Rich Brownn
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One small land with one new attractions vis. an entire theme park capable of holding an estimated 40,000 people. Apples and oranges
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Universal Epic Universe (South Expansion Complex) - Opens May 22 2025
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TalkToEthan
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As far as I know I made a fairly reasonable comparison: wand and wand
That is my main outstanding issue with Epic Universe now.
We would like to stay at Helios, but if it doesn't come with Express Pass, even just for Epic and not the other two parks, then why wouldn't we just stay at Terra Luna/Stella Nova and use the price difference to start to pay for Express Pass?
Starship824
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- In the Parks
- No
Almost the same as Tron! (I think)
I know this Site was barely started but what was the timeline for IOA?
Coaster Lover
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
From what I can find, Tron was announced on July 15, 2017 and had it's grand opening April 4, 2023... 2089 days later (or 5 years, 8 months and 20 days). So comparing announcement to grand opening dates, Tron took 80.4% as long to open as Epic Universe did...
CoasterCowboy67
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1 carbon copy replica attraction vs. a whole theme park (with only 2 carbon copy replicas). Yikes
7? Nah. It was announced in 2019.
And that was under announcement and work long before Pandemic delays compared to EPIC which was only announced a year before pandemic delays. (while Hagrids had just opened prior and Velocicoaster underway)
lazyboy97o
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TRON was announced before most design work was done. Epic Universe was announced years after design work commenced.
Starship824
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
Tron was announced for Magic Kingdom when it was already open at Shanghai a year earlier. Everything was done for that ride. The only difference was they built it in a different spot and the train had to go through it.
AdventureHasAName
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In defense of the Walt Disney Company, I don't think there is anyone working for the parks division right now that has any demonstrated aptitude at constructing a theme park ... let alone building one on a reasonable time frame.
UNCgolf
Well-Known Member
I was just thinking if I was going to Universal, why in the world would I stay at Helios over Royal Pacific etc. if it doesn't come with the Express Pass for USF and IoA?
Enough reasons to keep its room number booked for a long time.
1. It is new/novelty
2. Class and style/luxory novelty
3. Location Location Location To the point where you can walk into the park.
4. Night time show from certain rooms/View of the park
It evens out to give people the perks at the older ones because they are larger properties and it keeps demand for those.
Same reason why people still stay at Fort Wildernes but transportation by boat to MK is really the only perk park wise different from a moderate.
Looking at Disney Food Blog, they are showing an image stating Helios starts at $293+tax based on a 4-night stay.
I am guessing that this will be for a car park view, at the cheapest time of the year, but when everyone was guessing $500-$700-$1000 per night, depending on view, and time of year, then their cheapest price doesn't seem to be too bad, given the fact that it is without Express Pass, and would make sense for the above reasons. It may still hit those higher prices, and then the question of value would be asked again without Express Pass, but that cheapest price is fairly reasonable, given it's location.
lazyboy97o
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That’s not how it works.
TennHokies
New Member
I had the same question, but unfortunately Universals website now confirms Royal Pacific, Portofino, and Hard Rock Express Pass “excludes Volcano Bay and Epic Universe“. All things subject to change in the future of course but not likely anytime soon.
VB still not included??? How Come???
Interesting. I think that will be with ticket packages though at a minimum of four nights three day ticket packages.
As you said, that is the starting at, lowest time of year and non peak demand. Should season price at 4 night stay standard rooms.
I would not expect that room only price any time soon.
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I am still keen to see for UK Visitors when or how they add Epic Universe to the Park Tickets. In UK we can buy a 14 day pass for a set sum (Circa 400£) and that opens up both parks and V.Bay. Keen to know what they do with Epic Universe. So many options from:
1. Not include it full stop.
2. Include it but ration it to a single days visit
3. Include it but ration it to a set period thats more than a day
4. Include it like any of the other parks, with the same usage - just with a price increase on that actual combo ticket
1. Not include it full stop.
2. Include it but ration it to a single days visit
3. Include it but ration it to a set period thats more than a day
4. Include it like any of the other parks, with the same usage - just with a price increase on that actual combo ticket