sonoma15
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Room rates have not been announced yet.I must have missed it. when did Universal announce room rates for Helios?
Room rates have not been announced yet.I must have missed it. when did Universal announce room rates for Helios?
Do you have any specific information? Is this personal speculation?They will offer it but not first year maybe not for 18 months. But eventually see you will get express pass with all top hotel levels.
They have not yet announced rates. People are just speculating.I must have missed it. when did Universal announce room rates for Helios?
It makes a lot of sense. Hotel Express pass predates the extensive selling of express passes. Sapphire doesn’t offer express passes. Volcano Bay doesn’t offer any hotel express passes.They have not yet announced rates. People are just speculating.
Also: on a Universal forum, folks are pointing out that the Unlimited Express that comes with the top three hotels is based on an old contract with Loews and unlikely to involve Epic nor Helios.
If true, that’s a major loss of a Universal hotel perk.
Not really the point, if the price tier for this hotel doesn't include UE it's not really worth choosing it over the ones that still do unless there's a really good perk the others don't have, which it seems like they are just thinking it's "location location location" with this one.It makes a lot of sense. Hotel Express pass predates the extensive selling of express passes. Sapphire doesn’t offer express passes. Volcano Bay doesn’t offer any hotel express passes.
The internal charge to add hotel express passes would probably be.$$$.
And complimentary Cabana. Not free...but the attendants will compliment you.Don't worry about pool slides. Your Epic Universe park ticket will automatically* include access to Volcano Bay... for the extra price of a Volcano Bay add-on.
*and inseparably
Oooh I’ll pack 3 Speedos then!And complimentary Cabana. Not free...but the attendants will compliment you.
But even 500 rooms multiplied by 4 per room on average is only 2000 people in the park (assuming ALL 2000 entered the park, and no one goes to any other park).
I’d say give Helios free unlimited express pass and raise the rates by $200/night for that perk.
It's almost certainly not about staff or pricing - I'm sure Express will get added eventually as a benefit for Helios eventually. But for the first new major theme park in Orlando in 25+ years, I'm willing to bet Universal isn't going to have Express at all for the first few years of operation. They're going to be prioritizing guest experience to try and make sure they are sending their guests and critics home preaching about how great the park is and how it is the new gold standard for theme parks. Part of that means making sure the park is running as efficiently as possible, which is going to be a lot easier for a brand new park to figure out when each attraction has just one queue before adding the capacity variable that is Express. Beyond that, keeping all guests on relatively equal footing when it comes to how they experience the park, particularly in its early days, helps minimize the sort of "pay to play" negative press that surrounds much of the Disney experience these days.Exactly - how many more staff member's would it take to be able to run Helios-exclusive express pass for the up to 2000 guests staying there at one time? If they were worried about capacity, just make it useable once on each ride per day.
Exactly. With the resort having it's own park entrance, those guests will get into the park quicker and get to the attractions they want the most before anybody else gets in.It's almost certainly not about staff or pricing - I'm sure Express will get added eventually as a benefit for Helios eventually. But for the first new major theme park in Orlando in 25+ years, I'm willing to bet Universal isn't going to have Express at all for the first few years of operation. They're going to be prioritizing guest experience to try and make sure they are sending their guests and critics home preaching about how great the park is and how it is the new gold standard for theme parks. Part of that means making sure the park is running as efficiently as possible, which is going to be a lot easier for a brand new park to figure out when each attraction has just one queue before adding the capacity variable that is Express. Beyond that, keeping all guests on relatively equal footing when it comes to how they experience the park, particularly in its early days, helps minimize the sort of "pay to play" negative press that surrounds much of the Disney experience these days.
An early park entry gives Helios guests enough of a benefit to make it feel like they're getting something for their money while not at nearly the same expense to the average park guest experience that Express would have.
Exactly. With the resort having it's own park entrance, those guests will get into the park quicker and get to the attractions they want the most before anybody else gets in.
No indication that this is the case, yet. It might just be the early entry that every Resort already gets, we just know EU will now be included.Is early entry only available to Helios guests for Epic?
Nothing specific but wouldn't make sense to offer that perk that they have had for years and years and is huge perk on why people book top end hotels.Do you have any specific information? Is this personal speculation?
Posted information on Universals site says Helios guests won't get Express.Nothing specific but wouldn't make sense to offer that perk that they have had for years and years and is huge perk on why people book top end hotels.
Who wants smaller windows?Look at the Grand Californian, Disneyland Hotel Paris, and Mira Costa. While not at proper theme park scale, they do at least mask this by scaling down the upper floors by using smaller windows.
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