vacation Club = Disaster iminent.

I'll give you all the the rest, but if you're suggesting DVC will be impacted by the recession, the exact converse is actually likely to happen. People, for some reason, consider timeshares a good investment and continue to spend money on them during recessions. They are still seen as a good way to plan for future vacations (which people never want to give up) "cheaply" (even though timeshares are not a good investment...)

Now, the overbuilding could be affected by WDW losing business as a whole to its competitors (and if that's what you were actually suggesting, my apologies--I wouldn't be surprised myself if this happened).
 

hpyhnt 1000

Well-Known Member
Wow! That does look pretty neat. The LEDs should look great at night, and the interactivity will attract people as well. I gotta admit, Disney might want to announce something here ASAP: Universal is taking the spotlight away from the Mouse with all of these upcoming attractions.
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
All I know is:

Recession + Competition strengthening + no new major WDW attraction announcements + overbuilding of Disney Vacation Club = Disaster iminent.
Disaster...:ROFLOL:

Seriously?

Recession is usually temporary, and please explain how DVC is going to ruin Disney?
 

Skyway

Well-Known Member
Yeah, Universal is reeeeally blowing Disney away.

Since 2001, they've added one new roller coaster, a 3d show, a seasonal lagoon show, and they're about to build one more coaster, a refurbed simulator based on a 20 year old cartoon, and Potterland.

In that same time, Disney's added Expedition Everest, Nemo the Musical, Dino-Rama, Mission Space, Soarin', The Seas with Nemo, Turtle Talk, updated films in Canada, China, and America, the Mexico upgrade, new Innoventions exhibits, an updated Spaceship Earth, Toy Story Mania, Light Motors Action, One Man's Dream, Mickey's Philharmagic, Stitch, Monsters Inc, Pooh's Playground, Aladdin's Carpets, major refurbs to Pirates, Small World, and Haunted Mansion, as well as Wishes fireworks and numerous parades throughout the resort, not to mention all the new holiday events.

Yeah, I'd much rather go see all those Universal additions. There's never anything new at Disney!
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
Yeah, Universal is reeeeally blowing Disney away.

Since 2001, they've added one new roller coaster, a 3d show, a seasonal lagoon show, and they're about to build one more coaster, a refurbed simulator based on a 20 year old cartoon, and Potterland.

In that same time, Disney's added Expedition Everest, Nemo the Musical, Dino-Rama, Mission Space, Soarin', The Seas with Nemo, Turtle Talk, updated films in Canada, China, and America, the Mexico upgrade, new Innoventions exhibits, an updated Spaceship Earth, Toy Story Mania, Light Motors Action, One Man's Dream, Mickey's Philharmagic, Stitch, Monsters Inc, Pooh's Playground, Aladdin's Carpets, major refurbs to Pirates, Small World, and Haunted Mansion, as well as Wishes fireworks and numerous parades throughout the resort, not to mention all the new holiday events.

Yeah, I'd much rather go see all those Universal additions. There's never anything new at Disney!
YOU! Out of here with your logic and postive thinking!
 

Tim G

Well-Known Member
Now THAT'S the innovation that Disney has been lacking! Universal will take that idea and make a 'B' ride, when Disney could have taken the idea and made a kickin' 'A' ride out of it!

One way or another, it's Disney's turn! Freakin' announce something sweet already!

The coaster we're talking about is an already existing coaster... nothing innovating about buying an existing model...

Mission: Space and Expedition: Everest were and still are very innovating...

:(
 

KaliSplash

Well-Known Member
Disney is unlikely to try to outdo other parks in roller coasters and that doesn't bother me in the least.

On the other hand, one does wonder what else will be coming after TSM other than badly needed refurbs at MK
 

Enigma

Account Suspended
Yeah, Universal is reeeeally blowing Disney away.

Since 2001, they've added one new roller coaster, a 3d show, a seasonal lagoon show, and they're about to build one more coaster, a refurbed simulator based on a 20 year old cartoon, and Potterland.

