Tyler's Whoop-Dee-Doo Transportation Update

Invero

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Since a bunch of folks have thier own regular updates, I thought I'd post mine, but with a twist. Small things in Transportation that no one would really care about. LOL


First thing - Driving down World Drive today under the water bridge, and I saw a strange boat crossing the channel. What kind of boat was it? An Animal Kingdom Discovery River Boat! I have NO CLUE as to why it was in Bay Lake/Seven Seas... *shrug* They could very well be trying it out to increase capacity on the PO/GF route. I didn't see it in operation with guests though.


Secondly - Construction has begun at the Magic Kingdom bus stops. The center loop is finally getting repaved. (South loop and North loops soon to follow) Construction will continue through the rest of the year. Delays should be minimal, if any. However, expect load zones to change as needed.


Third - Disney seems to be fed up with the mechanical problems on our new Nova LFS low floor buses. Major design flaws are causing serious (and expensive) problems to many parts of the bus. There are a bunch of rumors going around. Some say we're getting a test bus from China in. However, through a few official sources, combined with a few rumors, my guess is that we're getting a VanHool A330 from AC Transit in California. Possibly even the AG330. We'll see. We also had a New Flyer D40i Invero last year, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a NABI coming around, either.


Forth - We've found that our 20 year old RTS buses seem to be more reliable than the brand new Nova LFS low floor buses. The only thing wrong with the older RTS buses is that the interiors are old, and falling apart. So, we've started to rehab the interiors of some buses. 2734 is the first bus, and WOW it looks great. New seats, flooring, walls, ceiling, etc. The only thing that wasn't updated was the windows. (In order to replace the hazy lucite windows with something clearer, it would require a full rebuild of the bus framework)


Fifth - LYNX has added a Mission: Space bus to thier fleet. Bus 328 was given an attractive Mission: Space wrap, and will be driving along the 50 & 56 routes promoting the new attraction. When I have my camera with me, I shall take a picture. (I'm sure Orlando Bus Ltd and Mears will soon get simmilar wraps)


Sixth - Routes are constantly being modified in hopes to provide better service. Currently, the All-Star Movies has been split from Sports & Music at the Studios, Downtown Disney, and Animal Kingdom during select evening hours. Look for upcoming changes to MK and Epcot resort area routing.




More useless information to come as I get it!
 

ToTBellHop

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Thanks, Tyler! Didn't know those new buses were having so many problems, but I think they are annoying b/c they seem to have about half as many seats as the other buses...kinda annoying.
 

Invero

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Originally posted by ISTCNavigator57
Thanks, Tyler! Didn't know those new buses were having so many problems, but I think they are annoying b/c they seem to have about half as many seats as the other buses...kinda annoying.

Low floor buses (not just the LFS) are great because they have a wide front door, and no steps, so boarding is quick. And the perimiter seating allows for a wide aisle to accomodate strollers, however it comes at a cost of 4 seats.

Our typical RTS has 41-45 seats. The Nova LFS has 35.
 

guwag

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Originally posted by Invero

Third - Disney seems to be fed up with the mechanical problems on our new Nova LFS low floor buses. Major design flaws are causing serious (and expensive) problems to many parts of the bus.

What's going wrong with the Nova LFSs? I've never seen any problems with them whilst travelling on them here in Montréal but then again I don't work with them :) I personally prefer them to the older Nova buses STM has because there are no stairs - the old grannies with the wheely baskets don't seem to like the stairs either :lol:
 
Excellent update, Tyler. Keep them coming. I can't believe, they are actually having problems with those new busses. In terms of just general looks, they look a 1000% better than the old ones that they have. Plus, the new one, in my opinion, just give you that "Disney" feel when you see them (i.e. the little Mickey Mouse ears painted around the lights on the back of them).
 

DMC-12

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Great update Tyler! Thanks!


