Tropical Hideaway Construction - Tiki Room Refurbishment - Adventureland Entry Remodel

D.Silentu

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Yeah, the current projects I ve seen rolled out at DLR are lacking a certain level of class and workmanship that the old imagineers were able to accomplish. Not sure if it’s the constraints that are being placed, the quality of the imagineers or both.

I think the trap that modern imagineering often falls into has a bit to do with overreliance on self reference. It's fun that we can see the bird houses for the stars of the tiki room. It's also interesting how many allusions to Disney characters that they were able to put together for the paddles. Then, on the wall you have script referring to Aladdin, as a tribute to what was there before. Arguably the most interesting addition, Rosita, is the punch line to a half century old joke.

Imagineers have created layers of subtle backstory within the Tropical Hideaway. Many are clever and will definitely elicit a smile and some conversation. However, as varied as these references seem, they really point to only one thing: Disney. The imagineers of yesteryear did much the same thing, but their references hinted at real world or even fictional things that most people had a basic knowledge of. They kept one foot on the ground and the other in the zeitgeist. The thread of connection being woven linked fantasy and reality in a bite sized way, and when guests got a taste of this it suggested they were in a world that went beyond the boundaries of that land.

When everything connects to Disney within two degrees of separation, you eventually orient yourself within that context. The information I'm seeing tells me that I am in a Disney park, not some far off place. A reference here and there is clever, but I don't want to see a Mickey hat, Aladdin's lamp, and a Goofy doll in Star Tours luggage. I need to say that I like the look of Tropical Hideaway and I think it's a decided improvement to Adventureland. However, if it feels a bit different from the rest of the land, this is my guess why.
 

TP2000

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To me, this place looks like a generic version of Adventureland. Like someone tried to copy Adventureland's design but just missed the mark.

I dunno. Something about how Disney designs their signs, menus, and decor now just doesn't seem as good as it used too.

I agree. It’s all just a little too slick, a tad contrived, and more than just a little cliche’.

I think it’s because the originals were hand drawn and human created decades before everyone had the same Microsoft software at every desk.

All of this stuff seems to be handled by 28 year old Imagineers who do EVERYTHING on a computer and do nothing by hand or freeform. The result is that it all looks like it came from the same Millenial generation and the same Art School digital portfolio, all ready for the 100 Million member Instagram community of poseurs.

Rally Crump and his like are obviously long gone, and their style of art is no longer welcomed and no longer recognized by algorithms and the Millenials that worship them.
 
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TP2000

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Straight chilling at the Hideaway right now. Bloggers and YouTubers are out here in full force. Taking pics/vids of everything. There’s even old pin trader dudes here hanging out.

Can you take any pictures of the Bloggers and YouTube Lifestylers all trying to outdo each other???

There’s nothing funnier than a neck beard Blogger and his suspiciously made up lady companion screeching into an iPhone X held out at arms length and trying to be as PERKY and EXCITED as humanly possible about a new theme park snack bar!
 

mickEblu

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I think the trap that modern imagineering often falls into has a bit to do with overreliance on self reference. It's fun that we can see the bird houses for the stars of the tiki room. It's also interesting how many allusions to Disney characters that they were able to put together for the paddles. Then, on the wall you have script referring to Aladdin, as a tribute to what was there before. Arguably the most interesting addition, Rosita, is the punch line to a half century old joke.

Imagineers have created layers of subtle backstory within the Tropical Hideaway. Many are clever and will definitely elicit a smile and some conversation. However, as varied as these references seem, they really point to only one thing: Disney. The imagineers of yesteryear did much the same thing, but their references hinted at real world or even fictional things that most people had a basic knowledge of. They kept one foot on the ground and the other in the zeitgeist. The thread of connection being woven linked fantasy and reality in a bite sized way, and when guests got a taste of this it suggested they were in a world that went beyond the boundaries of that land.

When everything connects to Disney within two degrees of separation, you eventually orient yourself within that context. The information I'm seeing tells me that I am in a Disney park, not some far off place. A reference here and there is clever, but I don't want to see a Mickey hat, Aladdin's lamp, and a Goofy doll in Star Tours luggage. I need to say that I like the look of Tropical Hideaway and I think it's a decided improvement to Adventureland. However, if it feels a bit different from the rest of the land, this is my guess why.

Very well said. We re not in a far off place at the Tropical hideaway. We re at Disney’s Adventureland.
 

