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Uni Locks Away Patent for Rainy Day
- Thread starter Tom
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I don't doubt what you say is the case now, but the patent itself lines up with MM+ more than what you describe. Maybe UNI had similar plans to WDW and has decided to move in a different direction based on the expense and problems associated with MM+? I don't know why they would have filed it as a defensive patent if they knew all along they had no intention of using it for data mining and ride reservations. If I were UNI observing the problems of MM+, I'd be doing everything I could to diminsh any prior plans to use the patent as it reads.
I think we can all agree that whatever plans they had in the past, UNI will not implement something like MM+ if it doesn't work out well for WDW. If it does work out well, UNI will have something similar up and running not long after. Just like WDW sees how UNI has been successful building new, top level attractions at reasonable budgets and is moving to do the same. Or maybe I just made that last part up.
Jane Doe
Well-Known Member
Is lighting up a phone on a dark ride more acceptable than drinking gravy in a built up area?
Queeniediva
New Member
Probably because I have ridden Spaceship Earth 800 times and it always has the shortest and quickest line. I have the dialogue memorized.. I would rather someone be on their smart phone than taking flash pictures during it....I don't think the technology thing is as dire as you make it sound. I am at the point I don't do Disney in a race anyway. I don't bring a backpack. I don't run around freaking out. I do what I want, I eat dinner when I want...I ride when I want...but since the choices about Soarin are: a) wait for 150 minutes b) get there at 9 am and run for a fastpass c)not ride at all or d) book a fastpass. I'm going to choose D since before I have been choosing C...and I think that the reason why some of the main rides have lines that have gotten so long in the first place are because of the advent of the fastpass....
Also that thing they had at Universal where you had to pay 75 dollars or whatever and get all front of the line, I did that for my cousin...it sucked...I was like "I can get a fastpass for free" I don't even know why I was there....just thought I would throw that in...
And yes I ate at Chefs de France.
Queeniediva
New Member
Nope, but neither was the guy behind me flashing pictures in my face, so I figured I would make the best of it and make my reservation.
And by the way what is a "built up" area? It was a restaurant...
jakeman
Well-Known Member
Only if you are making a reservation to drink gravy...
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
This ones getting funny too
In a hysterical sort of way.
You can almost hear the pitch of each typed word going up.
Sassagoula-Rvr
Well-Known Member
exactly...if I'm on their property...they have a right to know...don't like it...don't go on their property. If someday they can see based on data that I would rather ride Splash Mountain 100000000 times per day...and offer me a fastpass there...more power to them...and I will eagerly use it.
Well, shucks! Just when I was starting to think Comcast had yet again one-up'd the Mouse by way of its vastly superior theme parks and other perfect offerings.
Sassagoula-Rvr
Well-Known Member
Alright...please refrain from posting until I have read the ENTIRE thread...thank you!
"Por favor, abstenerse de publicar hasta que haya leído todo el hilo, gracias."
(If I offended anyone with that...please blame Google...I know how much you all love Spanish spiels)
"Por favor, abstenerse de publicar hasta que haya leído todo el hilo, gracias."
(If I offended anyone with that...please blame Google...I know how much you all love Spanish spiels)
luv
Well-Known Member
I get what you're saying with the Walt/Roy thing. But you don't need two people, really. You just need one good businessman who understands his business.
You don't need a necessarily need creative guy to be in charge. You just need a business guy who understands how important that it to his business. Or a creative guy who knows how to listen to the right businessman.
(Or woman, of course.)
If you're selling family fun in theme parks, you have good, fun rides and you keep the parks clean. You focus on those things first. This isn't rocket science.
Sassagoula-Rvr
Well-Known Member
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luv
Well-Known Member
Don't bother. You won't convince me otherwise.
I don't really want to fight, anyway, and will bow out and give everyone the last word.
orky8
Well-Known Member
I get what you're saying with the Walt/Roy thing. But you don't need two people, really. You just need one good businessman who understands his business.