In that same time, Disney's added Expedition Everest, Nemo the Musical, Dino-Rama, Mission Space, Soarin', The Seas with Nemo, Turtle Talk, updated films in Canada, China, and America, the Mexico upgrade, new Innoventions exhibits, an updated Spaceship Earth, Toy Story Mania, Light Motors Action, One Man's Dream, Mickey's Philharmagic, Stitch, Monsters Inc, Pooh's Playground, Aladdin's Carpets, major refurbs to Pirates, Small World, and Haunted Mansion, as well as Wishes fireworks and numerous parades throughout the resort, not to mention all the new holiday events.

Yeah, I'd much rather go see all those Universal additions. There's never anything new at Disney!

Because Pooh's Playground is something to plan vacations around!

Not that Dino-Rama, Aladdin's Carpits, downgrade of spaceship earth, and a bucketload of cartoon cashins are anything to write home about either.

I don't get how adding 3 AA's and a video projector to Pirates qualifies as a MAJOR refurbishment. They didn't even upgrade all the speakers (they did in California) nor did they extend the track or add any brand new show scenes.

That list of yours is really not that impressive to fans or the average guest.

And for the person that said Disney has a lock on kids....I think Harry Potter is a bigger lure because, to use disney's spokesperson talk against them, Harry Potter is much more RELEVANT to modern theme park goers.
 

WaltsApprentice

New Member
Because Pooh's Playground is something to plan vacations around! TRUE!

Not that Dino-Rama, Aladdin's Carpits,(Agree) downgrade of spaceship earth (OPINION not everyone hates it, some people like it better.), and a bucketload of cartoon cashins are anything to write home about either.

I don't get how adding 3 AA's and a video projector to Pirates qualifies as a MAJOR refurbishment(well you miss also how they changed the landing of the drop, the updated costumes, different storyline, new props and light, and pirates the movie theme music at the water fall). They didn't even upgrade all the speakers (they did in California) (was this actual fact?? Because it "sounds" to me that they did..)nor did they extend the track or add any brand new show scenes. (Um what do you call the final seen with jack?? How is that not a new show scene?? And why and how could you extend the track...would there be really a purpose??)

That list of yours is really not that impressive to fans or the average guest.

And for the person that said Disney has a lock on kids....I think Harry Potter is a bigger lure because, to use disney's spokesperson talk against them, Harry Potter is much more RELEVANT to modern theme park goers( Remember thats one Land! Where WDW has 4 parks with multiple lands that are different for everyone!!).


---Responses are in Red :)

Also to add...lets just wait...until 4-22-08 before we start bashing how disney doesn't annouce five million rides at once.:wave: Lets also remember that IOA hasn't had a major attraction in years...there just doing catch up right now!
 

pheneix

Well-Known Member
Yeah, Universal is reeeeally blowing Disney away.

Since 2001, they've added one new roller coaster, a 3d show, a seasonal lagoon show, and they're about to build one more coaster, a refurbed simulator based on a 20 year old cartoon, and Potterland.

In that same time, Disney's added Expedition Everest, Nemo the Musical, Dino-Rama, Mission Space, Soarin', The Seas with Nemo, Turtle Talk, updated films in Canada, China, and America, the Mexico upgrade, new Innoventions exhibits, an updated Spaceship Earth, Toy Story Mania, Light Motors Action, One Man's Dream, Mickey's Philharmagic, Stitch, Monsters Inc, Pooh's Playground, Aladdin's Carpets, major refurbs to Pirates, Small World, and Haunted Mansion, as well as Wishes fireworks and numerous parades throughout the resort, not to mention all the new holiday events.

Yeah, I'd much rather go see all those Universal additions. There's never anything new at Disney!

Quality over quantity. Not that Universal's stuff is always head over heels better than Disney's, but it is still generally better. I'd take Universal's improvements over that guargantuan list of Disney stuff, considering that many of Disney's updates were (substantial) downgrades from their predecessors.

I'll give you all the the rest, but if you're suggesting DVC will be impacted by the recession, the exact converse is actually likely to happen. People, for some reason, consider timeshares a good investment and continue to spend money on them during recessions.

We're rapidly approaching a time where the average consumer won't be able to make a payment on their house, much less a timeshare. The credit crunch is real and it WILL effect Disney's DVC business. That they chose to build so many units so fast could be disasterous.