That sucks though about the novas... :(
I dont think the CTA (Chicago Transit Authority) has had half as much trouble with them as WDW seems to be having. *shrugs*
 

Invero

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Re: Re: Tyler's Whoop-Dee-Doo Transportation Update

Originally posted by guwag
What's going wrong with the Nova LFSs? I've never seen any problems with them whilst travelling on them here in Montréal but then again I don't work with them :)

Lots of design flaws... the biggest one is the rear axle. The whole rear end just goes out. It's poorly designed, breaks often, and is expensive ($23,000) to fix.

Other issues have to do with engine malfunctions, turbos overheating, warping tires, and other smaller issues.
 

Invero

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Originally posted by antoinebusby
(i.e. the little Mickey Mouse ears painted around the lights on the back of them).

Only one bus has them. We recieved some negative comments about them from a religious group saying it made Mickey look demonic. As such, it won't be found on any other bus.
 

DMC-12

It's HarmonioUS, NOT HarmoniYOU.
Re: Re: Re: Tyler's Whoop-Dee-Doo Transportation Update

Originally posted by Invero
Other issues have to do with engine malfunctions, turbos overheating, warping tires,

Well that sounds more like a Florida heat, and dare I say... a "driver abuse" problem more than anything....
 

Invero

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Tyler's Whoop-Dee-Doo Transportation Update

Originally posted by DMC-12
Well that sounds more like a Florida heat, and dare I say... a "driver abuse" problem more than anything....

That's similar to what NovaBUS said: "You can't drive the LFS like you do the RTS!"

The RTS is a rock solid durable heavy duty mass transit bus. The LFS is touted as such, but falls incredibly short of its claims. Most of the defects have nothing to do with driver abuse.

As for the heat... yes, the heat does have something to do with it. But more rather, it's the lack of proper ventilation in the LFS engine compartment.
 

DMC-12

It's HarmonioUS, NOT HarmoniYOU.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tyler's Whoop-Dee-Doo Transportation Update

Originally posted by Invero
As for the heat... yes, the heat does have something to do with it. But more rather, it's the lack of proper ventilation in the LFS engine compartment.

Ahhhh Gotcha!... as always.. thanks for the info Tyler :) :wave:
 

Kenan

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Cool update, didnt know them buses had problems...lol. Actually I did, but nothing like that. Also..how often are the bus tires painted? Are they even painted or are they cleaned?
 
Originally posted by Invero
Only one bus has them. We recieved some negative comments about them from a religious group saying it made Mickey look demonic. As such, it won't be found on any other bus.

You have got to be kidding me. I thought the little Micky Ears were quite nice looking. Why is it that people have to turn everything into a religious battle. Seems to me, that if they focus more on their own local issues, we wouldn't have as many "religious leaders" going astray. Just my two cents.
 

Invero

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Originally posted by Kenan
Cool update, didnt know them buses had problems...lol. Actually I did, but nothing like that. Also..how often are the bus tires painted? Are they even painted or are they cleaned?

They get painted when the bus gets painted. They used to be cleaned on a nightly basis, but gotta love cutbacks. That's why they're now dingy, compared to LYNX who keeps thiers nice and white. It's amazing how such a little thing can make a big difference.
 

Invero

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Originally posted by antoinebusby
You have got to be kidding me. I thought the little Micky Ears were quite nice looking. Why is it that people have to turn everything into a religious battle. Seems to me, that if they focus more on their own local issues, we wouldn't have as many "religious leaders" going astray. Just my two cents.

*sigh* I agree with you, but sadly, Disney being Disney, we can't risk offending anyone... *shrug*

By the way, there are also other legal reasons why we're not allowed to put characters on our buses, and whatnot... (ie: wraps) It's a big huge mess of useless red tape. Oh well.
 

no2apprentice

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Great updates! And I don't think the information is useless at all. It's nice to know about some of the "behind the scenes" things that go on, and transportation is such a key component to what goes on at WDW.

Do you think they'll ever put any audio or video in the busses, or is that a long way off (if at all)?
 

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