You don't need a necessarily need creative guy to be in charge. You just need a business guy who understands how important that it to his business. Or a creative guy who knows how to listen to the right businessman.
(Or woman, of course.)
If you're selling family fun in theme parks, you have good, fun rides and you keep the parks clean. You focus on those things first. This isn't rocket science.
I agree, but Disney really does well with a creative person constantly asking what can we do to make this better, with a business person to keep that person in check. I agree with you that theoretically, one person could fill that role, but I think two people really offer a better check and balance than an internal battle.
In any event, today we are a far cry from that because the entire management team is simply asking what can we do to make this more profitable.
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
So, what percentage of Disney's current business is theme parks?
I'm fairly certain that the Media Networks division of Disney made up the largest share by a large margin in the most recent financial release. I want to say the media division brought in 6.8 Billion in profit, while the parks brought in 571 Million.
Seems to me they might need a media focused CEO, which they have.
polynesiangirl
Well-Known Member
Why oh why do I read these threads?!
(Sorry all, I do realize popping in and adding nothing constructive is totally obnoxious. I just needed to vent.)
It's naive to think that there are any real secrets within respective industries. TWDC can't develop something as massive as MM+ without someone else in the industry knowing about it. There just isn't that level of security, no matter how hard you try. Just like McDonald's knows what Burger King R&D is working on, and vice versa.
In fact, there may very well be 2nd, 3rd or 4th party consultants who worked, or are currently working, on both projects/patents. There are many people who are involved in these types of endeavors, and they're all human....they all have faults. Did Disney want those Avatar plans to leak last year? Probably not, but now they're everywhere because of a few "loose" contractors.
You can't let your largest competitor take a leap of this size without at least having something in your back pocket "just in case". It goes without saying that all major theme park operators will move to nearly entirely electronic or virtual media at some point, with the larger players all having dynamic ticketing and queuing systems. Disney is just the first to take the plunge, so to speak. And perhaps Universal has intentions to do something similar now, or in the future....or perhaps they're just sitting on patents with no intention of using them at all.
Disney is using its horsepower to lead the industry by being the beta tester. In the long run, it will prove to be successful. And there will be many spawns throughout the industry.
In fact, there may very well be 2nd, 3rd or 4th party consultants who worked, or are currently working, on both projects/patents. There are many people who are involved in these types of endeavors, and they're all human....they all have faults. Did Disney want those Avatar plans to leak last year? Probably not, but now they're everywhere because of a few "loose" contractors.
You can't let your largest competitor take a leap of this size without at least having something in your back pocket "just in case". It goes without saying that all major theme park operators will move to nearly entirely electronic or virtual media at some point, with the larger players all having dynamic ticketing and queuing systems. Disney is just the first to take the plunge, so to speak. And perhaps Universal has intentions to do something similar now, or in the future....or perhaps they're just sitting on patents with no intention of using them at all.
Disney is using its horsepower to lead the industry by being the beta tester. In the long run, it will prove to be successful. And there will be many spawns throughout the industry.
jakeman
Well-Known Member
They're funny in a clow-car accident sort of way...
Why oh why do I read these threads?!
(Sorry all, I do realize popping in and adding nothing constructive is totally obnoxious. I just needed to vent.)
I get what you're saying with the Walt/Roy thing. But you don't need two people, really. You just need one good businessman who understands his business.
You don't need a necessarily need creative guy to be in charge. You just need a business guy who understands how important that it to his business. Or a creative guy who knows how to listen to the right businessman.
(Or woman, of course.)
If you're selling family fun in theme parks, you have good, fun rides and you keep the parks clean. You focus on those things first. This isn't rocket science.
You can get by with that one person, if they're gifted in the realms of both business and creativity. Walt was a creative genius and knew how to select talent and motivate those people to produce what he imagined. Roy kept the company from going bankrupt while Walt advanced the company.
But Walt and Roy were equals in the hierarchy of the company, so you essentially had one entity in charge which possessed the necessary qualities. TWDC does not have that today. Everything is done by looking at the stock ticker first, and last.