On the other hand, one does wonder what else will be coming after TSM other than badly needed refurbs at MK

Exactly. Sometimes in this business you are only as good as your next ride. Right now Universal Orlando has more going for it than any other resort on the planet. Period.

The coaster we're talking about is an already existing coaster... nothing innovating about buying an existing model...

Amen. Vekoma's next generation coaster track was a perfect match for Expedition Everest!
 

Lee

Adventurer
The coaster we're talking about is an already existing coaster... nothing innovating about buying an existing model...
The one at Uni?
Nope. Fully custom job, not another one like it anywhere.
Like Disney did with Everest and Vekoma, Uni and Maurer are working together to build something quite innovative. Good for them.
 

Shaman

Well-Known Member
Competition is good for business. Now it is Disney's turn to counter with additions of their own.

Uni is definitely taking it to Disney with the name (and some of the concept) for the coaster....because its obvious their coaster will be THE one to ride if you want to ROCK out...goodbye Aerosmith.

:lol:

Besides its not like their aren't rumors out there regarding what Disney is planning. If the rumor mill quiets, then we'll worry.

Maybe not then either.
:lookaroun

Those pesky video screens keep popping up all over the place. Who would've thunk they'd be "cool" enough for a coaster. :rolleyes:
 

djkidkaz

Well-Known Member
Let Universal blow their load early by announcing everything now, then once the chatter really starts to pick up, Disney can step in and steal the thunder with all their announcements and plans. Your average consumer will just be confused, and things like Potterland will end up being tossed in with all the Disney chatter and people will assume that its somewhere on Disney property. People are stupid, remember that. :rolleyes:
 

Enigma

Account Suspended
Let Universal blow their load early by announcing everything now, then once the chatter really starts to pick up, Disney can step in and steal the thunder with all their announcements and plans. Your average consumer will just be confused, and things like Potterland will end up being tossed in with all the Disney chatter and people will assume that its somewhere on Disney property. People are stupid, remember that. :rolleyes:

Disney insiders would be letting us know if anything major is about to enter construction. So far we haven't heard anything and judging by permits no major new additions are coming in the near future (unless you count an overdue Space mountain refurbishment as major). By the time WDW gets off their duff it will be too little too late im afraid.

People are dumb but I think it will be quite clear where the Harry Potter action is at. Eveni if some adults get confused there kids will know exactly where Harry Potter is and so will the fantasy nerds.

Disney would do wise to announce at least some major new attractions in the near future but it has to be something substantial like a Lucas Star Wars/indy land, major e-ticket for magic kingdom, a narnia/beastly kingdom, major overhaul of Epcot, etc. Something of that calibur in order to stifle the threats of competition and recession.
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
Disney insiders would be letting us know if anything major is about to enter construction. So far we haven't heard anything and judging by permits no major new additions are coming in the near future (unless you count an overdue Space mountain refurbishment as major). By the time WDW gets off their duff it will be too little too late im afraid.

People are dumb but I think it will be quite clear where the Harry Potter action is at. Eveni if some adults get confused there kids will know exactly where Harry Potter is and so will the fantasy nerds.

Disney would do wise to announce at least some major new attractions in the near future but it has to be something substantial like a Lucas Star Wars/indy land, major e-ticket for magic kingdom, a narnia/beastly kingdom, major overhaul of Epcot, etc. Something of that calibur in order to stifle the threats of competition and recession.
What exactly do you think is going to happen to Walt Disney World? It legitimately sounds like from your posting that WDW is actually going to go out of business.

There may be a bump in the road where Disney looses a portion of the market share, but if Disney sees the need to counter they will and everything will go back to normal.

So Universal builds something big every 10 years...That's not really a threat of the caliber that you are making it out to be.

Additionally, look at the length of the past few recessions...they all have lasted for less than a year. This isn't the Depression, it's a temporary contracting of the economy.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
Guys? This is a huge steel coaster all over Universal Studios and CityWalk, causing noise pollution, disrupting skylines and making everything ugly. What happened to premium themed rides? This ride's theme, for lack of a better word, is "teh interwebz". :rolleyes:

True.However,Disney really does need to do something.Happy 40th anyone?
 

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