News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[Patcheslee]

What is the actual average interval between two visits for most non-Floridians? I know neither I nor my siblings nor my parents cared at all about whether or not new things were built between our visits. We were just ready to go back because it had been a few years. I'm not saying new things don't attract people or that they don't need new things to handle the ever worsening capacity issues, but most people aren't fretting about build speed unless construction is actively impeding movement through the park, as is currently the case with EPCOT.

We were a 2-3 year family. Granted we had planned 2021, but nixed that plan with hopes Epcot construction would be mostly completed. Opted for Uni that year because I wanted to be back in Florida. DD11 then asked about maybe a day at Epcot, but ticket cost vs construction at the time, it didn't seem worth it. Last visit was 2019, prior to GE opening. We'll return in mid 2023, at least with some new attractions.
But the older DD gets, the less we have to invest in vacations since school trips cut into savings too.

 

[ChrisFL]

The average WDW guest is never going to Shanghai and therefore does not care.

The average WDW guest probably doesn't even know there's a park in Shanghai or a TRON coaster at all before now

 

[J4546]

The average WDW guest is never going to Shanghai and therefore does not care.

For real. I love that tron got built in us so I can experience it cause otherwise...I would not. I hope they bring over some more of the cool stuff from Shanghai that I'll never experience as well like camp discovery

 

[Disney Analyst]

The average WDW guest probably doesn't even know there's a park in Shanghai or a TRON coaster at all before now

Yeah clones from the international parks is far less an issue for me.

Now domestic cloned rides… less of those.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Yeah clones from the international parks is far less an issue for me.

Now domestic cloned rides… less of those.

Oh I agree. They have some great rides overseas

 

[Disney Analyst]

Oh I agree. They have some great rides overseas

Mystic Manor in the US please

 

[Incomudro]

Yeah clones from the international parks is far less an issue for me.

Now domestic cloned rides… less of those.

Not only is it not an issue, we should have domestically at least what's available overseas.
Clones in the US don't bother me one bit either.
The whole point of WDW was to bring to the east coast what was on the west coast.

 

[GhostHost1000]

The problem to me is it takes 5 years for Disney to build an attraction they had already built once before, there’s nothing major in the works coming, and they prefer spending the least money possible they can so they replace existing rides instead which doesn’t help capacity problems and takes away funds that could be used to build something new

 

[TalkToEthan]

The average WDW guest is never going to Shanghai and therefore does not care.

Don't care because they don't know about it. Just a lack of exposure

Disney looking to dazzle the ignorant park goers as if it is
effectively pulling out a lighter and showing instant fire to a tribe deep and secluded in the Amazon Basin who hasn't harnessed it yet.

 

[James Alucobond]

Don't care because they don't know about it. Just a lack of exposure

Disney is effectively pulling out a lighter and showing instant fire to a tribe deep and secluded in the Amazon Basin who hasn't harnessed it yet.

I don't think they'd care whether they knew or not. 95%+ of people going to Disney World will probably never go to Shanghai, so it might as well not exist for them. I don't think less of a restaurant that opens a new location in my town just because it already exists in another state; it coming here means I get to try it myself.

 

[J4546]

Tron will be a huge hit Regardless how long It took to build or that it's a copy, the vast majority of people going to the parks will love it.

I think that bothers some people on here lol

 

[Centauri Space Station]

Agreed but the average guest knows it takes forever for wdw to build anything new and nothing new is really coming

They have had a major attraction open every year since 2016 and will continue through 24

 

[BrianLo]

I actually think Super Nintendo World at Epic Universe is the worse offender.

Took 10 years to build from its technical announcement and nonsensically clones the site size restrictions of Tokyo in their new-fangled (white paper) park. But is forgiven because of the much more original other 4/5th of that park.

 

[Skibum1970]

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They have had a major attraction open every year since 2016 and will continue through 24

One thing I notice on Disney's timeline is the Frozen is basically a reskinning with some changes, MMRR reused an existing building, and Toy Story Land was really adding a coaster with minimal theming and a spinning ride.

On UNI's side, Bourne and Fallon used existing buildings and so will minions. I think that 2024 might be the rethemed KidZone although I could end up being way off. I'm not sure how much that they are doing.