Old Mouseketeer

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Attractions
Dr. A. Falls - Mbei River 1903 - Albert (Jungle Cruise/Skipper Cantina)
B.T. Bullion - Colorado River 1870 - Barnabus (MK Big Thunder) aka Tony Baxter
J. Chandler - Elaho River 1882 - Jason (Big Thunder) - comic book appearance/former SEA president
H. Mystic - Ganges River 1874 - Henry (Mystic Manor protagonist)
H. Hightower - Yangtze River 1872 - Harrison (TDS Tower of Terror) aka Joe Rohde
M. Oceaneer - Orinoco River 1899 - Mary (DCL, Mystic Manor and the Raft Ride at Typhoon Lagoon) aka Mary Blaire

Clear Proprietors
Chef Tandaji - Irrawady River 1913 - Single menu item at Skippers Canteen... given the 'chef' I'd just assume he's really going to be nothing more than the Skippers Canteen's 'guy'.
M.A. Pleasure - Kissimmee River 1900 - Merriweather Adam - Pleasure Island/Adventurers Club proprietor. I think the initials are also a shout out to the existence of pleasure island in Massachusetts and Kissimmee being Florida.

Hints?
Prof R. Blaurhimmel - Ucayali River 1904 - Blair Himmell, Aviator portrait appears in Mystic Manor - I previously suspected that he'll have a tie into Tokyo's Soaring Fantastic Flights
Dr. J.L. Baterista - Congo River 1906 - Explorer portrait features in Mystic Manor - no attraction
S. Shio - Amazon River 1910 - Sango, appears on the skipper canteen menu/listed on a Fez in the Skipper Canteen. A Japanese fansite mentions something about a coral show. I don't really know where this person fits.

New
C. Falco - Zambezi River 1831 - No association. River being that of Angel's Falls in Africa. Possible Blue Sky Animal Kingdom concept? We know the Shanghai boat tech was being bandied about.

Sorry, there is no nod to Indian Aramaki, the original chef of Tahitian Terrace, eventual Head Chef of Disneyland, and a Disney Legend. If there is no homage to him, then what's the point? It's even more important than a shout-out to Wally Boag (the voice of Jose' the host of Tiki Room).
 

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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According to an article on the LAist, the Dole Whip was introduced in 1986.
Oh wow. guess I just never came across it in all my years at Disneyland probably because no one would ever go with me on the TIKKI ROOM. had I gone on it, I probably would have discovered dole whips.
 

BrianLo

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Sorry, there is no nod to Indian Aramaki, the original chef of Tahitian Terrace, eventual Head Chef of Disneyland, and a Disney Legend. If there is no homage to him, then what's the point? It's even more important than a shout-out to Wally Boag (the voice of Jose' the host of Tiki Room).

Hmm? These are strictly S.E.A. characters. Not really meant to be a whose who of homages.

Very few real world people have weasled their way into that lore... pretty much just the super ‘celebrity’ imagineers and Danny elfman.
 

TP2000

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The place looks nice at night, especially on this unusually warm December evening with temps still in the 60's.



And then of course there's the typical SoCal YouTube Blogger Couple, with matching shirts and perkier-than-thou attitudes that they just have to share with the world.

 

TP2000

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Oh wow. guess I just never came across it in all my years at Disneyland probably because no one would ever go with me on the TIKKI ROOM. had I gone on it, I probably would have discovered dole whips.

It's always been one of my favorite rides, next time you're at Disneyland you really should go on it.
 

BasiltheBatLord

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Can you take any pictures of the Bloggers and YouTube Lifestylers all trying to outdo each other???

There’s nothing funnier than a neck beard Blogger and his suspiciously made up lady companion screeching into an iPhone X held out at arms length and trying to be as PERKY and EXCITED as humanly possible about a new theme park snack bar!
Earlier today I actually saw a line of YouTubers waiting their turn to film themselves talking in the Aladdin easter egg corner with their selfie stick-phone holder things.

Anyway, I liked the Hideaway. You can tell it’s gonna become a popping “hangout” spot. Food options on the menu were not my thing but I actually had my first ever Dole Whip there and it’s also cool how you can get fruit there. Rosita is whatever. When you’re there for a while, it’s nice to look over and see that she’s there (sort of like “the regular” at a bar or restaraunt that’s always there) but her dialogue is kind of awful, it’s 80% stupid jokes and puns. She doesn’t talk that often though.
 

Stevek

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The place looks nice at night, especially on this unusually warm December evening with temps still in the 60's.



And then of course there's the typical SoCal YouTube Blogger Couple, with matching shirts and perkier-than-thou attitudes that they just have to share with the world.



Looks fantastic at night...I could do without the extreme vlogger closeup with food falling out of his mouth though.

As far as the second couple, ugh.

I do really hope that the tables aren't just filled with people sitting around and somehow Disney polices it a bit and boots those that are loitering.
 

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