One other key difference is the length of time to build Disney's rides to Universal's. I think that UNI tends to be 2-3 years whereas Disney is running in the 4-5 year build times. Part of that could be UNI's reliance on screens as opposed to full sets (ex. Kong which has some physical sets but mainly screens for the action sections) on some of their rides. For myself, the 4-5 year build times is what is excruciating when Disney starts building something. It is difficult to be patient knowing that.

 

[GhostHost1000]

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They have had a major attraction open every year since 2016 and will continue through 24

Tron is a copy and took 5 years and Tiana isn’t a build, it’s mainly a reskin

 

[GhostHost1000]

One thing I notice on Disney's timeline is the Frozen is basically a reskinning with some changes, MMRR reused an existing building, and Toy Story Land was really adding a coaster with minimal theming and a spinning ride.

On UNI's side, Bourne and Fallon used existing buildings and so will minions. I think that 2024 might be the rethemed KidZone although I could end up being way off. I'm not sure how much that they are doing.

One other key difference is the length of time to build Disney's rides to Universal's. I think that UNI tends to be 2-3 years whereas Disney is running in the 4-5 year build times. Part of that could be UNI's reliance on screens as opposed to full sets (ex. Kong which has some physical sets but mainly screens for the action sections) on some of their rides. For myself, the 4-5 year build times is what is excruciating when Disney starts building something. It is difficult to be patient knowing that.

Bingo

Uni is gonna build an entirely new theme park in about the time it takes for Disney to build 1 attraction now

Disney’s costs to build anything are extremely out of hand as well

 

[Touchdown]

I actually think Super Nintendo World at Epic Universe is the worse offender.

Took 10 years to build from its technical announcement and nonsensically clones the site size restrictions of Tokyo in their new-fangled (white paper) park. But is forgiven because of the much more original other 4/5th of that park.

But it’s not, it’s going to have an additional ride/section (DK mine cart coaster.)

 

[Goofyernmost]

One thing I notice on Disney's timeline is the Frozen is basically a reskinning with some changes, MMRR reused an existing building, and Toy Story Land was really adding a coaster with minimal theming and a spinning ride.

On UNI's side, Bourne and Fallon used existing buildings and so will minions. I think that 2024 might be the rethemed KidZone although I could end up being way off. I'm not sure how much that they are doing.

One other key difference is the length of time to build Disney's rides to Universal's. I think that UNI tends to be 2-3 years whereas Disney is running in the 4-5 year build times. Part of that could be UNI's reliance on screens as opposed to full sets (ex. Kong which has some physical sets but mainly screens for the action sections) on some of their rides. For myself, the 4-5 year build times is what is excruciating when Disney starts building something. It is difficult to be patient knowing that.

One thing to remember is that those times are the time between announcing it and opening it. Disney says early on, sometimes before the engineering has been worked out. Uni waits until they are actually starting construction before they announce an addition. The actual building time is probably the same. A lot of the time it has taken for Tron has been pandemic shutdown time (about a year, at least I would think)

 

[lazyboy97o]

But it’s not, it’s going to have an additional ride/section (DK mine cart coaster.)

That portion is under construction in Japan right now. Pre-pandemic it was supposed to open at Epic Universe first, but now it’ll likely open in Japan first.

 

[doctornick]

Not only is it not an issue, we should have domestically at least what's available overseas.
Clones in the US don't bother me one bit either.
The whole point of WDW was to bring to the east coast what was on the west coast.

Well, I think it’s nice for DLR and WDW to have some distinct attractions but duplicates of most main ones is fine. It is nice when the parks have some small differences between “clones” though to give them some uniqueness.

That said, I totally agree that they should actively be cloning stuff from the international parks to the US ones. There’s such small overlap between people who visit the international vs domestic parks that it should be irrelevant to the thought process of ride development. More specifically, I personally think it would make a lot of sense to tend to clone between DLR and DLP (given that WDW gets a lot of European travelers but less so in Cali) and the Asian parks would be good options to clone in WDW (which also works since WDW has more places to put stuff). Mystic Manor, Shanghai Pirates, Tokyo BatB - bring ‘em to Florida I say.